Ok, you get the students through science classes, through college degrees, and maybe even through graduate science studies. Is it really such a sham that they find gainful employment at companies who will spend the necessary money to employ them in R&D projects funded by such a "sham" initiative? Slashdotters, admittedly leftists in their world view, rail on and on about outsourcing and lask of $$ for R&D in computer science etc, however when someone comes along with an idea to get the $$$ back into R&D, its deadpanned as a sham. Seriously, the general dislike/hatred of George Bush is blinding you to even good ideas the man may espouse.
CIA blowup? You mean the NSA "blowup"? In any event you should consider Franklin's quote, which you cite, as perhaps giving as much (and IMHO more) justification for the existence/legality/morality of the NSA surveillance than against privacy concerns. Note he did say liberty and not privacy.
And moreover, why is this being termed by the media as domestic surveillance when it is clearly focused primarily overseas and only spotlights (obvious apple fanboy plug) the United States when those calls from suspected and/or confirmed terrorists are answered in the US?
Lastly, what I find even more befuddling is that with the perhaps justified lack of details and raw facts about the program itself (besides the official line and the mass histerionics on the left), people can say with certainty whether this is legal or not. In one of Bush's more candid moments, he did say "If I was trying to break the law, why would I inform Congress?" Perhaps one of his better public speaking moments.
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Yeah, about those approval ratings, try finding a poll that has equal weighting of Democrats and Republicans. You'll be hardpressed to do so...
I'll bite...
Ok, you get the students through science classes, through college degrees, and maybe even through graduate science studies. Is it really such a sham that they find gainful employment at companies who will spend the necessary money to employ them in R&D projects funded by such a "sham" initiative? Slashdotters, admittedly leftists in their world view, rail on and on about outsourcing and lask of $$ for R&D in computer science etc, however when someone comes along with an idea to get the $$$ back into R&D, its deadpanned as a sham. Seriously, the general dislike/hatred of George Bush is blinding you to even good ideas the man may espouse.
Nice of those same "patriotic students" to leave out "essencial" elements of their citation. I guess you pick up a few things in law school...
And moreover, why is this being termed by the media as domestic surveillance when it is clearly focused primarily overseas and only spotlights (obvious apple fanboy plug) the United States when those calls from suspected and/or confirmed terrorists are answered in the US?
Lastly, what I find even more befuddling is that with the perhaps justified lack of details and raw facts about the program itself (besides the official line and the mass histerionics on the left), people can say with certainty whether this is legal or not. In one of Bush's more candid moments, he did say "If I was trying to break the law, why would I inform Congress?" Perhaps one of his better public speaking moments.