i believe the original claims was that there was Collusion which implies conspiracy. The white house denied any collusion. and definitely said investigations into such were a waste of time and should be shut down. Are you old enough to remember the whitewater fishing expedition into hillary fraud even in the 90s? The dems made the exact same statements then, (vast right wing conspiracy) and nobody screamed obstruction of justice. After all that investigation we got purgery about a blue dress and inappropriate sexual conduct with a subordinate to which consent legally cannot be established due to the nature of the working relationship.
your points aren't too far off from accurate but the revisionist bit about mere interference as a redressing of the very load claims that trump worked with the russians to hack and steal an election. We knew trump would deny russian meddling, the same way he wigged out over the claims of the size of inauguration. Its not cover-up, its narcissism. But she's just as narcissistic so it was lose-lose there all the way around.
hmm thats a pretty good point, if foreigners are not supposed to get involved, then technically it would be lawful to have ICE at their rallies to check citizenship.
so your saying the efforts to derail the investigation into uranium one or the campaign financed Steel Dossier which was later used to mislead a FISA judge are being done by non-patriotic americans then. Glad that was clarified.
you do realize that our CIA has been doing this shit since the Shaw of Iran's rule right? You act like this is all new and unprecedented.... it in fact has been going on for a very long time. We do it. They do it.
such as knowingly sending confidential material over the public internet as unecrypted SMTP transmissions? Never going to happen, because then they would have to throw their little darling into jail next to him. We all know that wont happen, too many people die from accidental muggings and suicides that ever cross her the wrong way.
yea I pointed that out before... I said "Let me get this straight, I am to believe that Internet Research Group spent $150k on ads and manage to swing the election. Yet Killary spent hundreds of MILLIONS in advertising and lost. So you are basically telling me she is 100% unfit to be president because she would be spending MILLIONS in OUR tax dollars when mere THOUSANDS would have gotten the job done just as well, if not better?"
nope... the 10 amendments appear in an order for a reason. you cant have a 1st amendment and keep the government out unless they have a 2nd amendment to deal with them if they refuse to stay out of the 1st... they all reinforce themselves in some manner. What stops government for forcing you to stable soldiers like the sheriffs brother-in-law?? the fact he might wake up dead if he pulled some shit like trying to sleep in your house. I lost all faith in the printed media when we learned, not even debatable regardless if it was russian hacking, they conspired with the clinton campaign to rig the democratic primary election. Thats when I wanted to burn them all to the ground. This isnt propganda, they didnt fucking deny it, they are just pissed that some russians hacked his [podestas] email (his goddamn password was revealed via click-bate) and now we know how every american was disenfranchised.
i think the overdose numbers are more scary than suicide, or are we counting them as suicide now? We lose more to suicide than car accidents, heart attacks, and homicides (all kinds) combined.
its amazing how many millions of dollars HRC spent on advertizing and yet $150k in facebook ads elected trump. If you could EVER make a case that Killary was NEVER qualified to be president, you just did. Why elect some bitter turd who would spend hundreds of millions of YOUR tax dollars on shit that could be done for just $150 THOUSAND???? Totally not qualified if anything you say is even remotely true.
yes it does, see United States vs Miller 1938. IT clearly does state that. If you dont want me having them, see to it that my police and government also do not have them. its about balance of power. The SCOTUS said in that case that the purpose of the 2nd amendment was to ensure that the people had access to the same weapons as 'the military of the day'. And because mr miller had a sawed-off shotgun, something the military did NOT use, allegedly, his 2nd amendment was not violated. Lets be clear, I dont think i should have nukes, but I also dont think my government should have them either. They are never supposed to have more power than the people. THAT was the point. IF you want me to only have flintlocks and revolvers, disarm the police like they did in england.
finally someone else who understands that we are all the militia whether we like it or not. and someone who gets there was to be no standing army. why the hell did you post AC?
