She works at International Business Machines Corp. That company hasn't existed for a very long time. Does anyone know when International Business Machines changed their name to IBM? Was it the 1960's? The 1970's? Anyway, it was a hellava long time ago.
A truly cynical slashdot reader would walk down the street, and upon seeing two people in conversation, would wonder "who trolled who?"
FOLKS! If I post something, and someone else responds to it, that does not necessarily mean that I trolled that other guy! There is a possibility that we are actually having a conversation!
I ought to retell the story of the little boy who cried "troll" sometime...
This is one of the routine mails I get every day. Another spammer bites the dust!
Everyone should learn how to trace mail headers, and complain about *every* spam they receive.
From Brian Willcott Wed May 17 14:00:36 2000 X-Apparently-To: pdrap@yahoo.com via mdd103.yahoomail.com Received: from jewnix.org (208.44.130.245) by mta118.mail.yahoo.com with SMTP; 18 May 2000 02:13:51 -0000 Received: from localhost (ids@localhost) by jewnix.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id QAA18927; Wed, 17 May 2000 16:00:36 -0500 Date: Wed, 17 May 2000 16:00:36 -0500 (CDT) From: Brian Willcott | Block address To: Patrick Draper CC: ops@knetconnect.net Subject: Re: Fwd: RE: Have you submitted this? In-Reply-To:
All apologies for this action. The user's account was terminated. Sorry for any inconvience caused. Sincerly, Brian brw@knetconnect.net On Wed, 17 May 2000, Patrick Draper wrote:
> Your customer is a dirty spammer. Terminate their accounts and send > them to prison. > > --- alfred_dominic@IPMailStop.com wrote: > > From nei_zuer_xusta@ip-email.com Wed May 17 19:36:04 2000 > > X-Apparently-To: pdrap@yahoo.com via web127.yahoomail.com > > Return-Path: > > X-YahooFilteredBulk: 193.105.56.209 > > Received: from econ.insead.fr (193.105.56.209) > > by mta105.mail.yahoo.com with SMTP; 17 May 2000 12:51:15 -0000 > > Received: from gateway-ga-nm1.mailhost.mcr-atl-mcremwin.net > > (31-kc1-dialup.knetconnect.net [208.44.131.31]) by > > econ.insead.fr > > (Netscape Messaging Server 3.62) with SMTP id 342; > > Wed, 17 May 2000 14:45:43 +0200 > > Message-Id: > > > > > Subject: RE: Have you submitted this? > > To: @yahoo.com > > X-Mailer: Pegasus Mail for Win32 (v3.01b) > > Date: Wed, 17 May 2000 08:50:24 -0500 > > From: alfred_dominic@IPMailStop.com > > MIME-Version: 1.0 > > X-Encoding: MIME > > Content-Type: multipart/alternative; > > boundary="----=_NextPart_4388685666521173163256153 783464" > > Content-Length: 3659 > > > > Home Owners, Get the + Plus + you need. > > > > + You want to consolidate bills > > + You want to make home improvements > > + You want cash for extras
Could SGI make some money by selling the pretty cases? I've got a Celery 300 and a P133, both of which are fast enough for programming. But they are in ugly boxes! I'd pay a good chunk of change for an SGI box that my boards would fit in.
Isn't it interesting that just after the article about new and tricky ways of consuming all the bandwidth to a server via TCP protocol manipulation (complete with source code!) that/. experiences a denial of service attack?
Cmdr. Taco, I would be very interested in seeing a technical writeup of the DOS attack, and how you and your engineers dealt with it. Most of all, could you let us know what technology the attackers used?
That's great to know! There's really nothing at all to lose from assigning copyright to the FSF. I will personally do that for all GPL software I write from now on.
You're not giving up any control at all when you assign copyright to the FSF. You still have a copy of the GPL'ed code in your possession, with all the rights that come with it. That means you can still modify and distribute the code according to the GPL, just like you were doing before.
