There is no chance of Israel (or even the US) creating a non-Muslim united empire across the Middle East.
That doesn't mean the war-monger Netanyahu (and by extension, his coat-carriers in the US) won't vaporize half the Middle East giving it their best shot.
In the short term: more profit to owners that have an operational advantage.
In the long term: lower prices for goods as those advantages are competed away.
American worker productivity went up every year from 1945 to 1995. Do you think prices went down for the goods they made during that period, or did they go up?
The difference is only a matter of degree of automation.
Yes, of course. And the degree of automation is exactly what we're talking about here. The question is, "What degree of automation in the work place will make the most people's lives better?"
I was under the impression that incomes across the board have risen.
Ah, but we're not talking about "across the board", are we?
We're talking about what robots have done to existing workers in specific industries.
And even if we were talking about "across the board", the real CPI is much closer to 10-12% than what is reported when you count the actual cost of education, health care, food, etc which more than triples any "across the board" increases in incomes for working people, wiping out any gains and leaving them further in the hole.
I don't give a shit about robots one way or the other. I just want to hear about how they're going to make a large percentage of people's lives better before I take out the pom-poms and start cheering.
The invention of the automobile simultaneously made life much cushier for humans (try getting around in a horse-drawn stagecoach for a while), and created millions of jobs that previously didn't exist (from repairing brakes, to paving roads, transporting fuels, and doing R&D of improved airbag designs).
I'm not talking about automobiles, I'm talking about robots.
You know all those millions of jobs you were talking about? Nearly a million of them were good paying jobs making those cars and parts for those cars in factories that were not automated. In 1970, when automation started entering the auto plants, the starting salary at one of those auto plants was about $17/hr. And now, with all the automation and robotics in those auto plants, the starting salary is $13/hr. And I'm not adjusting for inflation. Do you know any other job that pays less today than it did in 1970?
So here's where we start: You show us statistics on how robots have improved the lives for a large percentage of regular people and then we can talk.
It took all of 20 seconds watching Wu's mainstream media tours to notice the same giant smudge in the background over and over. One that was trivially identified from the many pictures she had voluntarily posted of her workspace.
Forensic smudge-reading on 8chan. You guys are a trip.
I found a photo of the Macon-Bibb County Sheriff, and I'm not sure he's someone I want in charge of a fleet of drones that are each as big as a king-sized bed.
.if you can convince enough people to follow you that you'd be able to win a war, then you'll probably be able to convince enough people to vote for you without a war.
But I spent a fuckton of money on this here firearm with "Don't Thead On Me" engraved on the receiver, and I aim to kill me something.
[Note: It was supposed to read "Don't Tread On Me", but I let Jimbo from gas station do the etching because of his experience doing prison tattoos and he got to smoking meth. It's still a sweet rifle, though. I may let him turn all the letters into Olde English so then nobody will be able to tell the difference between an "h" and an "r". It's a good thing I didn't let him go ahead and draw the coiled up snake too, because the one tattooed to his belly looks like a goddamn pile of turds.]
Not a great example, but I'm sure others can think of a better one.
Let's hope so. Because there's no question that automation has lowered the incomes of working people. Robots devalue labor, so if the goal is to make people poorer, it's working.
and I'll say it again - technology INCREASES jobs, never decreases it - over the long term.
If robots don't cause total human working hours to decline, then what the fuck good are they? Are we really automating the work force so people can work more? If so, then please stop with the robots.
Or, maybe we can just dispense with the "robots will make human lives easier" BS and just go straight to "robots will increase profits for people who already have all the fucking money".
Rule of thumb: If there's a human endeavor that doesn't make human lives better, then it is not worth doing.
I hadn't heard this claim before and am curious if it is true, but her Wikipedia bio says nothing about it and Googling her supposed former name only turns up sources of dubious veracity
When you're a movement all about ethics in media, sources of dubious veracity are plenty good enough to smear your enemies.
For example, you've stated that you were so scared that you moved out of your home, but a number of people were able to reconstruct the location of your various online broadcasts and establish rather conclusively that they were all made from your home.
The problem with what you're saying is that it makes accusations tantamount to guilt.
Not accusations, demonstrations. When in every single thread having anything remotely to do with GamerGaters being assholes, we see GamerGaters providing extensive amounts of evidence that they are in fact assholes, it sets the stage for "If it walks like a duck..."
It's been many many months since there have needed to be any accusations. The proof is in the figgy pudding you all leave behind wherever you go.
PopeRatzo, is it true that you survived for an entire year eating nothing but dog shit and used anal dildos? You realize that ignoring the question or answering "No" is only proof that you spent a year eating dog and used anal dildos. That... or you're a complete fucking idiot who can't think before he posts retarded drivel.
Completely proving my point. This young man will go on to wonder why anyone would think he's an asshole.
No, but it will end the suspense of when it's going to start.
Isn't that like saying getting hit by a truck will end the suspense of when you're going to die?
