could i do better than the gov? I dont know. but at least I know its my money, and i can do what I wish with it. If i die, it doesnt just vanish, it can go to my kids or wife(if i have them) or my family if i dont
i get the argument, but thats not the argument that was put forth (or as I followed it anyway)
But it's still quite distasteful to see so many good comments get modded down to -1 so often. Modding like that is a form of censorship, and it should have no place here.
is what I was responding to. Modding a comment here up or down is not censorship, the post doesnt go away, and I cant speak for everyone but i always browse at -1 looking for such cases that I feel are unjustly modded down.
I getit, i cant tell you how many times i look at my post history and see a list of 5 posts in a row on a topic modded down. its obvious in those cases it is just someone down modding me either because they disagree or dont like me personally for whatever reason. But in the end, that is still not censorship IMO
I dont use reddit, it has the absolute worse interface on the web today, it makes geocities pages look classy, navigating it is a joke so i cant comment on their stuff.
it is YOUR job to ensure YOUR kids dont see things YOU dont want them to see. Its not as if they turn on the computer all of a sudden a burning man is on the screen. one has to go to a site where it is. A child should not have that kind of access to the internet
in the old days, we used to do some really bad things for really wrong reasons. we even accused people of being witches and burned them for it. Sadly today, there are still people out there who think its ok to do these things, we call them islamic extremists.
If so many people hadn't witnessed 9/11 first hand we might not have gone ape shit over the whole thing and reacted more productively
and on the other end of things, if no one saw it or witnessed it, we would have even more kooks out there claiming it never happened, or it was a planned demo, or (insert loose change "fact" here) than we already do. Heck there are people who to this day dont believe the holocaust was real. well, guess what, it was, and ive seen the gas chambers and crematoriums with my own eyes in germany, dachau to be specific.
i never said I wanted to undo SS. But I do think people should be given an option. I would much rather put my SS money in an IRA or something that is mine, and mine alone. I worked hard for my money, I want to keep it.
charter schools, at least in NY (cant speak for anywhere else) tend to put out higher educated kids than the local public schools. this is a fact in NY.
so we have some people complaining that its not fair that these kids get to go to these charter schools while their kids are stuck in public school
heres an idea, lets get rid of the dept of ed, lets get rid of tenure for k-12 teachers, and hire the best teachers. If doing that works in the charter schools why cant we try it in the public schools?
Instead of bringing the smart kids down, why not allow them to do their thing?
funny you bring up SS, SS would be fine if the govt stopped raiding it. People pay into SS, therefore they deserve what they put in when they retire. SS is not a handout, its a retirement plan.
As for "saving when younger" well, yeah, you should have been saving more when you were younger, I know im gonna have issues when i get older because of my recklessness as a youngster, I got enough time to make it better but if i didnt i wouldnt blame anyone but myself
what do you do when someone spends their MGI on crack? Do you let them starve or make them sleep on the streets? No, of course you don't, because we're not barbarians./quote. Theres where I say yes, thats exactly what you do. people need to learn to be responsible for themselves. and if they blow it, too bad. does it sound heartless? yeah, but the sad truth is if we keep bailing out people who wont help themselves, we are only hurting the rest of the people
I like a lot of what you are saying here, but to claim capitalism has failed is a bit of a stretch, sure its a crappy system, but its still the best system any country of our size has ever tried
so the MGI, would you be replacing welfare with this? Meaning instead of giving "the poor" stuff (food cards, tax credits etc) we are simply writing a check to them and letting them decide how to spend it (but if they spend it recklessly, they are on their own???) because if that is what you are saying, i have been saying we need to do something like that for years.
If you do the math on how much we spend on welfare each year (by welfare i mean all social safety net stuff) and simply wrote a 1 time check to those in true need, to give them the opportunity to get back on their feet rather than continuing to rely on the govt. it would save SO much more money we could reduce the size of the government at the same time.
this entire thing could be stopped byrewriting the tax code. there is no good reason that we have the highest taxes in the world, yet we STILL need more money
Im going to blame the govt before i blame the rich. the rich are playing by the rules put in place by the govt. in other words, dont hate the player, hate the game
as for min wage, we all see how well raising min wage is working out now. more part time jobs and less full time workers. Also robots and self serve POS terminals. Yeah, thats REALLY helping
hmm, I didnt really look at it that way before. I would say indentured servitude instead of slavery, but i get what you are saying.
As I said I dont know what the answer is. but i would rather make people work for their handout than simply give out handouts.
Im in no way blaming the poor, I was poor once, and not long ago. just a few months actually. I busted my butt to get out of poverty and while I would still call myself poor (40 grand a year in NY is poor by any standard) I can finally afford to make sure i have gas in my car and food on my plate.
I didnt do this because of government help, i did it in spite of government help. There is nothing good about wanting to steal from those who are working so i can sit on my butt all day watching (govt subsidized) tv on my (govt subsidized) cell phone
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could i do better than the gov? I dont know. but at least I know its my money, and i can do what I wish with it. If i die, it doesnt just vanish, it can go to my kids or wife(if i have them) or my family if i dont
But it's still quite distasteful to see so many good comments get modded down to -1 so often. Modding like that is a form of censorship, and it should have no place here.
is what I was responding to. Modding a comment here up or down is not censorship, the post doesnt go away, and I cant speak for everyone but i always browse at -1 looking for such cases that I feel are unjustly modded down.
