Small number of fanatics and cruelty do not translate into effectiveness on the battlefield. Americans merely were pissing their pants when they met something they could not imagine themselves doing (sacrificing one's life to accomplish a goal).
Oh? Americans don't sacrifice lives to accomplish a goal?
Iwo Jima. Tarawa. Normandy. And those are just in that timeframe, you stupid fucking fool. Or how about recipients of the Medal of Honor? Take a look at how many of those were granted posthumously. Then I'll be happy to note your retraction of this bullshit, wrong statement.
This is an irrelevant formality because in fact Japan was granted everything it asked for. At most it added to humiliation of Japan, what clearly was not worth nuking two cities.
Wrong.
It does not matter -- for all practical purpose firebombing did everything nukes could do except for the light show and contamination. If you claim that the amount of firebombing was unjustified or excessively cruel for whatever amount of fear it produced (what most likely it was), then nukes did not make things any better.
Incorrect. The atomic bomb showed that it really was possible to turn the entirety of Japan into glass if necessary. It was the unstoppable, overwhelming force that, yes, would leave Americans unscathed. It turned a very bad situation for the Japanese into one that everyone not only knew was unwinnable but--and since you are a fucking idiot I will point out to you that this is the important part--were willing to admit was unwinnable.
No, merely not American. Without the implied respect that Americans have for their military, it's clear that it always was, is, and most likely always will be a bunch of cowards.
See above, dipshit. (America's recently developed problem with casualties is largely a product of the media, which has historically been against American military actions abroad at all times.)
Their wet dream is to be able to kill anyone, anywhere without a slightest risk for themselves.
So in other words, the Americans' "wet dream" is to have a perfectly efficient way of projecting political power via warfare? Wow, because nobody else has ever sought that.
Do you have any grasp on reality whatsoever? Do you understand how politics and the world work? Or is it just "blame the Americans" day in your tiny, broken little mind?
Someone, give them a Death Note already, they will spend the rest of the military budget inventing a way to squeeze more names in it.
Aww, the baka gaijin roundeye weeaboo had to make an anime reference! SO KAWAII!!!!1 ^________^
Moron. It's really kind of funny, though. You say upthread that you're Russian, and you're castigating the Americans for their actions? Really?
Except that's never happened. Clinton lost his appetite for continuing the Somalian conflict when the Army Rangers got into the dust-ups of Mogadishu, but nobody ever says that nobody will get killed.
Are you capable of being intellectually honest? I'm doubting it. Good God, you're a fucking cunt.
Ahh, now it makes sense. You're a member of the nationality that's commited larger acts of genocide than anyone else in history and you're trying very hard to divert the blame for all the ills of the world onto the United States.
Targeting civilians is no more "wrong" than those civilians providing resources and building materiel for the war effort. (In other words--not at all. But you can't have it both ways. Either the civilians don't cooperate and don't contribute to the war effort, or they are targets.)
The object of war is to make the other guy say "uncle." If targeting civilians makes that happen faster, then it's gonna happen.
When you come up with a plausible, effective alternative to a nuclear strike that didn't involve the likely deaths of six to seven figures' worth of Americans, you stupid shitmongering fuckmouth, you're allowed to complain about the Americans' use of the atomic bomb.
That's what I was saying, though. Where the user can do something, give them information. But if Microsoft Word de-references a null pointer, the user can't do anything. "Microsoft Word has committed an error and must be closed" is the right thing to tell the user in that situation. A real wizard can still look at the module and offset stuff, but it's hidden behind a "more information" button, as it should be.
See, I've installed it on a bunch of boxes and it's fine. Not *quite* as snappy as XP, but not bad at all. Windows 7 is faster, though, about on par with XP. And I'm loving it.
Just tried it on my laptop (Core Duo 1.66GHz, 5400rpm drive, 2GB RAM). Loaded up a virtual machine with 1GB of RAM in VMware, fast-user-switched to my machine's other account and back.
So use a theme with more padding. siride was saying (I think) that it's not a good default, not that it shouldn't be allowed. I know that one of my number one issues with a lot of GTK+ stuff is that with so much room taken up by toolbars and other crap, the amount of screen real estate available for actual working is kind of small. (Go look at MonoDevelop versus Visual Studio for an example.)
Exactly. It's a good thing that your OS will use more RAM for caching, so long as it gives it back when somebody else needs it. Think of it as nice(1) for caching or something.
(Then again, the majority of complainers probably don't know what nice(1) is either.)
The CLI is, for all intents and purposes, dead to the Joe User because it sucks unless you remember what the hell all those commands are. People don't want to be typing stuff out. They want a simple, visual interface. How often do you find Joe User dropping to a console on OS X, where the console is as featureful as any Linux one?