only if the police and military are also restricted to flintlock rifles. See the SCOTUS decision of United States vs Miller. 2nd amendment gets us the same tools the military of the day uses.
not if you accept the SCOTUS decision in 1938, United States vs Miller. They concluded that the 2nd amendment gives 'the people' to own the same weapons as the 'military of the day', and because miller had a sawed off shotgun instead of an automatic machine gun, he was still in violation of the 1938 national firearms act. So you can interpret that to mean that because the military has stinger missiles, I should be able to buy them too. Im not advocating that, but thats the last interpretation on the subject.
no, he tried to say this was a right wing nazi militia dude... its the whole undertones of trying to tie it back to a particular group. It turned out to be fake news that he was in that white supremist group. I wanted to point out that before someone jump to some right-wing-gun-toting conclusion, this county is overwhelmingly democrat. The chances of him being a right wing nut are not good so best not go there. The point is the dude was off his rocker, just like the columbine kids. BTW he was 19, so you might want to catch up here. He was old enough to vote and was old enough to buy his rifle nearly a year ago. His dad died a few years ago and he just lost his mom to pneumonia. He picked VALENTINES day for a very specific reason. We dont yet know why, but rest asured it was significant. He got expelled a while ago and it wasnt on valentines day. It _could_ be that his ex-girlfriend had a new boyfriend that ended up beating him up (maybe he had it coming) but that is still to be determined. My point is "Gun Toting Pro-Trump" is about as unlikely as it will get in Broward County.
I am a 6yr veteran of the first gulf war. Yes i have used many of the same guns you are talking about. This guy WAS smart enough to build a bomb. For fucks sake there are uneducated jihadists in Iraq building IEDs every day and their education extends to addition, some multiplication, and fucking their sisters. He was smart enough to use a fire alarm.. where do kids congregate after a fire alarm is pulled... in a parking lot. So yes a truck would have been a very effective tool for mass murder.
i doubt the russian government would be labled pro gun. They have some strict gun laws. I think they are pretty pro-chaos. However, its not that they are super effective given their own devices, its that we let fucking assfucks like mark Zuckerfuck ruin society with their goddamn tools that our government thought was a great means of mass control. Unfortunately the russians figured out how to use it better than our government did. IF you want to stop russian tambering, start by storming Facebook and other social media and hang the executives in the street, and tear their server farms to the ground. Otherwise accept the mind control of the masses that the russians are doing a better job of manipulating.
not saying you are wrong, but shouldnt we start insisting our agencies stop doing the same fucking thing in other countries too? I get tired of hearing the left whine about this and pretend we dont have fucking blood on our hands. We get what we deserve, and if thats russian meddling, well we probably earned that honestly too.
untrue, liberals always target 'scary looking guns'. If they really gave a flying fuck about reducing numbers they would use statistics. Statistically murders by rifles is less than 1 percent of all gun deaths. Liberals would be banning fucking 9mm pistols sold in the price range of $200-$350 and ban pawn shops from selling used 9mm if they gave a fuck about reducing deaths. There is a reason why the DNC, at this very moment, is circulating a petition that requires you to DONATE if you want to add your fucking name. They dont give a flying fuck about your opinion, they just want your money. Become a libertarian, you'd be surprised how much in common you have with them without the two-faced nature of self-proclaimed liberals.
yes, in fact, there is nothing unconstitutional about me having some sort of alient blaster as its not a firearm. However the supreme court, in 1938 did rule that the 2nd amendment was intended to give the people access to the same weapons of the 'military of the day' meaning the exact same type of weapons the military uses.