This is what you *will* give up: if someone infringes your license, then you won't have the right to sue them. The FSF will have that right, and it's possible that they will not pursue a case while you might have done so. On the other hand, pursuing a case takes money and good legal counsel, which the FSF has or can probably raise quickly if GPL case was going to court.
The other thing you will give up is your right to distribute your source code under a different license. You could distribute a program called "Duke of URL's Hello World" under the GPL, but then one day decide to sell someone else a copy of "Duke of URL's Hello World" under a restrictive shrink wrap license without source code. If you were the copyright holder, you could do that. If you assign the FSF all copyrights, then you're just any other schmoe out there, with GPL rights and that's it.
These answers were as sanitized, bleached-white, corn-flakes with no sugar, blue pants/white shirt/red tie/wingtips, cut short combed across the top, Reader's Digest, go to bed at 9PM inoffensive as any comments that I've read in a long time.
That scares me! From the answers, I can't tell anything about the man (or was it a woman? I can't tell!) who wrote them. He gave us nothing really personal, nothing to indicate that he has a different opinion than me about anything. I find that disappointing. Interviews with ESR or RMS at least let you find out what the person really thinks, and what their values might be.
One of the comments on the page poopooed the importance of transactional integrity, claiming that commercial databases didn't support commit and rollback before 1993 or so.
That's just plain wrong. I was using Oracle 5.0 on a MS-DOS environment in 1990, and even that had commit and rollback implemented.
You're right. C&C for Win95 has that nice little ditty "Mechanical Man". My strategy is to build my forces until that song comes on, then let the other guy have it!
If Linuxcare goes under, I hope that people won't point to it as proof that you can't make money in Linux. The money to be made just isn't the traditional kind of money.
I used to contract for American Express and some folks there argued with me about Linux, claiming that AMEX couldn't make make money off a free OS. HELLO! AMEX was in the credit card business, and if they based things off a low cost OS that would positively affect their bottom line.
Most companies will never sell an OS. I can count the ones that do on one hand if I have about 20 fingers on that hand. The way to make money off Linux is to create a business, any kind of business, and use Linux to run your business. Operating systems are old old technology now. There's no excuse for a Microsoft or a Sun making billions of dollars off old technology! Obviously those companies get most of their value from new features like journaling filesystems and such, but the inner core operating system is just a commodity now. Get the simple commodity stuff for free, and sell new technology for profit. Everyone benefits because technology advances.
Eventually Linux will have every feature that could possibly be added. It doesn't yet though. Linux is what our computers *should* have been running 15 years ago, so that disqualifies it from being new technology. The fact that I was stuck with DOS until 1993 drives me nuts, because it didn't have to be that way, except for companies overcharging for 1950's technology.
Sorry about the rant. I can predict what the "pundits" are going to say about Linux Care's predicament and it makes me a bit cranky.
Which, in my mind, goes to show that there is very little, if any, real difference between the Republicans and the Democrats. Lately, I have been refering to them, collecitvly, as the "Republicrat Party", which is split into 2 factions, which hate eachother for no real reason.
I think you should be given a few insightful points. Democrats and Republicans seem to have a single interest at heart: businesses. It's important to understand the form of government that we have, and increasingly it is an oligarchy. Oligarchy is rule by a small elite, and those elites are business leaders. I am not necessarily against strong business and a strong business voice, but our country is a constitutional republic. The criteria that I use when I judge the goodness of a nation is how well it does in protecting the rights of the minorities. Every country does a great job protecting the majority. I hope ours (the United States) will do a great job of protecting minorities.
(The second word is encrypted within the word steganography, but you'd never know that there was another message there unless I told you that there was.)
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She works at International Business Machines Corp. That company hasn't existed for a very long time. Does anyone know when International Business Machines changed their name to IBM? Was it the 1960's? The 1970's? Anyway, it was a hellava long time ago.
Sometimes I say
"Please terminate the spammer's account, then go over to his house and beat him up, kick his dogs, eat his food, watch his TV, and slap his wife."
You'd be surprised how many responses I get back from sysadmins who say that they thought it was funny, and the wish they could do that for real!
