He could easily just make a website, and make an iPhone optimized version of it then.
And as far as mobile app stores go, he has plenty of other options. He can go to the Android store, or he can go to one of the ten billion other stores that sell Blackberry and WinMobile software. He is certainly not shut out of the mobile application market. Just one store found that his application was against their terms of service. Perhaps he should have read his dev agreement.
Why does everyone think that the suits against HTC are purely shots at Android? Does everyone here forget that Nokia started the whole thing by suing Apple first? Its just the start of a huge smartphone battle royale that all the major manufacturers are gonna get dragged down in.
No, its silly that Opera decided to completely abandon the UIG of the platform, and put their own thing in instead, which conflicts with every other application on the platform.
That's the problem. The user expects pinch-zoom to work like it does in Safari, and in every other iPhone app. Changing that behavior is unexpected, and is making the user learn a new mode of interaction, which only works in this one app.
I've seen quite a few people complaining, that it's not using the iPhone friendly pages, but... is that a valid complaint? I don't mean "suck it up", but if the webserver doesn't serve up the iPhone pages when Opera Mini on iPhone requests it, that's the server's fault. And to some extent having the server serve up the iPhone page only when Safari/Webkit on iPhone requests the regular page is silly as well. If you can detect Webkit on iPhone, you can probably detect any kind of mobile browser and serve up the mobile page for it. But I have neither a webserver nor an iPhone with Opera on it, so I can't tell you what kind of identifiers Opera Mini gives to the server.
A user is on an iPhone, they would expect an iPhone friendly page. They don't care they're on a different browser. Besides, shouldn't Opera's servers be able to detect that they've received a request from an iPhone, and then be able to retrieve the iPhone version of the page from the site?
And yet, at just about every iPhone dev conference, including the ones put on and hosted by Apple, there is always a track for making WebApps for iPhone.
Its even more than that; most mobile phones today that can browse the web with any decency don't have Flash either. Android doesn't have it right now.
Flash will probably never truly "die", in that it will be banished from the face of the web, and the place where it was salted so nothing can grow again. Its use on the web will greatly diminish, though, and many of the areas where it was shoehorned in will be replaced by better tools.
There's a difference between example or interview code ("Write a function to reverse a string"), and asking them to do part of the work, up front, for free. Anyone worth their salt will correctly balk when asked to do the latter.
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Some of that stuff is still around, but its not really in the General Purpose computing area. Look into amateur robotics, and lots of the little embedded systems featured on Hack A Day.
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Most of his compensation is in the form of stock options. Which can be a good idea, as it gives encouragement to run the company well, as opposed to just sitting around, collecting a paycheck, waiting for the golden parachute.
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1). On the Desktop, how is Windows 7 more open than OS X? Last time I saw, you could actually get the kernel source for OS X.
2). Someone hasn't looked at Windows Phone 7 (not series anymore, the person responsible for naming products has been sacked), and that Windows is going with a closed App Store model too. And even less customization of the UI.
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I believe he's talking about the iPad/iPhone system. So far, the only actual vulnerabilities and attacks on that platform have come when its jailbroken.
I dunno about that. I had an applet that would make my MacBook Pro make lightsaber sounds when I moved it around.
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And that's about when it started to really take off. That was one of the biggest booms for the iPod popularity, the others being adding Windows support (a necessary evil), and a color screen.
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You can redownload things you've already paid for.
Really? Try setting up an FM transmitter that can only reach within your state without FCC approval. I'm pretty sure the FCC will come down on you for it, and no cry of "State's Rights" will save you.
No, the biggest barrier to entry is getting that pile of cash to start with, and being able to tear up the roads to lay your tubes. Most franchise agreements were invalidated in 92 with the Cable Television Protection and Competition Act.
You must be incredibly stoned if you think that an average person can influence a corporation by buying their stock. Odds are you or I will never be able to buy enough Shell common stock to be able to have an influence on things.
You are an anomaly. The vast majority of Americans have access to only one ISP. Only one ISP in the area tends to mean that ISP has at least a natural monopoly.
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He could easily just make a website, and make an iPhone optimized version of it then.
And as far as mobile app stores go, he has plenty of other options. He can go to the Android store, or he can go to one of the ten billion other stores that sell Blackberry and WinMobile software. He is certainly not shut out of the mobile application market. Just one store found that his application was against their terms of service. Perhaps he should have read his dev agreement.
