The things is, nobody seems to have reported on this investigation and trial until its conclusion, which suggests non-standard reporting restrictions were imposed.
What were they, and why?
I fully support the normal reporting restrictions but don't like secret courts. I want to know what went on here.
My cynical interpretation is that there are multiple warrants. This one was created and used as one or more of the others could result in a sentence for which the UK would have to refuse to extradite.
The rest is translating magnitude, and I think 5000TB is easier to translate for people because they're more likely to go "Oh shit, that's like 5000 of my laptops" whereas with 5PB they're going to be, "oh, another made up word".
I mean, it's 0.00004 zettabits, which incidentally is enough storage space for the DRM on the complete works of Disney since 1974.
Yeah, while the shared image was highly amusing it also entirely failed to acknowledge the difference between an algorithm and the code that implements it.
Even with Google taking most of the market there are multiple free-to-use maps available on the internet and on mobile devices.
I used one of them to circumnavigate the world. It had better offline support than Google Maps and the internet link wasn't so good in the Conflict Islands.
Donald Trump is now 100% in charge of the Justice Department
Sure. That's why the US justice administration have spent the last two years trying to prove he illegally colluded with Russia.
Get a fucking grip.
You want to go back in time and somehow blame Obama because Trump can do no wrong.
You're the person trying to pin this all to a single US president. I haven't even fucking mentioned Obama. Just what the fuck is so wrong with you that you have to pretend people said shit in order to justify your own delusions.
The decision to pull the first trigger was made March 8, 2018, when the indictment was filed with the court
They collated the evidence, translated it into an indictment, reviewed it, assured it would get through a Grand Jury, validated its legality and completed all of the paperwork on 8th March 2018?
No.
That indictment gained life months, probably years beforehand. The date it was filed in court was way way into the process.
It wasn't my conspiracy theory and since Assange has spent most of those ten years in political asylum no, he could not have been "snatched up" (without causing a major international incident).
But that is not what happened. Assange was snatched up today
within hours of his asylum ending, because the US already had the extradition paperwork ready, because they've been preparing it for the best part of a decade.
Maybe Trump could have vetoed it, but he sure as fuck didn't need to initiate anything.
The mood on Assange here on Slashdot has suspiciously shifted to "he deserves to be jailed".
You really think that? Almost everybody suggesting a prison sentence is needed is referring to the UK law he broke.
I'm seeing very little to no support for locking him up in the US. You seem to be paranoid, agenda pushing or just fucking terrible at assessing written information.
When the Mueller report is published in full, unredacted, then you can be that smarmy.
Shit, is that the new narrative?
As someone not in the US or Russia can't you cunts just fucking give it a fucking break and talk about something other than Russian fucking collusion for once?
While you're at it stop interfering with political campaigns in other countries. Fucking Obama trying to fucking skew the UK referendum being one of the more overt attempts of recent times.
Assange's arrest proves once and for all that the rape charges were always a farce, that it was always a pretext to get Assange into US custody
Sadly no, it's quite possible that the rape charges had a grounded basis in reality and that there were also plans by America to seek extradition.
Today's events have however addressed the allegations that people fearing an extradition attempt by the US are conspiracy theorists. They may or may not have been but they were clearly bloody right.
It's obvious that journalism needs new economic models, but WikiLeaks is NOT one of them
That's because the need for something like Wikileaks has almost nothing to do with actual journalism, let alone economic models for journalism.
Having read several books about WikiLeaks, I think the underlying problem was the lack of a viable economic model.
I disagree. I think the economic model was always going to be a challenge but I do not think it drove the destructive behaviours that caused so many of the problems Wikileaks and the people around it faced.
Disappointed but not surprised that I couldn't find any substantive comments here on Slashdot
Disappointed that you added to the noise level by posting something substantial but not substantive.
I don't think that's strictly required unless the extradition is challenged by the person being extradited, but I'm feeling quite confident that in this instance a challenge will be made.
So Uberbah's point was very valid and I regret to inform you that despite his username he's not the one looking like a dipshit.
Leaving aside the decade of comments he's made, public appearances he's made, actions he's taken, public perception, attacks by people that dislike him and any medical diagnosis, he was explicitly called a narcissist in court today by a qualified and respected judge.
I think that qualifies somewhat above the bar of
There is not the slightest evidence
And if there were, it would not have the slightest bearing on his public behaviour.
