Sounds like the visual studio express editions, though I am not complaining, visual studio express sukz ass compared to the professional especially for c++.
Actually, If you read on the microsoft forums, Paul isn't the most loved guy around. Though I actually believe this WGA shit is a company's right to implement, I don't see the big deal behind it. Though, I also don't have a problem with wire taps and etc. because you surrend certain rights as you subscribe to certain communities, whether softwares or government. In all cases though, we question the worth of that cost, in microsoft's case if you think the cost is too high, go to linux or apple. Since, microsoft provides all the softwares I need, from easy xvid to visual studio, though I own an intel mac solely for the purpose of doing linux programming (ironic) and terminal service.
SERIOUSLY! CS Department = Study problems in Computer Science such as Systems (ie. operating system design, language implementation design, networking, etc.), AI (machine learning algorithms, gaming AI), or theory (Computational Complexity). Decided what kind of webserver the school uses has no role what so ever. However, i would be so happy if our school acquired this program, current email server SUCKSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS.
I don't agree with the fact that linux is better for software development, for instance i haven't found one really good IDE that ties things together as much as visual studio, KDE does not compare at all. Additionally, most softwares you develop CAN be interpolated to linux with the exception of windowing, which you might consider to be a big deal, but for a class library development point of view it is not.
I think this is a great idea, and all government document should be viewed as this. First, this is not exactly targeting OSS people that design software. We need more projects like this to harness the energies out there. Yes, an universal language is not a bad idea but I don't think you can get everyone to abid by it. Second, even if your a Bush hater, there is no reason not to love your country. Politics is politics, but translating document hardly seems like a partisan view.
1. heard about the longhorn restart? lol, this has been long predicted
2. a lot of windows applications are being developed in.net
3. mono = linux implementation of.net that came AFTER.net was developed (though pretty well done)
4. people will eventually have c# notepad, it is only a matter of time
5. singularity, singularity, singularity, its actually quite interesting in concept; However, in practice it is something extremely different.
6. in practice certain components of managed, can be compiled down to native with special experimental compilers (was talking to some guy that was working on singularity about this earlier)
7. yes, no one in their right mind write the quickest and slickest code in managed, but it is (in my preference the easiest to naturally understand)
8. i probably would never go back to native for any of my research projects, for the sole reason that it is easier to think about the problem rather at the efficiency for example it is easier to think about webservices, objects, delegate than cgi, structures with functions, and function pointers (even though they are virtually the same thing respectively)
9. actually if you guys haven't realized a good amount of new softwares (as quoted above) have been done in dot net, the most common example that anyone can view is their website.
10. I am completely disappointed in they way they are running most of their projects (especially some of their live projects) SIGH.... live messenger beta was much better before the stupid update lol.
This product on the surface seems like more like a step back than step forward in terms of being easy to use. I agree with many of the problems people are concerned about and it will have to be watched for the next few month. I have long been a microsoft fan and like many of their products from vs.net to office 12 and vista (though still disappointed) and I do think I have a high bias against linux mainly because development is slower due to linux IDE issues. Nevertheless, I can't help to express how big of a disappointment this was flash is good but it all depends on the way you do it, if you can't do it correctly then stick with html or css. Furthermore, I have problems focusing on some of the research results, probably due to a conflict in color choice of GUI design or just me. However, the scripting looks familiar to the html/javascript behind the scenes of a variation of aspx, so I don't think they are really using ajax. Lastly, I am not sure how likely I am to customly design my home page, seems like a lot of extra stuff that I don't need. Whatever, they will do what they want to do, as long as their c# and.net frameworks are good I will continue programming in c#.
