A lot of it is buried history at this point. Apple's followers don't really want to know that Apple's legal muscle drove Microsoft's competitors out of the PC market, and facilitated the Windows GUI monopoly.
Sure it does, it accomplishes quite a lot, in fact. When people who regularly interact use certain words to mean certain things, to use as verbal shortcuts, it can enhance their communication. An outsider may find that confusing, but that's irrelevant...
It sounds like you're engaging in a circle-the-wagons we're-better-than-them form of elitism. "Don't you DARE use our jargon the way the mainstream uses it, right HERE in our private space!"
Yes. We know, and we understand the different meanings of the term. And you can try to drive people who are not 'true believers' out of the forum for offending your sense of pride in how you feel the term should be used. Ultimately you're just spinning your wheels, though.
I agree with much of your sentiment, however, you're still dancing around with the subculture's jargon meaning of the term, and the general populace and MSM will not understand.
In the larger scope, we have to accept that our jargon is not mainstream. Some of us even find that refreshing. But it's a waste of time to rant about the differences here in our own forums.
This notion the the laws are somehow sacrosanct is a decadent Western invention.
Thank you, thank you. Clearly nothing you say in the future is going to fucking matter at all on any topic.
The laws aren't sacrosanct, and apparently you've thrown in the towel on the issue.
So which Party do you belong to? Is your particular gang of thugs in charge of a reasonably comfortable portion of the city you live in? Are you doing well, then?
Yes. In Russia you have an entire culture of the servile whipped dog government-client mentality that the Obama and the liberals in the US can only dream of and strive to duplicate.
In what way does Apple not follow the same software model?
Where do I download my copy of MacOS 10? Is it an Apple server, or just an Apple-sponsored server?
I will face no legal challenge if I go to the the downtown and hand out burned DVDs of Apple's entire suite of MacOS applications for free to the students, repeatedly? I might even throw in a nice printed copy of instructions of how to install it on a Hacintosh.
Apple is no different that Microsoft, except they have a longer history of running companies out of business through direct frontal legal assault. They wiped out all of the MS Windows competitors (GEM, GEOS, etc.) in the period of time when Windows was becoming dominant on the PC with their legal muscle.
An orchestra is a whole group of skilled musicians who listen to each other as they perform, and to a degree 'riff' off of each other. The kind of AI that would be required for a digital instrument (actually a whole rack of computers each controlling a digital instrument with AI, sensing of the other computers' output, etc.) just isn't there. And there's no sense in it. Blah-blah background muzak is very easily accomplished with human-free methods. Just like you can program a big bunch of stepper motors to pull levers and arms to 'paint art.'
You are probably talking about MIDI performances that are actually live recordings of pianists playing the works on high quality MIDI keyboards that feature aftertouch and all the enhanced features and effects that MIDI can record. I doubt if it's MIDI files that Dopey Joe coded in using a mouse and a Piano-roll MIDI editor.
For the kind of musicians who you can hire to play all of Beethoven's symphonies for a total (for all orchestra members) of $13,000 (or $20,000, or $50,000) I think I would take the synthesizers.
I used to have a complete boxed set of Beethoven symphonies put out by some cut-rate Japanese distributor. I think the whole set was about $7. There were several prominent oboe squawks in the first movement of the Third Symphony. And don't get me started on what cheap Japanese singers sound like singing the Ode To Joy in the Ninth Symphony in German, with Japanese accents.
No, this will be another cut-out bin grade recording. Nothing to see here. Move on, now.
No, if the government saved kittens, there would be a massive overpopulation of kittens. Children in public schools would be required to take one home and care for it. Michelle Obama would do TV specials about the plight of the overcrowded, malnourished kittens, and we'd all be sick of cats.
The government keeps your energy prices artificially low. I think that gives them the right to make sure you're not pissing away energy. Or would you rather electricity was five times the current price?
Yes, the government is interfering in the economy. Clearly, that gives them the right to interfere even more.
The GP is fantasizing that he's a 'rebel' and that to be safe from the Storm Troopers he needs to only use the garage sale copy of WordPerfect on a machine down in his basement in a Faraday cage. You know, a typical Slashdot Revolutionaire.
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A lot of it is buried history at this point. Apple's followers don't really want to know that Apple's legal muscle drove Microsoft's competitors out of the PC market, and facilitated the Windows GUI monopoly.
What's Gibson trying to sell us this time?
I never bought Spinrite, though I knew people who ranted and raved about it back in the late 80's.
Sure it does, it accomplishes quite a lot, in fact. When people who regularly interact use certain words to mean certain things, to use as verbal shortcuts, it can enhance their communication. An outsider may find that confusing, but that's irrelevant ...
It sounds like you're engaging in a circle-the-wagons we're-better-than-them form of elitism. "Don't you DARE use our jargon the way the mainstream uses it, right HERE in our private space!"
Yes. We know, and we understand the different meanings of the term. And you can try to drive people who are not 'true believers' out of the forum for offending your sense of pride in how you feel the term should be used. Ultimately you're just spinning your wheels, though.
