Yeah, the Double Irish is not actually illegal per se, hence my specific wording - They took steps to reduce it, but not totally (yet).
If Ireland either refuses to collect, or appeals + loses + then refuses to collect, then the EC can impose fines - they do this already in such cases, and have for decades. Those fines would be on Ireland, and not Apple.
Note: Ireland did commit to follow certain rules, incl rules on state aid for companies, and these are the ones they are being told follow here. EU/EC is not so much trying to force specific tax-rules on Ireland, as they are simply saying this level of taxation is effectively state aid and illegal. This is also why it is the Commission for Competition, that filed the case.
An option I'd think is valid (but highly unlikely, and very hurtful) would be to simply deny Ireland access to the Common Market, on grounds that Irish companies are not competing fairly - this is the basis for the rules for state aid, and would be in line with the recent ruling.
Apple and Ireland in 2003 entered into an agreement that both should have known is not in compliance with Ireland's pre-existing agreements with the EEC/EU.
The EC told Ireland to correct this, and collect outstanding taxes from Apple.
If Ireland refuses, they can be fined (has happened to other countries), or better, removed from the Common Market (never happened, arguably not a likely step). If Ireland proceeds to try and collect, and Apple refuses, this is a matter between Ireland and Apple, at least until Ireland requests that the rest of the EU seize Apple property to make up for the outstanding taxes.
You might want to go back and read stuff... This is the EC finding that Ireland failed to uphold international tax agreements, based on investigations started in 2014
- EU is not robbing Apple - This is not related to UK's #BreakShit in any ways what-so-ever - Margrethe Vestager is not a timelord who recently went back in time to force Joaquín Almunia to start an investigation against Ireland
Ireland joined the EEC, now the EU, in 1973 Apple was CREATED in 1976
You might want to review your statement, especially since you're basically saying that the EEC's creation in 1958 is after Apple opened an Irish branch in the 1980s.
Apple was one of the front-runners on the Double Irish* tax scheme, and it has taken time to even get here?
The specific tax agreement between Apple and Ireland dates back to 2003, the active investigation started in 2014 based on leaks and reveals, and the 0.005% tax rate has only been in place for the last few years. This is why this is coming up now, and not in 2003, nor in the 1980s when it first got introduced. Other companies have been found to have similar agreements, and not only with Ireland, and many are either under investigation or have already been found non-compliant.
* older scheme, now sort-of illegal in Ireland since 2013
Apple's legal council should have informed them that the tax-agreements with Ireland would/might violate Ireland's international agreements on state aid for companies...
From what I gather, it is not the EU ordering Apple to do anything, but the EC ordering Ireland to collect the money as outstanding taxes. If Ireland refuses, the EC could fine them, or better, remove Ireland from the Common Market, incl all effects this would have.
If Ireland does end up having to collect the taxes, and Apple refuses to pay them, then freezing assets would be on the table.
It is specifically the EC finding that Ireland broke international agreements. In case of Irish non-compliance, EC could fine them, but I think it would be more appropriate to remove them from the Common Market, with all that that entails.
So now we need to retrofit all cars with card-readers and cell-transceivers, so the car can verify that you have a valid license before starting.... Simples!
Not all points of exit are even ABLE to receive e.g. the I-94W slip, or note that you've now left the US - you'll end up spamming people who left the country, that it's time to get out.
Should be easy to determine... Upon entry into the US, papers (notably I-94W) require(s/d) that you mark specific checkboxes if you're a WW2 Nazi criminal, if you've have or plan to kidnap kids, If you're a terrorist, if you're sick or a drug-user. Now review how many ticked off that they are coming to the US to conduct terror, or to kidnap kids, and hold it up against the number of people caught coming to the US for the same reason.... this gives you a basis for how efficient this type of approach is.
I cannot help but giggle about your last comment, that when range gets better, EVs'll become ubiquitous - for most people, the ranges in most EVs are more than enough, but people keep insist they will, one of these days, go on that 6-700km road-trip they've been talking about for the last decade-and-a-half
I had similar surgery in a toe once, first step was 2 injections in/around the phalanges proxima, and then waiting a bit before the injection under the toenail. It was painful, but no nurses required.
And having said that, I don't buy that the current proposed plant makes sense. It has too low revenue per initial cost to justify it, even if it should be low maintenance.
From what I read, parts of the costs is additional infrastructure, that would likely be relevant even w/o the farm.
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Yeah, the Double Irish is not actually illegal per se, hence my specific wording - They took steps to reduce it, but not totally (yet).
If Ireland either refuses to collect, or appeals + loses + then refuses to collect, then the EC can impose fines - they do this already in such cases, and have for decades. Those fines would be on Ireland, and not Apple.
Note: Ireland did commit to follow certain rules, incl rules on state aid for companies, and these are the ones they are being told follow here. EU/EC is not so much trying to force specific tax-rules on Ireland, as they are simply saying this level of taxation is effectively state aid and illegal. This is also why it is the Commission for Competition, that filed the case.