You're trying to take a paradigm that plays to the strengths of a techie (the ability to remember stuff like that) and apply it to everybody else. That's exactly what I was talking about in the first post as what doesn't work.
Give the same novice user a Windows GUI and a bash terminal. They won't read help files or man pages, they want it to work right now. Which one are they going to be more effective in, faster?
You're probably just a trolling fucktard, but this is still an important point to address.
To the normal end users, Windows is not "hell". It's what they're used to and comfortable with. Your calling it "windows hell" is based on other attributes that they don't care about. You need to provide something better than what they currently have to be taken at all seriously.
I just went and renamed a DLL file in Office 2003. When I tried to launch the program, the installer automatically started and began a repair process.
I just went and renamed a DLL file in Adobe Photoshop. "The application has failed to start because AXEDOMCore.dll was not found. Re-installing the application may fix this problem."
I just went and renamed a DLL file in FileZilla. "The application has failed to start because mingwm10.dll was not found. Re-installing the application may fix this problem."
Generally (no, it's not always the case), Windows strikes a pretty good balance when it comes to telling the user what they need to know when it comes to simple problems, but making the advanced information available when there's a chance it might help (like referencing an instruction and module that attempts an invalid memory access, for example).
If netbooks continue growing in popularity as they are and Linux keeps its share, then yeah, maybe. (Although there are some problems with that. PopCap's games in particular are still largely done with DirectDraw, which a netbook should have no trouble with, but a lot of "2D" games are being done more and more with 3D to enable effects and the like. Netbooks may not have the horses for some of them, though most should be okay.)
You need the market share before you get the developers, though.
And you miss my point. PopCap doesn't release for Linux because there's no market. You aren't making a market with what you say above and you aren't reducing the pains-in-the-ass of developing a Linux port.
While your post makes a lot of sense, you miss one thing: techies are users too. Different types of users prefer different types of user interfaces.
Yes, but they are not the kind of users we are talking about here. In fact, I almost don't call them "users" at all, mostly because they do considerably more than just "use" it, much like you would assign more technical acumen and a higher expectation of competence to a car mechanic instead of a student driver.
I also disagree that the current interfaces head toward the lowest common denominator. If that was the case, I would not make so much money off that lowest common denominator of user.;-)
You do know you can look at more information in crash dialogs in Windows, right? The usual Windows crash-error dialog box on XP shows something like "show more information about this error" and will show you the module that crashed and the offset, among other things.
The usual Windows crash-error dialog box on XP shows something like "show more information about this error" and will show you the module that crashed and the offset, among other things.
I asked in their IRC when it happened, somebody said it was a known bug, so no, I didn't. I have no idea if they fixed it or not; I put XP back on the laptop. I'm thinking about trying OpenSuSE this time, though.
The fact that it's a bug (and yes, all software has bugs, everybody knows that) does not detract from the fact that Ubuntu's restricted device manager does not work in some pretty common configurations. I fixed it by dropping to the CLI, but that kind of ruins the point.
The games market is already entrenched on Windows; games require a lot of time and effort, especially porting to other platforms--like it or not, the infrastructure for games is not very good, and it's a hell of a lot harder for developers accustomed to DirectX to go to the assorted mess of similar-and-nowhere-near-equivalent Linux APIs. OpenGL just does not equal, Direct3D in developer friendliness and ease of use. Audio libraries under Linux are a mess. And input is a little sketchy--doable, but a pain in the ass. DirectX makes the moderately difficult and annoying things relatively easy and the hard things doable. It's not perfect, but the OSS community could learn a lot from Microsoft in that capacity.
(I personally attribute DirectX's user-friendliness to Microsoft doing something that OSS rarely does: listen to consumers. "Write a patch if you don't like it" doesn't fly if you want adoption.)
Good middleware would help with this, but I'm not aware of any modern cross-platform middleware on Linux that's cheap/free, favorably licensed to proprietary developers, and provide similar perf on Linux as to Windows or consoles. Ogre3D is the closest I know of and I personally like it a lot, but I don't know how well it holds up to the kind of professional development. (I'd love to know of any, though. Bonus points if it has bindings for.NET/Mono; I prefer using managed code for my high-level stuff where possible.)
You probably would see more general-purpose software where it's appropriate, though, I agree on that.
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Small number of fanatics and cruelty do not translate into effectiveness on the battlefield. Americans merely were pissing their pants when they met something they could not imagine themselves doing (sacrificing one's life to accomplish a goal).
Oh? Americans don't sacrifice lives to accomplish a goal?
Iwo Jima. Tarawa. Normandy. And those are just in that timeframe, you stupid fucking fool. Or how about recipients of the Medal of Honor? Take a look at how many of those were granted posthumously. Then I'll be happy to note your retraction of this bullshit, wrong statement.