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i believe the original claims was that there was Collusion which implies conspiracy. The white house denied any collusion. and definitely said investigations into such were a waste of time and should be shut down. Are you old enough to remember the whitewater fishing expedition into hillary fraud even in the 90s? The dems made the exact same statements then, (vast right wing conspiracy) and nobody screamed obstruction of justice. After all that investigation we got purgery about a blue dress and inappropriate sexual conduct with a subordinate to which consent legally cannot be established due to the nature of the working relationship.
your points aren't too far off from accurate but the revisionist bit about mere interference as a redressing of the very load claims that trump worked with the russians to hack and steal an election. We knew trump would deny russian meddling, the same way he wigged out over the claims of the size of inauguration. Its not cover-up, its narcissism. But she's just as narcissistic so it was lose-lose there all the way around.
hmm thats a pretty good point, if foreigners are not supposed to get involved, then technically it would be lawful to have ICE at their rallies to check citizenship.
so your saying the efforts to derail the investigation into uranium one or the campaign financed Steel Dossier which was later used to mislead a FISA judge are being done by non-patriotic americans then. Glad that was clarified.
or just how bad she is at managing our money. Maybe we should have Internet Research Group in charge of our budget and taxes j/k
you do realize that our CIA has been doing this shit since the Shaw of Iran's rule right? You act like this is all new and unprecedented.... it in fact has been going on for a very long time. We do it. They do it.
such as knowingly sending confidential material over the public internet as unecrypted SMTP transmissions? Never going to happen, because then they would have to throw their little darling into jail next to him. We all know that wont happen, too many people die from accidental muggings and suicides that ever cross her the wrong way.
yea I pointed that out before... I said "Let me get this straight, I am to believe that Internet Research Group spent $150k on ads and manage to swing the election. Yet Killary spent hundreds of MILLIONS in advertising and lost. So you are basically telling me she is 100% unfit to be president because she would be spending MILLIONS in OUR tax dollars when mere THOUSANDS would have gotten the job done just as well, if not better?"
nope... the 10 amendments appear in an order for a reason. you cant have a 1st amendment and keep the government out unless they have a 2nd amendment to deal with them if they refuse to stay out of the 1st... they all reinforce themselves in some manner. What stops government for forcing you to stable soldiers like the sheriffs brother-in-law?? the fact he might wake up dead if he pulled some shit like trying to sleep in your house. I lost all faith in the printed media when we learned, not even debatable regardless if it was russian hacking, they conspired with the clinton campaign to rig the democratic primary election. Thats when I wanted to burn them all to the ground. This isnt propganda, they didnt fucking deny it, they are just pissed that some russians hacked his [podestas] email (his goddamn password was revealed via click-bate) and now we know how every american was disenfranchised.
i think the overdose numbers are more scary than suicide, or are we counting them as suicide now? We lose more to suicide than car accidents, heart attacks, and homicides (all kinds) combined.
then you should at least appreciate what Rand Paul said calling them out for not being the fiscal conservatives they claim to be.
I thought a nazi was anti-jew not anti-muslem.
yes it has
http://www.tallahassee.com/sto...
"Local law enforcement: No ties between militia and Florida high school shooter"
thats like someone doing something and then claiming alegience to Al Queda. Its not the same thing.
please explain what gun was used to kill 50 people in France on Bastille day? Im still waiting. You cannot legislate crazy.
its amazing how many millions of dollars HRC spent on advertizing and yet $150k in facebook ads elected trump. If you could EVER make a case that Killary was NEVER qualified to be president, you just did. Why elect some bitter turd who would spend hundreds of millions of YOUR tax dollars on shit that could be done for just $150 THOUSAND???? Totally not qualified if anything you say is even remotely true.
yes it does, see United States vs Miller 1938. IT clearly does state that. If you dont want me having them, see to it that my police and government also do not have them. its about balance of power. The SCOTUS said in that case that the purpose of the 2nd amendment was to ensure that the people had access to the same weapons as 'the military of the day'. And because mr miller had a sawed-off shotgun, something the military did NOT use, allegedly, his 2nd amendment was not violated. Lets be clear, I dont think i should have nukes, but I also dont think my government should have them either. They are never supposed to have more power than the people. THAT was the point. IF you want me to only have flintlocks and revolvers, disarm the police like they did in england.
