But you need to understand something: We are at WAR. And the enemies of our country do not give a goddamn about our liberties, or freedoms, our lives, and do not operate by any societal rules whatsoever.
Odd.. After reading this statement, I didn't know who you were talking about, terrorists, or the people in charge of our government....
I FOR ONE WOULD RATHER HAVE A TEMPORARY BENDING OF THE RULES BY THE ONES WE ALREADY PUT IN CHARGE (remember that you and I voted to put all these people in, no matter what party) THAN HAVE THE WHOLE RULEBOOK DESTROYED BY OUR ENEMIES.
Please, I'd rather they follow the rules that are in place already and agreed to be just by all three sects of our government. They have the ability to quickly wiretap, they have the ability to trace calls, view phone records, etc. What they don't want to do is go through the proper channels to get the authorization to do so.
And speak for yourself about the "voted him in". The man is not competent enough to run a deep fryer at McDonalds let alone run a country.
> But if we catch terrorists and avert attacks, what's the harm in the government monitoring these phone > calls? It doesn't affect my daily life one bit - but an attack not thwarted most definitely would!
That's the point. Why make sweeping changes that will get everyone up in arms when you can do it little by little, one basic right after another. By the time mainstream America finally gets the gumption to protest about it, it's too late. The USA 'democracy' is brought down, not by terrorists, but by the ones we've 'elected' to protect us.
I can't think of many (if any) times that our government kept information from us about a project targeted at US citizens that turned out to be for the good of the people. Please, point one out if you know, because my belief in our government has gone the way of the Dodo.
Dunno, i recall hearing that China owned something like 70% of the US debt (not sure on the number). I sure don't try to piss off my creditors either, not unless I really have to.
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But you need to understand something: We are at WAR. And the enemies of our country do not give a goddamn about our liberties, or freedoms, our lives, and do not operate by any societal rules whatsoever.
Odd.. After reading this statement, I didn't know who you were talking about, terrorists, or the people in charge of our government....
I FOR ONE WOULD RATHER HAVE A TEMPORARY BENDING OF THE RULES BY THE ONES WE ALREADY PUT IN CHARGE (remember that you and I voted to put all these people in, no matter what party) THAN HAVE THE WHOLE RULEBOOK DESTROYED BY OUR ENEMIES.
Please, I'd rather they follow the rules that are in place already and agreed to be just by all three sects of our government. They have the ability to quickly wiretap, they have the ability to trace calls, view phone records, etc. What they don't want to do is go through the proper channels to get the authorization to do so.
And speak for yourself about the "voted him in". The man is not competent enough to run a deep fryer at McDonalds let alone run a country.
> But if we catch terrorists and avert attacks, what's the harm in the government monitoring these phone
> calls? It doesn't affect my daily life one bit - but an attack not thwarted most definitely would!
That's the point. Why make sweeping changes that will get everyone up in arms when you can do it little by little, one basic right after another. By the time mainstream America finally gets the gumption to protest about it, it's too late. The USA 'democracy' is brought down, not by terrorists, but by the ones we've 'elected' to protect us.
I can't think of many (if any) times that our government kept information from us about a project targeted at US citizens that turned out to be for the good of the people. Please, point one out if you know, because my belief in our government has gone the way of the Dodo.
Welcome to the Totalitarian States of America.
Dunno, i recall hearing that China owned something like 70% of the US debt (not sure on the number). I sure don't try to piss off my creditors either, not unless I really have to.