Logic fail. His public behaviour is amongst the evidence of narcissism. If A because B, then B leads to A.
That doesn't mean that A is because B, but we're not discussing hard reality here, we're discussing 'slightest evidence' and perception is a form of evidence.
Now that's just utter fucking bullshit. I'm not even talking about shit like Abu Ghraib, in Guantanamo it was explicit US policy to torture prisoners of war.
He has broken no US law that he could be subject to.
I think it'll be a few years yet before we get a definitive answer to that one.
About the only way out would be to present evidence of kidnapping or being forced to skip bail by others by threats or duress
I strongly suspect the primary reason is due to behind held in prison (on remand or otherwise) and the prison services failing to meet their obligations to bring you to court.
It's irrelevant whether he gets a judicial sentence anyway. I think he will, but he'll be held on remand awaiting the inevitable appeals against extradition anyway.
Are we talking about the very same judicial "system" that slaps violent offenders on the wrist while criminalizing the act of referring to a guy in a dress as "a guy in a dress?"
Yes. Meanwhile it's perfectly possible to find specific instances of the law and how it's applied to be distasteful, wrong or frankly fucking terrible, while at the same time also greatly supporting the rule of law including aspects such as "jumping bail is a very serious offence".
By the way, in less than ten words you've revealed more about your own character and intellect than you could possibly imagine...
Yeah, he's revealed that he understands complexity, nuance and the importance of the rule of law. If only you'd been able to do the same.
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The things is, nobody seems to have reported on this investigation and trial until its conclusion, which suggests non-standard reporting restrictions were imposed.
What were they, and why?
I fully support the normal reporting restrictions but don't like secret courts. I want to know what went on here.
My cynical interpretation is that there are multiple warrants. This one was created and used as one or more of the others could result in a sentence for which the UK would have to refuse to extradite.
Could be worse. I have to declare as a sole trader and fill in a tax return this year because of my £23 of foreign income.
There is one significant digit - 5.
The rest is translating magnitude, and I think 5000TB is easier to translate for people because they're more likely to go "Oh shit, that's like 5000 of my laptops" whereas with 5PB they're going to be, "oh, another made up word".
I mean, it's 0.00004 zettabits, which incidentally is enough storage space for the DRM on the complete works of Disney since 1974.
Yeah, while the shared image was highly amusing it also entirely failed to acknowledge the difference between an algorithm and the code that implements it.
One of those is really easy to write.
Nope, still making no sense.
I can only assume that you realised you couldn't actually engage with me at an intellectual level.
Ooh, you're so edgy.
I think. I mean, I still don't know what the fuck you're on about.
What a cock.
Even with Google taking most of the market there are multiple free-to-use maps available on the internet and on mobile devices.
I used one of them to circumnavigate the world. It had better offline support than Google Maps and the internet link wasn't so good in the Conflict Islands.
While I do agree with you, I will point out a benefit paper maps do offer.
Bloody good battery life.
Donald Trump is now 100% in charge of the Justice Department
Sure. That's why the US justice administration have spent the last two years trying to prove he illegally colluded with Russia.
Get a fucking grip.
You want to go back in time and somehow blame Obama because Trump can do no wrong.
You're the person trying to pin this all to a single US president. I haven't even fucking mentioned Obama. Just what the fuck is so wrong with you that you have to pretend people said shit in order to justify your own delusions.
Seek medical help.
I have no idea what you mean by this comment. I've seen you post it elsewhere and it was equally meaningless there too.
Is this some meme you've invented but forgotten to explain?
You probably don't even recognise the irony of posting this after complaining about a lack of substantive comments.
The decision to pull the first trigger was made March 8, 2018, when the indictment was filed with the court
They collated the evidence, translated it into an indictment, reviewed it, assured it would get through a Grand Jury, validated its legality and completed all of the paperwork on 8th March 2018?
No.
That indictment gained life months, probably years beforehand. The date it was filed in court was way way into the process.
It wasn't my conspiracy theory and since Assange has spent most of those ten years in political asylum no, he could not have been "snatched up" (without causing a major international incident).
But that is not what happened. Assange was snatched up today
within hours of his asylum ending, because the US already had the extradition paperwork ready, because they've been preparing it for the best part of a decade.
Maybe Trump could have vetoed it, but he sure as fuck didn't need to initiate anything.
