Don't get me wrong. I was a newbie once, but I'm not a typical computer user. I'm an apache configuring, perl coding, Unix administrator. I don't see the point in taking Linux to the "end-user". I don't want to see Linux dumbed-down, and I don't want to see Linux split off into 30 different levels of complexity to fit from "techno-phobe" to "techno-god".
We appear to have a Catch-22. If we make Linux secure enough, and easy enough for the typical techno-phobe to install without having to hack the/etc/inetd.conf file, we make it less powerful, less robust, and more prone to "stupid user tricks". Linux will be blamed because some solitaire player out there "rm -rf/*" and doesn't quite know what he did. That is some of the problem with Windows now. You don't honestly think that all of the horror stories are because of M$ coding, do you? Some of it is user-error.
Increasing the user base of Linux will only lower the Lowest Common Denominator.
I say that we should keep Linux as the geek reserve and server room wonder that it is now. It will keep a more pure product.
I'll say what everyone else is afraid to say: An intelligent person can, and will, pick up things faster, easier, and with less work. Intelligence is one's ability to think. I've known doctors who can understand computers and who are wonderfully attentive doctors, and I've known average doctors who couldn't use a keyboard if they were at gun-point. An intelligent person will excel(tm) regardless of their field. An intelligent person will be able to make associations, see patterns, devise strategies, and complete tasks with little or no guidance. Someone is not "intelligent on one area". Intelligent people are intelligent in all areas. A car mechanic who is a good car mechanic doesn't have to be intelligent to excel(tm). They just have to have a good memory of patterns and a good ability to see a cause-effect relationship. A good computer programmer is just one who knows tricks, and techniques. Just because he can program well doesn't mean he is intelligent. An intelligent person can do well at all things. He may not have experience, but he will learn quickly, he will see patterns, he will see cause-effect relationships, he will devise new techniques, he will notice things that other people won't and he will excel(tm). With less experience and knowledge than others, an intelligent person will be able to hold his own. An intelligent person will naturally gravitate to the more mentally challenging areas, such as surgery, engineering, science, math, and computers. These things are more based in fact and science than art, or other BS subjects. If an intelligent person goes to something other than the above, he will excel(tm) as well. Intelligent people are, by nature, successful. And don't give me any of this "ambition" crap. People who are quick but not ambitious are failures. How intelligent does one have to be to be a failure?
You have given a prime example of the need for education on the relationship between rights and responsibilities.
As a semi-fascist, I truly believe that everyone should ask how their actions could affect the country and their countrymen. You seem to be only interested in what your rights are, and how you can interpret your rights to interfere with the rights of others. This person wanted to cause a scare. He wanted to walk into a crowded theater and yell "Fire". I have no doubt of that.
The FBI probably asked the site to take a gander at the site and determine whether or not this broke the agreement the site maintainer signed. I would be surprised if it didn't.
Now, having given 6 years of my life to defending the rights you enjoy, I think you need to consider what affect this person's perceived rights might have on others. If I ran around saying that everything you posted contained an HTML exploit, I would look as silly as this "artist" did. You would also be inconvenienced.
"Think not what your country can do for you, but what you can do for your country." - JFK
We all need to live by those words. The needs of the few do not outweigh the needs of the many, except in the minds of children and romantics.
I agree! If you are so bored that you can only worry about some fictitious spook reading your "personal" email, you have a great life. Go out and enjoy it. Besides, what could you possibly have to hide? If you want to hide something, get PGP and start sending encrypted messages. If getting PGP is too much effort, you don't need privacy. I agree, in theory, that we need privacy. But when the crap hits the windmaster, we have to adjust our priorities. We, the peace-loving citizens of this world, have to adjust our priorities. Are we worried about someone reading our loveletters? or are we worried about someone's conspiracy to get a bunch of small kids to start shooting each other so gun laws can be made? The previous was just an example, not my belief. I'm really not a kook.
I am not sure, but this doesn't fall in the "Fire" catagory. No legal punishment should be implemented. As for defamation of character, that is a civil issue. First Post???