finally someone else who understands that we are all the militia whether we like it or not. and someone who gets there was to be no standing army. why the hell did you post AC?
only if the police and military are also restricted to flintlock rifles. See the SCOTUS decision of United States vs Miller. 2nd amendment gets us the same tools the military of the day uses.
not if you accept the SCOTUS decision in 1938, United States vs Miller. They concluded that the 2nd amendment gives 'the people' to own the same weapons as the 'military of the day', and because miller had a sawed off shotgun instead of an automatic machine gun, he was still in violation of the 1938 national firearms act. So you can interpret that to mean that because the military has stinger missiles, I should be able to buy them too. Im not advocating that, but thats the last interpretation on the subject.
no, he tried to say this was a right wing nazi militia dude... its the whole undertones of trying to tie it back to a particular group. It turned out to be fake news that he was in that white supremist group. I wanted to point out that before someone jump to some right-wing-gun-toting conclusion, this county is overwhelmingly democrat. The chances of him being a right wing nut are not good so best not go there. The point is the dude was off his rocker, just like the columbine kids. BTW he was 19, so you might want to catch up here. He was old enough to vote and was old enough to buy his rifle nearly a year ago. His dad died a few years ago and he just lost his mom to pneumonia. He picked VALENTINES day for a very specific reason. We dont yet know why, but rest asured it was significant. He got expelled a while ago and it wasnt on valentines day. It _could_ be that his ex-girlfriend had a new boyfriend that ended up beating him up (maybe he had it coming) but that is still to be determined. My point is "Gun Toting Pro-Trump" is about as unlikely as it will get in Broward County.
I am a 6yr veteran of the first gulf war. Yes i have used many of the same guns you are talking about. This guy WAS smart enough to build a bomb. For fucks sake there are uneducated jihadists in Iraq building IEDs every day and their education extends to addition, some multiplication, and fucking their sisters. He was smart enough to use a fire alarm.. where do kids congregate after a fire alarm is pulled... in a parking lot. So yes a truck would have been a very effective tool for mass murder.
i doubt the russian government would be labled pro gun. They have some strict gun laws. I think they are pretty pro-chaos. However, its not that they are super effective given their own devices, its that we let fucking assfucks like mark Zuckerfuck ruin society with their goddamn tools that our government thought was a great means of mass control. Unfortunately the russians figured out how to use it better than our government did. IF you want to stop russian tambering, start by storming Facebook and other social media and hang the executives in the street, and tear their server farms to the ground. Otherwise accept the mind control of the masses that the russians are doing a better job of manipulating.
not saying you are wrong, but shouldnt we start insisting our agencies stop doing the same fucking thing in other countries too? I get tired of hearing the left whine about this and pretend we dont have fucking blood on our hands. We get what we deserve, and if thats russian meddling, well we probably earned that honestly too.
try to keep up...
http://www.tallahassee.com/sto...
turns out to be fake news yet again.
untrue, liberals always target 'scary looking guns'. If they really gave a flying fuck about reducing numbers they would use statistics. Statistically murders by rifles is less than 1 percent of all gun deaths. Liberals would be banning fucking 9mm pistols sold in the price range of $200-$350 and ban pawn shops from selling used 9mm if they gave a fuck about reducing deaths. There is a reason why the DNC, at this very moment, is circulating a petition that requires you to DONATE if you want to add your fucking name. They dont give a flying fuck about your opinion, they just want your money. Become a libertarian, you'd be surprised how much in common you have with them without the two-faced nature of self-proclaimed liberals.
yes, in fact, there is nothing unconstitutional about me having some sort of alient blaster as its not a firearm. However the supreme court, in 1938 did rule that the 2nd amendment was intended to give the people access to the same weapons of the 'military of the day' meaning the exact same type of weapons the military uses.