I agree with much of your sentiment, however, you're still dancing around with the subculture's jargon meaning of the term, and the general populace and MSM will not understand.
In the larger scope, we have to accept that our jargon is not mainstream. Some of us even find that refreshing. But it's a waste of time to rant about the differences here in our own forums.
This isn't a black hat forum. People who help the police track down and capture criminals are not 'dickheads.'
How can your average be below average?
Quit asking stupid questions. Besides, the Teachers Unions act in ALL OF OUR INTERESTS.
Now, let's sing 'Solidarity Forever,' and keep those pickets moving, folks. You don't have tenure because of anything to do with merit!
Can you provide a link to Chairman Mao's Theory of Three Worlds?
I'll do it for you: Here you go.
I bet the ugly chick on campus who hands out those leaflets wouldn't do that for you.
This notion the the laws are somehow sacrosanct is a decadent Western invention.
Thank you, thank you. Clearly nothing you say in the future is going to fucking matter at all on any topic.
The laws aren't sacrosanct, and apparently you've thrown in the towel on the issue.
So which Party do you belong to? Is your particular gang of thugs in charge of a reasonably comfortable portion of the city you live in? Are you doing well, then?
What a fucking cynic.
Yes. In Russia you have an entire culture of the servile whipped dog government-client mentality that the Obama and the liberals in the US can only dream of and strive to duplicate.
In what way does Apple not follow the same software model?
Where do I download my copy of MacOS 10? Is it an Apple server, or just an Apple-sponsored server?
I will face no legal challenge if I go to the the downtown and hand out burned DVDs of Apple's entire suite of MacOS applications for free to the students, repeatedly? I might even throw in a nice printed copy of instructions of how to install it on a Hacintosh.
Apple is no different that Microsoft, except they have a longer history of running companies out of business through direct frontal legal assault. They wiped out all of the MS Windows competitors (GEM, GEOS, etc.) in the period of time when Windows was becoming dominant on the PC with their legal muscle.
Thankfully I've not been arrested yet, but so far I've never been stopped with my laptop in my possession.
I wonder if you, or anybody, can cite a reasonable number of instances where random people in the West have been stopped and their laptops inspected.
It might be fun to fantasize that you're a 'fugitive' here in the 'belly of the beast.' But it's your fantasy.
An orchestra is a whole group of skilled musicians who listen to each other as they perform, and to a degree 'riff' off of each other. The kind of AI that would be required for a digital instrument (actually a whole rack of computers each controlling a digital instrument with AI, sensing of the other computers' output, etc.) just isn't there. And there's no sense in it. Blah-blah background muzak is very easily accomplished with human-free methods. Just like you can program a big bunch of stepper motors to pull levers and arms to 'paint art.'
You are probably talking about MIDI performances that are actually live recordings of pianists playing the works on high quality MIDI keyboards that feature aftertouch and all the enhanced features and effects that MIDI can record. I doubt if it's MIDI files that Dopey Joe coded in using a mouse and a Piano-roll MIDI editor.
For the kind of musicians who you can hire to play all of Beethoven's symphonies for a total (for all orchestra members) of $13,000 (or $20,000, or $50,000) I think I would take the synthesizers.
I used to have a complete boxed set of Beethoven symphonies put out by some cut-rate Japanese distributor. I think the whole set was about $7. There were several prominent oboe squawks in the first movement of the Third Symphony. And don't get me started on what cheap Japanese singers sound like singing the Ode To Joy in the Ninth Symphony in German, with Japanese accents.
No, this will be another cut-out bin grade recording. Nothing to see here. Move on, now.
Yes. Beethoven's symphonies are 'songs.'
Thank you, popular culture.
Last time I looked, it was Fascist governments that stack the deck in favor of certain industrial interests over others.
And no, I'm not using the dirty hippie definition of Fascism.
Lick the boot of the Dear Leader, dude.
Actually, it's then your job to stop the government.
Hopefully when you throw the wrench in the works, the scattering pieces when it fragments will kill a few hundred bureaucrats.
No, if the government saved kittens, there would be a massive overpopulation of kittens. Children in public schools would be required to take one home and care for it. Michelle Obama would do TV specials about the plight of the overcrowded, malnourished kittens, and we'd all be sick of cats.
The government keeps your energy prices artificially low. I think that gives them the right to make sure you're not pissing away energy. Or would you rather electricity was five times the current price?
Yes, the government is interfering in the economy. Clearly, that gives them the right to interfere even more.
Where do they find people like you?
Coddled-brat-syndrome will never be solved medically.
A $35/hour technician.
The GP is fantasizing that he's a 'rebel' and that to be safe from the Storm Troopers he needs to only use the garage sale copy of WordPerfect on a machine down in his basement in a Faraday cage. You know, a typical Slashdot Revolutionaire.
Your references to 'we' and 'us' would be more powerful if this wasn't just the usual rage fest on Slashdot.
From what I hear, a group of feminist activists should be the ones to neuter him.