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Don't get me wrong. I was a newbie once, but I'm not a typical computer user. I'm an apache configuring, perl coding, Unix administrator. I don't see the point in taking Linux to the "end-user". I don't want to see Linux dumbed-down, and I don't want to see Linux split off into 30 different levels of complexity to fit from "techno-phobe" to "techno-god".
/etc/inetd.conf file, we make it less powerful, less robust, and more prone to "stupid user tricks". Linux will be blamed because some solitaire player out there "rm -rf /*" and doesn't quite know what he did. That is some of the problem with Windows now. You don't honestly think that all of the horror stories are because of M$ coding, do you? Some of it is user-error.
We appear to have a Catch-22. If we make Linux secure enough, and easy enough for the typical techno-phobe to install without having to hack the
Increasing the user base of Linux will only lower the Lowest Common Denominator.
I say that we should keep Linux as the geek reserve and server room wonder that it is now. It will keep a more pure product.
Just my $0.02. I hope I didn't offend.
I'll say what everyone else is afraid to say: An intelligent person can, and will, pick up things faster, easier, and with less work. Intelligence is one's ability to think. I've known doctors who can understand computers and who are wonderfully attentive doctors, and I've known average doctors who couldn't use a keyboard if they were at gun-point. An intelligent person will excel(tm) regardless of their field. An intelligent person will be able to make associations, see patterns, devise strategies, and complete tasks with little or no guidance. Someone is not "intelligent on one area". Intelligent people are intelligent in all areas. A car mechanic who is a good car mechanic doesn't have to be intelligent to excel(tm). They just have to have a good memory of patterns and a good ability to see a cause-effect relationship. A good computer programmer is just one who knows tricks, and techniques. Just because he can program well doesn't mean he is intelligent. An intelligent person can do well at all things. He may not have experience, but he will learn quickly, he will see patterns, he will see cause-effect relationships, he will devise new techniques, he will notice things that other people won't and he will excel(tm). With less experience and knowledge than others, an intelligent person will be able to hold his own. An intelligent person will naturally gravitate to the more mentally challenging areas, such as surgery, engineering, science, math, and computers. These things are more based in fact and science than art, or other BS subjects. If an intelligent person goes to something other than the above, he will excel(tm) as well. Intelligent people are, by nature, successful. And don't give me any of this "ambition" crap. People who are quick but not ambitious are failures. How intelligent does one have to be to be a failure?
You have given a prime example of the need for education on the relationship between rights and responsibilities.
As a semi-fascist, I truly believe that everyone should ask how their actions could affect the country and their countrymen. You seem to be only interested in what your rights are, and how you can interpret your rights to interfere with the rights of others. This person wanted to cause a scare. He wanted to walk into a crowded theater and yell "Fire". I have no doubt of that.
The FBI probably asked the site to take a gander at the site and determine whether or not this broke the agreement the site maintainer signed. I would be surprised if it didn't.
Now, having given 6 years of my life to defending the rights you enjoy, I think you need to consider what affect this person's perceived rights might have on others. If I ran around saying that everything you posted contained an HTML exploit, I would look as silly as this "artist" did. You would also be inconvenienced.
"Think not what your country can do for you, but what you can do for your country." - JFK
We all need to live by those words. The needs of the few do not outweigh the needs of the many, except in the minds of children and romantics.
I agree! If you are so bored that you can only worry about some fictitious spook reading your "personal" email, you have a great life. Go out and enjoy it. Besides, what could you possibly have to hide? If you want to hide something, get PGP and start sending encrypted messages. If getting PGP is too much effort, you don't need privacy. I agree, in theory, that we need privacy. But when the crap hits the windmaster, we have to adjust our priorities. We, the peace-loving citizens of this world, have to adjust our priorities. Are we worried about someone reading our loveletters? or are we worried about someone's conspiracy to get a bunch of small kids to start shooting each other so gun laws can be made? The previous was just an example, not my belief. I'm really not a kook.
I am not sure, but this doesn't fall in the "Fire" catagory. No legal punishment should be implemented. As for defamation of character, that is a civil issue. First Post???