I'm a RHEL3 AS Customer on about 5 servers (need to run oracle in a 'certified' environment.
RHEL4 has come out, and guess what, they 'recommentd' you re-install, you can upgrade, but it will probably break so re-install and be happy.
WTF!!!, Hey those thousands of dollars you get paid for support should go towards engineers managing things like config file changes (even if its just a these apps have changed configs, your changes have been migrated but please check).
We run Oracle 10g RAC, how in a live production environment am I meant to re-install RHEL4 and then RAC and everything else we run.
It's an absolute joke (Hint to redhat that 'ENTERPRISE' word in the product means you take care of issues like this).
Makes me nostaligic for the days of AIX 4.1 to 4.3.3 upgrades where stuff just worked.
Two reasons, the onion ring effect and forenisics.
The onion ring effect is simply where does the fault lie, your code the next API, the one that calls, the one after that, perhaps bad hardware, bad memory, dirty power, the list is endless.
Also the transient nature of the problem, code blows up, transactions are lost, business must go on, server is booted.
Compare this to a bridge collapse. Plenty of time for forensics
a) Pillar has moved in sediment that the geologists said was bedrock sue them.
b) Steel Girder has fractured, sue the steel mill.
c) 20 Tonne truck has gone over 10 Tonne Bridge, sue driver who ignored max load signs.
The number of permutations and transient nature of a software crash make absolute accountability very difficult.
But some sort of licencing as to you level of competence might be nice, be good to see some of these vb code jockeys actually learn about error handling etc.
It is actually contestable if the Wright Brothers were the first people to achieve flight, A New Zealander by the name of Richard Pierce is tipped to have beaten them to the punch.
Depends which aviation historian you talk to as too whome they will suggest to you was the first.
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Not up the spiral staircase the parent just built, thats for sure.
I'm a RHEL3 AS Customer on about 5 servers (need to run oracle in a 'certified' environment.
RHEL4 has come out, and guess what, they 'recommentd' you re-install, you can upgrade, but it will probably break so re-install and be happy.
WTF!!!, Hey those thousands of dollars you get paid for support should go towards engineers managing things like config file changes (even if its just a these apps have changed configs, your changes have been migrated but please check).
We run Oracle 10g RAC, how in a live production environment am I meant to re-install RHEL4 and then RAC and everything else we run.
It's an absolute joke (Hint to redhat that 'ENTERPRISE' word in the product means you take care of issues like this).
Makes me nostaligic for the days of AIX 4.1 to 4.3.3 upgrades where stuff just worked.
Majorly pissed!!!
Two reasons, the onion ring effect and forenisics.
The onion ring effect is simply where does the fault lie, your code the next API, the one that calls, the one after that, perhaps bad hardware, bad memory, dirty power, the list is endless.
Also the transient nature of the problem, code blows up, transactions are lost, business must go on, server is booted.
Compare this to a bridge collapse. Plenty of time for forensics
a) Pillar has moved in sediment that the geologists said was bedrock sue them.
b) Steel Girder has fractured, sue the steel mill.
c) 20 Tonne truck has gone over 10 Tonne Bridge, sue driver who ignored max load signs.
The number of permutations and transient nature of a software crash make absolute accountability very difficult.
But some sort of licencing as to you level of competence might be nice, be good to see some of these vb code jockeys actually learn about error handling etc.
It is actually contestable if the Wright Brothers were the first people to achieve flight, A New Zealander by the name of Richard Pierce is tipped to have beaten them to the punch.
Depends which aviation historian you talk to as too whome they will suggest to you was the first.
I'm a Kiwi so I kinda hope in was Pierce.
Regards, Roger