I don't believe having a wizard is a bad idea, for instance in visual c# or basic.net all you use the wizard for is GUI. This basically means the ability to skip the non-programming portions of coding small and simple projects. Granted, doing so you basically encourage the development of library black box programmers, this might not be good for open source but is very effective for industry. Additionally, IDE like visual studio 2005 offers an easy way to see what your doing wrong and understand what you need to do instead. The dynamic help offers valuable code examples and helpful resources that I believe is essential for beginners. HOWEVER, I don't think newer programmers will even notice the difference between c# and vb.net. The differences is mainly with coding preference and your ability to put ";" at the end of line. In that respect, I think learning c# instead would be a better idea cause it teaches you that in most languages you need some sort of end of line character. Nevertheless, using c# or vb.net as a gateway language will only be useful for users wishing to learn object oriented programming, I guess a little bit of perl, python, and a variety of smaller language if you push the ideas a little.
This message is misleading, I was prompted to remove norton when I installed one care. They state this is a performance problems, which I can agree with, having two virus protection suites does take a lot of performance out of the computer.
Actually i don't know guys, i used elipse a couple of times to teaching my labs, and it wasn't very good. Yes, vs is a lot of drag and drop, yes it has a lot of stupid features that beginners doesn't need, but man it is useful when you need it. I think this relates to the gimp vs. photoshop argument, the accessibility is a problem for elipse
Who would admit to downloading music illegally? I think the statistical figures would be much higher taking that into account. Additionally, compared to MP3 players, the study only suggest that ipoid is less prevalent than other MP3 papers. Lastly, 1/4 is still a pretty big figure, though not as big as microsoft would like to claim.
I think it isn't a matter of how likely, but rather is how complete is mono. Last time i used mono, about a year ago, after 2 days i gave up. Why might i give up on mono? UDPClient did not have a DataAvaliable property. GUYS this is basic, if i don't know how much data is avaliable, how am i going to use it.
Plus, this is good news for microsoft, sell office to linux users and mac users.
~Shan
I think microsoft is going to care less and less about windows xp and 2000. I hope singularity and their other research OS does well at least, cause those are the interesting ones. WINDOWS IS CRAP, especially if you like to tweek your computers!
~Shan
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Sounds like the visual studio express editions, though I am not complaining, visual studio express sukz ass compared to the professional especially for c++.
Actually, If you read on the microsoft forums, Paul isn't the most loved guy around. Though I actually believe this WGA shit is a company's right to implement, I don't see the big deal behind it. Though, I also don't have a problem with wire taps and etc. because you surrend certain rights as you subscribe to certain communities, whether softwares or government. In all cases though, we question the worth of that cost, in microsoft's case if you think the cost is too high, go to linux or apple. Since, microsoft provides all the softwares I need, from easy xvid to visual studio, though I own an intel mac solely for the purpose of doing linux programming (ironic) and terminal service.
SERIOUSLY! CS Department = Study problems in Computer Science such as Systems (ie. operating system design, language implementation design, networking, etc.), AI (machine learning algorithms, gaming AI), or theory (Computational Complexity). Decided what kind of webserver the school uses has no role what so ever. However, i would be so happy if our school acquired this program, current email server SUCKSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS.
When I go watch (korean) music videos or INTERNATIONAL NEWs (ie. written by news company in different country)
I don't agree with the fact that linux is better for software development, for instance i haven't found one really good IDE that ties things together as much as visual studio, KDE does not compare at all. Additionally, most softwares you develop CAN be interpolated to linux with the exception of windowing, which you might consider to be a big deal, but for a class library development point of view it is not.
I think this is a great idea, and all government document should be viewed as this. First, this is not exactly targeting OSS people that design software. We need more projects like this to harness the energies out there. Yes, an universal language is not a bad idea but I don't think you can get everyone to abid by it. Second, even if your a Bush hater, there is no reason not to love your country. Politics is politics, but translating document hardly seems like a partisan view.
1. heard about the longhorn restart? lol, this has been long predicted 2. a lot of windows applications are being developed in .net
3. mono = linux implementation of .net that came AFTER .net was developed (though pretty well done)
4. people will eventually have c# notepad, it is only a matter of time
5. singularity, singularity, singularity, its actually quite interesting in concept; However, in practice it is something extremely different.