I hope he doesn't give the routers the "full immersion" treatment!
A truly cynical slashdot reader would walk down the street, and upon seeing two people in conversation, would wonder "who trolled who?"
FOLKS! If I post something, and someone else responds to it, that does not necessarily mean that I trolled that other guy! There is a possibility that we are actually having a conversation!
I ought to retell the story of the little boy who cried "troll" sometime...
(a light goes on)
Aha! So THAT'S why John
Lennon wrote such short
lines in that song. I
knew there was a reason.
You're right. The web
is full of tiny typing
boxes.
This is one of the routine mails I get every day. Another spammer bites the dust!
3 783464"
Everyone should learn how to trace mail headers, and complain about *every* spam they receive.
From Brian Willcott Wed May 17 14:00:36 2000
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From:
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Patrick Draper
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All apologies for this action. The user's account was terminated.
Sorry for any inconvience caused.
Sincerly,
Brian
brw@knetconnect.net
On Wed, 17 May 2000, Patrick Draper wrote:
> Your customer is a dirty spammer. Terminate their accounts and send
> them to prison.
>
> --- alfred_dominic@IPMailStop.com wrote:
> > From nei_zuer_xusta@ip-email.com Wed May 17 19:36:04 2000
> > X-Apparently-To: pdrap@yahoo.com via web127.yahoomail.com
> > Return-Path:
> > X-YahooFilteredBulk: 193.105.56.209
> > Received: from econ.insead.fr (193.105.56.209)
> > by mta105.mail.yahoo.com with SMTP; 17 May 2000 12:51:15 -0000
> > Received: from gateway-ga-nm1.mailhost.mcr-atl-mcremwin.net
> > (31-kc1-dialup.knetconnect.net [208.44.131.31]) by
> > econ.insead.fr
> > (Netscape Messaging Server 3.62) with SMTP id 342;
> > Wed, 17 May 2000 14:45:43 +0200
> > Message-Id:
> >
>
> > Subject: RE: Have you submitted this?
> > To: @yahoo.com
> > X-Mailer: Pegasus Mail for Win32 (v3.01b)
> > Date: Wed, 17 May 2000 08:50:24 -0500
> > From: alfred_dominic@IPMailStop.com
> > MIME-Version: 1.0
> > X-Encoding: MIME
> > Content-Type: multipart/alternative;
> > boundary="----=_NextPart_438868566652117316325615
> > Content-Length: 3659
> >
> > Home Owners, Get the + Plus + you need.
> >
> > + You want to consolidate bills
> > + You want to make home improvements
> > + You want cash for extras
etc.
Could SGI make some money by selling the pretty cases? I've got a Celery 300 and a P133, both of which are fast enough for programming. But they are in ugly boxes! I'd pay a good chunk of change for an SGI box that my boards would fit in.
It's a good thing they didn't nuke the moon. They might have turned it into a wasteland where you would always need a protective suit to survive.
Isn't it interesting that just after the article about new and tricky ways of consuming all the bandwidth to a server via TCP protocol manipulation (complete with source code!) that /. experiences a denial of service attack?
Cmdr. Taco, I would be very interested in seeing a technical writeup of the DOS attack, and how you and your engineers dealt with it. Most of all, could you let us know what technology the attackers used?
What? We're already not buying anything Microsoft?
Boycott them even HARDER!
How many packets does it take to transmit the message "Boss' credit number 1234 5678 9012 3456 11/00".
Or maybe "Attack Jun 6 44, Normandy".
There is much data that is tiny, but sensitive.
You've obviously never been dragged to the mall by your wife before...
That's great to know! There's really nothing at all to lose from assigning copyright to the FSF. I will personally do that for all GPL software I write from now on.
You're not giving up any control at all when you assign copyright to the FSF. You still have a copy of the GPL'ed code in your possession, with all the rights that come with it. That means you can still modify and distribute the code according to the GPL, just like you were doing before.
This is what you *will* give up: if someone infringes your license, then you won't have the right to sue them. The FSF will have that right, and it's possible that they will not pursue a case while you might have done so. On the other hand, pursuing a case takes money and good legal counsel, which the FSF has or can probably raise quickly if GPL case was going to court.