The mood on Assange here on Slashdot has suspiciously shifted to "he deserves to be jailed".
You really think that? Almost everybody suggesting a prison sentence is needed is referring to the UK law he broke.
I'm seeing very little to no support for locking him up in the US. You seem to be paranoid, agenda pushing or just fucking terrible at assessing written information.
When the Mueller report is published in full, unredacted, then you can be that smarmy.
Shit, is that the new narrative?
As someone not in the US or Russia can't you cunts just fucking give it a fucking break and talk about something other than Russian fucking collusion for once?
While you're at it stop interfering with political campaigns in other countries. Fucking Obama trying to fucking skew the UK referendum being one of the more overt attempts of recent times.
I'm confused how a detention can be arbitrary when there was no detention at all.
They claim that holding him in isolation in Wandsworth was 'abitrary' but that detention ended several years before their statement.
Shit like this makes the UN Human Rights Council look nearly as farcical as appointing Saudi Arabia as its chair did.
International credibility: Zero.
Assange's arrest proves once and for all that the rape charges were always a farce, that it was always a pretext to get Assange into US custody
Sadly no, it's quite possible that the rape charges had a grounded basis in reality and that there were also plans by America to seek extradition.
Today's events have however addressed the allegations that people fearing an extradition attempt by the US are conspiracy theorists. They may or may not have been but they were clearly bloody right.
It's obvious that journalism needs new economic models, but WikiLeaks is NOT one of them
That's because the need for something like Wikileaks has almost nothing to do with actual journalism, let alone economic models for journalism.
Having read several books about WikiLeaks, I think the underlying problem was the lack of a viable economic model.
I disagree. I think the economic model was always going to be a challenge but I do not think it drove the destructive behaviours that caused so many of the problems Wikileaks and the people around it faced.
Disappointed but not surprised that I couldn't find any substantive comments here on Slashdot
Disappointed that you added to the noise level by posting something substantial but not substantive.
He's not a child throwing a tantrum, he's being railroaded
These are not mutually exclusive.
The UK will hold an extradition hearing.
I don't think that's strictly required unless the extradition is challenged by the person being extradited, but I'm feeling quite confident that in this instance a challenge will be made.
So Uberbah's point was very valid and I regret to inform you that despite his username he's not the one looking like a dipshit.
evidence that Assange is a narcissist.
Leaving aside the decade of comments he's made, public appearances he's made, actions he's taken, public perception, attacks by people that dislike him and any medical diagnosis, he was explicitly called a narcissist in court today by a qualified and respected judge.
I think that qualifies somewhat above the bar of
There is not the slightest evidence
And if there were, it would not have the slightest bearing on his public behaviour.
Logic fail. His public behaviour is amongst the evidence of narcissism. If A because B, then B leads to A.
That doesn't mean that A is because B, but we're not discussing hard reality here, we're discussing 'slightest evidence' and perception is a form of evidence.
We don't torture POW's or journalists.
Now that's just utter fucking bullshit. I'm not even talking about shit like Abu Ghraib, in Guantanamo it was explicit US policy to torture prisoners of war.
He has broken no US law that he could be subject to.
I think it'll be a few years yet before we get a definitive answer to that one.
About the only way out would be to present evidence of kidnapping or being forced to skip bail by others by threats or duress
I strongly suspect the primary reason is due to behind held in prison (on remand or otherwise) and the prison services failing to meet their obligations to bring you to court.
https://www.thebureauinvestiga...
Although you do get some comical excuses, such as "I'm worried about you prosecuting me" - https://courtnewsuk.co.uk/poli...
It's irrelevant whether he gets a judicial sentence anyway. I think he will, but he'll be held on remand awaiting the inevitable appeals against extradition anyway.
Not a chance he's going to get bail for those.
Are we talking about the very same judicial "system" that slaps violent offenders on the wrist while criminalizing the act of referring to a guy in a dress as "a guy in a dress?"
Yes. Meanwhile it's perfectly possible to find specific instances of the law and how it's applied to be distasteful, wrong or frankly fucking terrible, while at the same time also greatly supporting the rule of law including aspects such as "jumping bail is a very serious offence".
By the way, in less than ten words you've revealed more about your own character and intellect than you could possibly imagine...
Yeah, he's revealed that he understands complexity, nuance and the importance of the rule of law. If only you'd been able to do the same.