I getit, i cant tell you how many times i look at my post history and see a list of 5 posts in a row on a topic modded down. its obvious in those cases it is just someone down modding me either because they disagree or dont like me personally for whatever reason. But in the end, that is still not censorship IMO
I dont use reddit, it has the absolute worse interface on the web today, it makes geocities pages look classy, navigating it is a joke so i cant comment on their stuff.
so +1 insightful is not speech? -1 troll is not speech?
wow, seems there is a new definition of speech i was unaware of
if you are not qualified to do anything more than flip burgers, why should you be paid 50 grand a year???
but it still happens. and those people should be prosecuted for abusing the system, and stealing from people who work for a living
freedom of speech is not just a real argument, its the only necessary argument
it is YOUR job to ensure YOUR kids dont see things YOU dont want them to see. Its not as if they turn on the computer all of a sudden a burning man is on the screen. one has to go to a site where it is. A child should not have that kind of access to the internet
not sure who modded this down, but this should be +1 insightful
and a 5 year old should not be left unattended on the internet so.... yeah
actually not hard at all
in the old days, we used to do some really bad things for really wrong reasons. we even accused people of being witches and burned them for it. Sadly today, there are still people out there who think its ok to do these things, we call them islamic extremists.
see??? not that hard
so what you are saying is that to ensure "free speech" of the poster, you want to limit "free speech" of the moderators???
Not sure if you are aware of the irony of your post
If so many people hadn't witnessed 9/11 first hand we might not have gone ape shit over the whole thing and reacted more productively
and on the other end of things, if no one saw it or witnessed it, we would have even more kooks out there claiming it never happened, or it was a planned demo, or (insert loose change "fact" here) than we already do. Heck there are people who to this day dont believe the holocaust was real. well, guess what, it was, and ive seen the gas chambers and crematoriums with my own eyes in germany, dachau to be specific.
i never said I wanted to undo SS. But I do think people should be given an option. I would much rather put my SS money in an IRA or something that is mine, and mine alone. I worked hard for my money, I want to keep it.
from us. but getting something for that money is better than nothing
charter schools, at least in NY (cant speak for anywhere else) tend to put out higher educated kids than the local public schools. this is a fact in NY.
so we have some people complaining that its not fair that these kids get to go to these charter schools while their kids are stuck in public school
heres an idea, lets get rid of the dept of ed, lets get rid of tenure for k-12 teachers, and hire the best teachers. If doing that works in the charter schools why cant we try it in the public schools?
Instead of bringing the smart kids down, why not allow them to do their thing?
right? and im sure people in africa would KILL for those hand me downs, free housing and electricity....
How does the old saying go? A man with no shoes, stops complaining when he meets the man with no feet
what defines "unoccupied"?
If I show up once a year to hay the lot out to feed horses, well thats use right? There will always be ways around such a thing
funny you bring up SS, SS would be fine if the govt stopped raiding it. People pay into SS, therefore they deserve what they put in when they retire. SS is not a handout, its a retirement plan.
As for "saving when younger" well, yeah, you should have been saving more when you were younger, I know im gonna have issues when i get older because of my recklessness as a youngster, I got enough time to make it better but if i didnt i wouldnt blame anyone but myself
Look at Colorado. Legalized marijuana and the Mexican gangs are moving in to supply cheaper product.
If only there was something that could be done about that. maybe along the border of mexico and the USA. I dont know maybe a fence or something....
no, mexican gangs are only a problem because of how lax we are at border control
while you are correct, we are not a democracy, and democracy has its own issues. If we went by the will of the people, slavery would still be a thing
what do you do when someone spends their MGI on crack? Do you let them starve or make them sleep on the streets? No, of course you don't, because we're not barbarians. /quote. Theres where I say yes, thats exactly what you do. people need to learn to be responsible for themselves. and if they blow it, too bad. does it sound heartless? yeah, but the sad truth is if we keep bailing out people who wont help themselves, we are only hurting the rest of the people
I like a lot of what you are saying here, but to claim capitalism has failed is a bit of a stretch, sure its a crappy system, but its still the best system any country of our size has ever tried
so the MGI, would you be replacing welfare with this? Meaning instead of giving "the poor" stuff (food cards, tax credits etc) we are simply writing a check to them and letting them decide how to spend it (but if they spend it recklessly, they are on their own???) because if that is what you are saying, i have been saying we need to do something like that for years.
If you do the math on how much we spend on welfare each year (by welfare i mean all social safety net stuff) and simply wrote a 1 time check to those in true need, to give them the opportunity to get back on their feet rather than continuing to rely on the govt. it would save SO much more money we could reduce the size of the government at the same time.
this entire thing could be stopped byrewriting the tax code. there is no good reason that we have the highest taxes in the world, yet we STILL need more money
Im going to blame the govt before i blame the rich. the rich are playing by the rules put in place by the govt. in other words, dont hate the player, hate the game
as for min wage, we all see how well raising min wage is working out now. more part time jobs and less full time workers. Also robots and self serve POS terminals. Yeah, thats REALLY helping
hmm, I didnt really look at it that way before. I would say indentured servitude instead of slavery, but i get what you are saying.
As I said I dont know what the answer is. but i would rather make people work for their handout than simply give out handouts.
Im in no way blaming the poor, I was poor once, and not long ago. just a few months actually. I busted my butt to get out of poverty and while I would still call myself poor (40 grand a year in NY is poor by any standard) I can finally afford to make sure i have gas in my car and food on my plate.
I didnt do this because of government help, i did it in spite of government help. There is nothing good about wanting to steal from those who are working so i can sit on my butt all day watching (govt subsidized) tv on my (govt subsidized) cell phone
capitalism may be a crappy economic solution, but its still the best one we have to date