An option I'd think is valid (but highly unlikely, and very hurtful) would be to simply deny Ireland access to the Common Market, on grounds that Irish companies are not competing fairly - this is the basis for the rules for state aid, and would be in line with the recent ruling.
Apple and Ireland in 2003 entered into an agreement that both should have known is not in compliance with Ireland's pre-existing agreements with the EEC/EU.
The EC told Ireland to correct this, and collect outstanding taxes from Apple.
If Ireland refuses, they can be fined (has happened to other countries), or better, removed from the Common Market (never happened, arguably not a likely step).
If Ireland proceeds to try and collect, and Apple refuses, this is a matter between Ireland and Apple, at least until Ireland requests that the rest of the EU seize Apple property to make up for the outstanding taxes.
Time-lines does not align with your suggestion.
You might want to go back and read stuff ... This is the EC finding that Ireland failed to uphold international tax agreements, based on investigations started in 2014
- EU is not robbing Apple
- This is not related to UK's #BreakShit in any ways what-so-ever
- Margrethe Vestager is not a timelord who recently went back in time to force Joaquín Almunia to start an investigation against Ireland
Ireland joined the EEC, now the EU, in 1973
Apple was CREATED in 1976
You might want to review your statement, especially since you're basically saying that the EEC's creation in 1958 is after Apple opened an Irish branch in the 1980s.
Why now and why Apple?
Apple was one of the front-runners on the Double Irish* tax scheme, and it has taken time to even get here?
The specific tax agreement between Apple and Ireland dates back to 2003, the active investigation started in 2014 based on leaks and reveals, and the 0.005% tax rate has only been in place for the last few years. This is why this is coming up now, and not in 2003, nor in the 1980s when it first got introduced.
Other companies have been found to have similar agreements, and not only with Ireland, and many are either under investigation or have already been found non-compliant.
* older scheme, now sort-of illegal in Ireland since 2013
Apple's legal council should have informed them that the tax-agreements with Ireland would/might violate Ireland's international agreements on state aid for companies...
From what I gather, it is not the EU ordering Apple to do anything, but the EC ordering Ireland to collect the money as outstanding taxes.
If Ireland refuses, the EC could fine them, or better, remove Ireland from the Common Market, incl all effects this would have.
If Ireland does end up having to collect the taxes, and Apple refuses to pay them, then freezing assets would be on the table.
It is specifically the EC finding that Ireland broke international agreements.
In case of Irish non-compliance, EC could fine them, but I think it would be more appropriate to remove them from the Common Market, with all that that entails.
So now we need to retrofit all cars with card-readers and cell-transceivers, so the car can verify that you have a valid license before starting.... Simples!
Not all points of exit are even ABLE to receive e.g. the I-94W slip, or note that you've now left the US - you'll end up spamming people who left the country, that it's time to get out.
Should be easy to determine...
Upon entry into the US, papers (notably I-94W) require(s/d) that you mark specific checkboxes if you're a WW2 Nazi criminal, if you've have or plan to kidnap kids, If you're a terrorist, if you're sick or a drug-user.
Now review how many ticked off that they are coming to the US to conduct terror, or to kidnap kids, and hold it up against the number of people caught coming to the US for the same reason.... this gives you a basis for how efficient this type of approach is.
Oh, definitely.
I cannot help but giggle about your last comment, that when range gets better, EVs'll become ubiquitous - for most people, the ranges in most EVs are more than enough, but people keep insist they will, one of these days, go on that 6-700km road-trip they've been talking about for the last decade-and-a-half
drives quieter, and it's smoother.
When arguing ICE vs EV, I get the impression that noise and vibration is considered a good thing with ICE.
People like to say he's not a scientist, because he holds an engineering education, and used to work as an engineer.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/...
Not even bothering to check, but I fully assume there are online services that'll create a "sterile" facebook account for you ...
Ads every 2-3 tracks
Improvement over Spotify - I occasionally manage to get ads between every single song, and if I skip a song I'm practically guaranteed an ad.
Since I'm looking for a new job, ca how much are you being paid for this?
Wait a month? It'll then be less than 60 USD, and have had bugfixes.
I had similar surgery in a toe once, first step was 2 injections in/around the phalanges proxima, and then waiting a bit before the injection under the toenail. It was painful, but no nurses required.
Meanwhile, I now have 11 toenails ...
Not that relevant, but I (male) use darkbitter chocolate in a similar way - it is helping reduce/manage neuropathic pain
I was thinking Highlander II ....
Oh, sure - I just thought it was fun that looking for "Click bait" on G+ gave me a community for the NFL :)
Well, I went and search for "click bait" on Google Plus communities for you, and this was the first result: https://plus.google.com/u/0/co...
As for the rest, no idea - not something I really come across on G+
And having said that, I don't buy that the current proposed plant makes sense. It has too low revenue per initial cost to justify it, even if it should be low maintenance.
From what I read, parts of the costs is additional infrastructure, that would likely be relevant even w/o the farm.