This is an irrelevant formality because in fact Japan was granted everything it asked for. At most it added to humiliation of Japan, what clearly was not worth nuking two cities.
Wrong.
It does not matter -- for all practical purpose firebombing did everything nukes could do except for the light show and contamination. If you claim that the amount of firebombing was unjustified or excessively cruel for whatever amount of fear it produced (what most likely it was), then nukes did not make things any better.
Incorrect. The atomic bomb showed that it really was possible to turn the entirety of Japan into glass if necessary. It was the unstoppable, overwhelming force that, yes, would leave Americans unscathed. It turned a very bad situation for the Japanese into one that everyone not only knew was unwinnable but--and since you are a fucking idiot I will point out to you that this is the important part--were willing to admit was unwinnable.
No, merely not American. Without the implied respect that Americans have for their military, it's clear that it always was, is, and most likely always will be a bunch of cowards.
See above, dipshit. (America's recently developed problem with casualties is largely a product of the media, which has historically been against American military actions abroad at all times.)
Their wet dream is to be able to kill anyone, anywhere without a slightest risk for themselves.
So in other words, the Americans' "wet dream" is to have a perfectly efficient way of projecting political power via warfare? Wow, because nobody else has ever sought that.
Do you have any grasp on reality whatsoever? Do you understand how politics and the world work? Or is it just "blame the Americans" day in your tiny, broken little mind?
Someone, give them a Death Note already, they will spend the rest of the military budget inventing a way to squeeze more names in it.
Aww, the baka gaijin roundeye weeaboo had to make an anime reference! SO KAWAII!!!!1 ^________^
Moron. It's really kind of funny, though. You say upthread that you're Russian, and you're castigating the Americans for their actions? Really?
Pot. Kettle. Fuck you.
Except that's never happened. Clinton lost his appetite for continuing the Somalian conflict when the Army Rangers got into the dust-ups of Mogadishu, but nobody ever says that nobody will get killed.
Are you capable of being intellectually honest? I'm doubting it. Good God, you're a fucking cunt.
Ahh, now it makes sense. You're a member of the nationality that's commited larger acts of genocide than anyone else in history and you're trying very hard to divert the blame for all the ills of the world onto the United States.
Pathetic.
Targeting civilians is no more "wrong" than those civilians providing resources and building materiel for the war effort. (In other words--not at all. But you can't have it both ways. Either the civilians don't cooperate and don't contribute to the war effort, or they are targets.)
The object of war is to make the other guy say "uncle." If targeting civilians makes that happen faster, then it's gonna happen.
When you come up with a plausible, effective alternative to a nuclear strike that didn't involve the likely deaths of six to seven figures' worth of Americans, you stupid shitmongering fuckmouth, you're allowed to complain about the Americans' use of the atomic bomb.
Until then, fuck off.
That's what I was saying, though. Where the user can do something, give them information. But if Microsoft Word de-references a null pointer, the user can't do anything. "Microsoft Word has committed an error and must be closed" is the right thing to tell the user in that situation. A real wizard can still look at the module and offset stuff, but it's hidden behind a "more information" button, as it should be.
So I think you agree with me. :-)
You do realize that PopCap would roll right into that without trouble, right? You would be competing with PopCap.
(And frankly, I don't think the distro is providing enough in benefits to give them a red cent. Valve doesn't pay Microsoft for games sold on Steam.)
See, I've installed it on a bunch of boxes and it's fine. Not *quite* as snappy as XP, but not bad at all. Windows 7 is faster, though, about on par with XP. And I'm loving it.
Just tried it on my laptop (Core Duo 1.66GHz, 5400rpm drive, 2GB RAM). Loaded up a virtual machine with 1GB of RAM in VMware, fast-user-switched to my machine's other account and back.
Not a problem.
What kind of broken and/or ancient machine takes a minute or two to page back in application data?
So use a theme with more padding. siride was saying (I think) that it's not a good default, not that it shouldn't be allowed. I know that one of my number one issues with a lot of GTK+ stuff is that with so much room taken up by toolbars and other crap, the amount of screen real estate available for actual working is kind of small. (Go look at MonoDevelop versus Visual Studio for an example.)
Exactly. It's a good thing that your OS will use more RAM for caching, so long as it gives it back when somebody else needs it. Think of it as nice(1) for caching or something.
(Then again, the majority of complainers probably don't know what nice(1) is either.)
The CLI is, for all intents and purposes, dead to the Joe User because it sucks unless you remember what the hell all those commands are. People don't want to be typing stuff out. They want a simple, visual interface. How often do you find Joe User dropping to a console on OS X, where the console is as featureful as any Linux one?