Apple has proven themselves litigious assholes over the last few years
No more than anyone else.
Why does everyone think that the suits against HTC are purely shots at Android? Does everyone here forget that Nokia started the whole thing by suing Apple first? Its just the start of a huge smartphone battle royale that all the major manufacturers are gonna get dragged down in.
Maybe once the Courier becomes real, and not just a bunch of mock-ups, then it'd be more worthwhile to talk about.
Does he care? Does he miss Flash? If not, then it doesn't matter.
No, its silly that Opera decided to completely abandon the UIG of the platform, and put their own thing in instead, which conflicts with every other application on the platform.
That's the problem. The user expects pinch-zoom to work like it does in Safari, and in every other iPhone app. Changing that behavior is unexpected, and is making the user learn a new mode of interaction, which only works in this one app.
I've seen quite a few people complaining, that it's not using the iPhone friendly pages, but ... is that a valid complaint? I don't mean "suck it up", but if the webserver doesn't serve up the iPhone pages when Opera Mini on iPhone requests it, that's the server's fault. And to some extent having the server serve up the iPhone page only when Safari/Webkit on iPhone requests the regular page is silly as well. If you can detect Webkit on iPhone, you can probably detect any kind of mobile browser and serve up the mobile page for it. But I have neither a webserver nor an iPhone with Opera on it, so I can't tell you what kind of identifiers Opera Mini gives to the server.
A user is on an iPhone, they would expect an iPhone friendly page. They don't care they're on a different browser. Besides, shouldn't Opera's servers be able to detect that they've received a request from an iPhone, and then be able to retrieve the iPhone version of the page from the site?
And Opera Mobile is only available on Nokia phones and Windows Mobile. No Android or Blackberry versions available.
And yet, at just about every iPhone dev conference, including the ones put on and hosted by Apple, there is always a track for making WebApps for iPhone.
Its even more than that; most mobile phones today that can browse the web with any decency don't have Flash either. Android doesn't have it right now.
Flash will probably never truly "die", in that it will be banished from the face of the web, and the place where it was salted so nothing can grow again. Its use on the web will greatly diminish, though, and many of the areas where it was shoehorned in will be replaced by better tools.
Not "all smartphones". I just checked Opera's site, and Opera Mobile is only available for Symbian and Windows Mobile. No Android, no Blackberry.
There's a difference between example or interview code ("Write a function to reverse a string"), and asking them to do part of the work, up front, for free. Anyone worth their salt will correctly balk when asked to do the latter.
Some of that stuff is still around, but its not really in the General Purpose computing area. Look into amateur robotics, and lots of the little embedded systems featured on Hack A Day.
Most of his compensation is in the form of stock options. Which can be a good idea, as it gives encouragement to run the company well, as opposed to just sitting around, collecting a paycheck, waiting for the golden parachute.
1). On the Desktop, how is Windows 7 more open than OS X? Last time I saw, you could actually get the kernel source for OS X.
2). Someone hasn't looked at Windows Phone 7 (not series anymore, the person responsible for naming products has been sacked), and that Windows is going with a closed App Store model too. And even less customization of the UI.
I believe he's talking about the iPad/iPhone system. So far, the only actual vulnerabilities and attacks on that platform have come when its jailbroken.
I dunno about that. I had an applet that would make my MacBook Pro make lightsaber sounds when I moved it around.
And that's about when it started to really take off. That was one of the biggest booms for the iPod popularity, the others being adding Windows support (a necessary evil), and a color screen.
You can redownload things you've already paid for.
Really? Try setting up an FM transmitter that can only reach within your state without FCC approval. I'm pretty sure the FCC will come down on you for it, and no cry of "State's Rights" will save you.
No, the biggest barrier to entry is getting that pile of cash to start with, and being able to tear up the roads to lay your tubes. Most franchise agreements were invalidated in 92 with the Cable Television Protection and Competition Act.
We don't believe you should have to pay extra to get around filtering.
You must be incredibly stoned if you think that an average person can influence a corporation by buying their stock. Odds are you or I will never be able to buy enough Shell common stock to be able to have an influence on things.
You are an anomaly. The vast majority of Americans have access to only one ISP. Only one ISP in the area tends to mean that ISP has at least a natural monopoly.