The other thing you will give up is your right to distribute your source code under a different license. You could distribute a program called "Duke of URL's Hello World" under the GPL, but then one day decide to sell someone else a copy of "Duke of URL's Hello World" under a restrictive shrink wrap license without source code. If you were the copyright holder, you could do that. If you assign the FSF all copyrights, then you're just any other schmoe out there, with GPL rights and that's it.
I am not a lawyer.
Those guys are still working! Yahoo's website is www.yahoo.com, and Paul Hogan was working on a show called Hogan's Heroes.
Only 16 bits for screen positions?
32768 x 32768 ought to be enough for anyone!
They laughed at Newton.
They laughed at Einstein too!
But, they also laughed at Bozo the Clown.
(with apologies to Carl Sagan)
I'm afraid the English would disagree that Americans speak English...
Why did they blur out the Compaq logo on the photograph of their test system?
These answers were as sanitized, bleached-white, corn-flakes with no sugar, blue pants/white shirt/red tie/wingtips, cut short combed across the top, Reader's Digest, go to bed at 9PM inoffensive as any comments that I've read in a long time.
That scares me! From the answers, I can't tell anything about the man (or was it a woman? I can't tell!) who wrote them. He gave us nothing really personal, nothing to indicate that he has a different opinion than me about anything. I find that disappointing. Interviews with ESR or RMS at least let you find out what the person really thinks, and what their values might be.
One of the comments on the page poopooed the importance of transactional integrity, claiming that commercial databases didn't support commit and rollback before 1993 or so.
That's just plain wrong. I was using Oracle 5.0 on a MS-DOS environment in 1990, and even that had commit and rollback implemented.
You're right. C&C for Win95 has that nice little ditty "Mechanical Man". My strategy is to build my forces until that song comes on, then let the other guy have it!
If Linuxcare goes under, I hope that people won't point to it as proof that you can't make money in Linux. The money to be made just isn't the traditional kind of money.
I used to contract for American Express and some folks there argued with me about Linux, claiming that AMEX couldn't make make money off a free OS. HELLO! AMEX was in the credit card business, and if they based things off a low cost OS that would positively affect their bottom line.
Most companies will never sell an OS. I can count the ones that do on one hand if I have about 20 fingers on that hand. The way to make money off Linux is to create a business, any kind of business, and use Linux to run your business. Operating systems are old old technology now. There's no excuse for a Microsoft or a Sun making billions of dollars off old technology! Obviously those companies get most of their value from new features like journaling filesystems and such, but the inner core operating system is just a commodity now. Get the simple commodity stuff for free, and sell new technology for profit. Everyone benefits because technology advances.
Eventually Linux will have every feature that could possibly be added. It doesn't yet though. Linux is what our computers *should* have been running 15 years ago, so that disqualifies it from being new technology. The fact that I was stuck with DOS until 1993 drives me nuts, because it didn't have to be that way, except for companies overcharging for 1950's technology.
Sorry about the rant. I can predict what the "pundits" are going to say about Linux Care's predicament and it makes me a bit cranky.
Which, in my mind, goes to show that there is very
little, if any, real difference between the
Republicans and the Democrats. Lately, I have been
refering to them, collecitvly, as the
"Republicrat Party", which is split into 2
factions, which hate eachother for no real reason.
I think you should be given a few insightful points. Democrats and Republicans seem to have a single interest at heart: businesses. It's important to understand the form of government that we have, and increasingly it is an oligarchy. Oligarchy is rule by a small elite, and those elites are business leaders. I am not necessarily against strong business and a strong business voice, but our country is a constitutional republic. The criteria that I use when I judge the goodness of a nation is how well it does in protecting the rights of the minorities. Every country does a great job protecting the majority. I hope ours (the United States) will do a great job of protecting minorities.
Two words:
steganography
(The second word is encrypted within the word steganography, but you'd never know that there was another message there unless I told you that there was.)