You're trying to take a paradigm that plays to the strengths of a techie (the ability to remember stuff like that) and apply it to everybody else. That's exactly what I was talking about in the first post as what doesn't work.
Give the same novice user a Windows GUI and a bash terminal. They won't read help files or man pages, they want it to work right now. Which one are they going to be more effective in, faster?
Except that Vista does graceful caching and cedes RAM when an application wants it. Forgot that part, hm?
You're probably just a trolling fucktard, but this is still an important point to address.
To the normal end users, Windows is not "hell". It's what they're used to and comfortable with. Your calling it "windows hell" is based on other attributes that they don't care about. You need to provide something better than what they currently have to be taken at all seriously.
I just went and renamed a DLL file in Office 2003. When I tried to launch the program, the installer automatically started and began a repair process.
I just went and renamed a DLL file in Adobe Photoshop. "The application has failed to start because AXEDOMCore.dll was not found. Re-installing the application may fix this problem."
I just went and renamed a DLL file in FileZilla. "The application has failed to start because mingwm10.dll was not found. Re-installing the application may fix this problem."
Generally (no, it's not always the case), Windows strikes a pretty good balance when it comes to telling the user what they need to know when it comes to simple problems, but making the advanced information available when there's a chance it might help (like referencing an instruction and module that attempts an invalid memory access, for example).
I note that you neatly try to spin away from your contention that Microsoft can't and doesn't release products on non-x86 hardware. Good on you.
If netbooks continue growing in popularity as they are and Linux keeps its share, then yeah, maybe. (Although there are some problems with that. PopCap's games in particular are still largely done with DirectDraw, which a netbook should have no trouble with, but a lot of "2D" games are being done more and more with 3D to enable effects and the like. Netbooks may not have the horses for some of them, though most should be okay.)
You need the market share before you get the developers, though.
And you miss my point. PopCap doesn't release for Linux because there's no market. You aren't making a market with what you say above and you aren't reducing the pains-in-the-ass of developing a Linux port.
I am reminded of Johnathan Blow's attempt to port Braid to Linux and the myriad pains in the ass that followed.
While your post makes a lot of sense, you miss one thing: techies are users too. Different types of users prefer different types of user interfaces.
Yes, but they are not the kind of users we are talking about here. In fact, I almost don't call them "users" at all, mostly because they do considerably more than just "use" it, much like you would assign more technical acumen and a higher expectation of competence to a car mechanic instead of a student driver.
I also disagree that the current interfaces head toward the lowest common denominator. If that was the case, I would not make so much money off that lowest common denominator of user. ;-)
PopCap's framework is open source. See?
All yours. :)
You do know you can look at more information in crash dialogs in Windows, right? The usual Windows crash-error dialog box on XP shows something like "show more information about this error" and will show you the module that crashed and the offset, among other things.
The usual Windows crash-error dialog box on XP shows something like "show more information about this error" and will show you the module that crashed and the offset, among other things.
I asked in their IRC when it happened, somebody said it was a known bug, so no, I didn't. I have no idea if they fixed it or not; I put XP back on the laptop. I'm thinking about trying OpenSuSE this time, though.
The fact that it's a bug (and yes, all software has bugs, everybody knows that) does not detract from the fact that Ubuntu's restricted device manager does not work in some pretty common configurations. I fixed it by dropping to the CLI, but that kind of ruins the point.
The games market is already entrenched on Windows; games require a lot of time and effort, especially porting to other platforms--like it or not, the infrastructure for games is not very good, and it's a hell of a lot harder for developers accustomed to DirectX to go to the assorted mess of similar-and-nowhere-near-equivalent Linux APIs. OpenGL just does not equal, Direct3D in developer friendliness and ease of use. Audio libraries under Linux are a mess. And input is a little sketchy--doable, but a pain in the ass. DirectX makes the moderately difficult and annoying things relatively easy and the hard things doable. It's not perfect, but the OSS community could learn a lot from Microsoft in that capacity.
(I personally attribute DirectX's user-friendliness to Microsoft doing something that OSS rarely does: listen to consumers. "Write a patch if you don't like it" doesn't fly if you want adoption.)
Good middleware would help with this, but I'm not aware of any modern cross-platform middleware on Linux that's cheap/free, favorably licensed to proprietary developers, and provide similar perf on Linux as to Windows or consoles. Ogre3D is the closest I know of and I personally like it a lot, but I don't know how well it holds up to the kind of professional development. (I'd love to know of any, though. Bonus points if it has bindings for .NET/Mono; I prefer using managed code for my high-level stuff where possible.)
You probably would see more general-purpose software where it's appropriate, though, I agree on that.