lots of things could keep this down. i'm wondering if their "upgrade" was an emergency last ditch effort to fix things. i'm betting that this will all come down to a bad piece of hardware/software which has a failure mode that is protocol correct (remember the zost cost route stuff from way back?). goes back to the old "your secondary systems should be different location, different hardware, and different vendors (e.g. if you use sun, fail to dec/hp/etc). of course many companies will whine that the QA cost is too high:) the sad thing is that they don't seem to be willing to take public responsibility for the failure, much like an auction company that seems to point blame at everyone except themselves.
Look into postfix, it actually does a very good job of utilizing MP systems. the trick is to have many processes loosely managed which communicate with eachother (rather similar to a multithreaded design, all in where you share the ram, really).
um, you are quite wrong. My dual celeron 450/100 machine will back me up with this. It works, and works WELL. you need to unmess up the glue logic which intel left disconnected so that one wouldn't use their celeron in dual mode.
I was about to mention that one could take a barebones distribution of BSD as an example of what you need for a small distribution. Other examples would include going back and looking at the old MCC distributions. otherwise consider what tasks you need done:
*cough* you mean DARPA, the D (for defense) was later dropped to help public relations. Can't forget that the military was a big player in the development of the net.
the point is that one buys a cpu today to use against today's software. in two to three years the cpu market will be very different than today and the merced III and amd k9 will make the lil-ol' p-III look like a toy.
besides, in three years, the 3d accel boards will offload everything anyhow;)
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lots of things could keep this down. i'm wondering if their "upgrade" was an emergency last ditch effort to fix things. i'm betting that this will all come down to a bad piece of hardware/software which has a failure mode that is protocol correct (remember the zost cost route stuff from way back?). goes back to the old "your secondary systems should be different location, different hardware, and different vendors (e.g. if you use sun, fail to dec/hp/etc). of course many companies will whine that the QA cost is too high :) the sad thing is that they don't seem to be willing to take public responsibility for the failure, much like an auction company that seems to point blame at everyone except themselves.
Look into postfix, it actually does a very good job of utilizing MP systems. the trick is to have many processes loosely managed which communicate with eachother (rather similar to a multithreaded design, all in where you share the ram, really).
um, you are quite wrong. My dual celeron 450/100
machine will back me up with this. It works,
and works WELL. you need to unmess up the
glue logic which intel left disconnected
so that one wouldn't use their celeron in
dual mode.
so shoudl this be changed?
I was about to mention that one could take
a barebones distribution of BSD as an
example of what you need for a small
distribution. Other examples would include
going back and looking at the old MCC
distributions. otherwise consider
what tasks you need done:
* a shell (sh compatible preferably)
* shell utils (GNU)
* fdisk
* ext2 utils (mkfs, fsck)
* editor (vi and/or emacs)
* network utils (ifconfig, route, telnet, ping)
* inetd/xinetd/etc
* network server daemons (telnetd, samba, httpd,etc)
* mail system (qmail, sendmail, postfix)
* shared libraries (libc/glibc)
* compiler/linker/assembler (gcc+binutils+.a's)
* xwindows (xfree)
that would be roughly what i would start
with, and it shouldn't be that big.
*cough* you mean DARPA, the D (for defense)
was later dropped to help public relations.
Can't forget that the military was
a big player in the development of the net.
the point is that one buys a cpu today to use against today's software. in two to three years the cpu market will be very different than today and the merced III and amd k9 will make the lil-ol' p-III look like a toy.
;)
besides, in three years, the 3d accel boards will offload everything anyhow