6. in practice certain components of managed, can be compiled down to native with special experimental compilers (was talking to some guy that was working on singularity about this earlier)
7. yes, no one in their right mind write the quickest and slickest code in managed, but it is (in my preference the easiest to naturally understand)
8. i probably would never go back to native for any of my research projects, for the sole reason that it is easier to think about the problem rather at the efficiency for example it is easier to think about webservices, objects, delegate than cgi, structures with functions, and function pointers (even though they are virtually the same thing respectively)
9. actually if you guys haven't realized a good amount of new softwares (as quoted above) have been done in dot net, the most common example that anyone can view is their website.
10. I am completely disappointed in they way they are running most of their projects (especially some of their live projects) SIGH.... live messenger beta was much better before the stupid update lol.
This product on the surface seems like more like a step back than step forward in terms of being easy to use. I agree with many of the problems people are concerned about and it will have to be watched for the next few month. I have long been a microsoft fan and like many of their products from vs .net to office 12 and vista (though still disappointed) and I do think I have a high bias against linux mainly because development is slower due to linux IDE issues. Nevertheless, I can't help to express how big of a disappointment this was flash is good but it all depends on the way you do it, if you can't do it correctly then stick with html or css. Furthermore, I have problems focusing on some of the research results, probably due to a conflict in color choice of GUI design or just me. However, the scripting looks familiar to the html/javascript behind the scenes of a variation of aspx, so I don't think they are really using ajax. Lastly, I am not sure how likely I am to customly design my home page, seems like a lot of extra stuff that I don't need. Whatever, they will do what they want to do, as long as their c# and .net frameworks are good I will continue programming in c#.
I don't believe having a wizard is a bad idea, for instance in visual c# or basic .net all you use the wizard for is GUI. This basically means the ability to skip the non-programming portions of coding small and simple projects. Granted, doing so you basically encourage the development of library black box programmers, this might not be good for open source but is very effective for industry. Additionally, IDE like visual studio 2005 offers an easy way to see what your doing wrong and understand what you need to do instead. The dynamic help offers valuable code examples and helpful resources that I believe is essential for beginners. HOWEVER, I don't think newer programmers will even notice the difference between c# and vb .net. The differences is mainly with coding preference and your ability to put ";" at the end of line. In that respect, I think learning c# instead would be a better idea cause it teaches you that in most languages you need some sort of end of line character. Nevertheless, using c# or vb.net as a gateway language will only be useful for users wishing to learn object oriented programming, I guess a little bit of perl, python, and a variety of smaller language if you push the ideas a little.
This message is misleading, I was prompted to remove norton when I installed one care. They state this is a performance problems, which I can agree with, having two virus protection suites does take a lot of performance out of the computer.
Actually i don't know guys, i used elipse a couple of times to teaching my labs, and it wasn't very good. Yes, vs is a lot of drag and drop, yes it has a lot of stupid features that beginners doesn't need, but man it is useful when you need it. I think this relates to the gimp vs. photoshop argument, the accessibility is a problem for elipse
Yes for people stupid enough to do rm -r there is no way to recover, and there are plenty of stupid user out there.
Who would admit to downloading music illegally? I think the statistical figures would be much higher taking that into account. Additionally, compared to MP3 players, the study only suggest that ipoid is less prevalent than other MP3 papers. Lastly, 1/4 is still a pretty big figure, though not as big as microsoft would like to claim.
~Shan
I think it isn't a matter of how likely, but rather is how complete is mono. Last time i used mono, about a year ago, after 2 days i gave up. Why might i give up on mono? UDPClient did not have a DataAvaliable property. GUYS this is basic, if i don't know how much data is avaliable, how am i going to use it. Plus, this is good news for microsoft, sell office to linux users and mac users. ~Shan
I hope he doesn't fail me next semester ~Shan
I think microsoft is going to care less and less about windows xp and 2000. I hope singularity and their other research OS does well at least, cause those are the interesting ones. WINDOWS IS CRAP, especially if you like to tweek your computers! ~Shan