"Ending the suspense" of when WWIII is going to start is not really a desirable outcome unless you're a religious fanatic and you're waiting for Armageddon.
And unlike an asshole, a non-asshole would respond to such an accusation...how?
If someone isn't an asshole, they generally don't have to go around assuring other people that they're not an asshole. And if you feel you have to explain to others that you're not an asshole, despite appearances, then you should ask yourself, "Why does everyone say I'm an asshole? Is it possible that they're right?" Doesn't that make sense?
It's like when Richard Nixon addressed the nation to say, "I am not a crook", thereby verifying his crookedness, because who but a crook has to assure people that they're not a crook?
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That doesn't mean the war-monger Netanyahu (and by extension, his coat-carriers in the US) won't vaporize half the Middle East giving it their best shot.
American worker productivity went up every year from 1945 to 1995. Do you think prices went down for the goods they made during that period, or did they go up?
And the benefit of the increased productivity to the workers is...?
Yes, of course. And the degree of automation is exactly what we're talking about here. The question is, "What degree of automation in the work place will make the most people's lives better?"
http://www.merriam-webster.com...
robot
robot \r-bät
: a real or imaginary machine that is controlled by a computer and is often made to look like a human or animal
: a machine that can do the work of a person and that works automatically or is controlled by a computer
We're not talking about increased productivity. We're talking about longer working hours. Not the same thing.
Ah, but we're not talking about "across the board", are we?
We're talking about what robots have done to existing workers in specific industries.
And even if we were talking about "across the board", the real CPI is much closer to 10-12% than what is reported when you count the actual cost of education, health care, food, etc which more than triples any "across the board" increases in incomes for working people, wiping out any gains and leaving them further in the hole.
I don't give a shit about robots one way or the other. I just want to hear about how they're going to make a large percentage of people's lives better before I take out the pom-poms and start cheering.
I'm not talking about automobiles, I'm talking about robots.
You know all those millions of jobs you were talking about? Nearly a million of them were good paying jobs making those cars and parts for those cars in factories that were not automated. In 1970, when automation started entering the auto plants, the starting salary at one of those auto plants was about $17/hr. And now, with all the automation and robotics in those auto plants, the starting salary is $13/hr. And I'm not adjusting for inflation. Do you know any other job that pays less today than it did in 1970?
So here's where we start: You show us statistics on how robots have improved the lives for a large percentage of regular people and then we can talk.
Forensic smudge-reading on 8chan. You guys are a trip.
Hell, I don't need my Bushmaster for that. I deal with cockroaches with my S&W Model 629.
I found a photo of the Macon-Bibb County Sheriff, and I'm not sure he's someone I want in charge of a fleet of drones that are each as big as a king-sized bed.
http://img4.wikia.nocookie.net...
I can verify this. I watched a documentary about that place:
http://static.stereogum.com/bl...
Are you counting the meth labs?
But I spent a fuckton of money on this here firearm with "Don't Thead On Me" engraved on the receiver, and I aim to kill me something.
[Note: It was supposed to read "Don't Tread On Me", but I let Jimbo from gas station do the etching because of his experience doing prison tattoos and he got to smoking meth. It's still a sweet rifle, though. I may let him turn all the letters into Olde English so then nobody will be able to tell the difference between an "h" and an "r". It's a good thing I didn't let him go ahead and draw the coiled up snake too, because the one tattooed to his belly looks like a goddamn pile of turds.]
Let's hope so. Because there's no question that automation has lowered the incomes of working people. Robots devalue labor, so if the goal is to make people poorer, it's working.
If robots don't cause total human working hours to decline, then what the fuck good are they? Are we really automating the work force so people can work more? If so, then please stop with the robots.
Or, maybe we can just dispense with the "robots will make human lives easier" BS and just go straight to "robots will increase profits for people who already have all the fucking money".
Rule of thumb: If there's a human endeavor that doesn't make human lives better, then it is not worth doing.
That's because no one would take you seriously. You could say I'm an Imperial Trooper too, but that's not going to put a helmet on my head.
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When you're a movement all about ethics in media, sources of dubious veracity are plenty good enough to smear your enemies.
That's not creepy at all.
Not accusations, demonstrations. When in every single thread having anything remotely to do with GamerGaters being assholes, we see GamerGaters providing extensive amounts of evidence that they are in fact assholes, it sets the stage for "If it walks like a duck..."
It's been many many months since there have needed to be any accusations. The proof is in the figgy pudding you all leave behind wherever you go.
Do you understand my point?
Completely proving my point. This young man will go on to wonder why anyone would think he's an asshole.
Isn't that like saying getting hit by a truck will end the suspense of when you're going to die?
"Ending the suspense" of when WWIII is going to start is not really a desirable outcome unless you're a religious fanatic and you're waiting for Armageddon.
And don't forget Ronald Reagan sent arms to Iran. Not only that, he sent them a cake, baked in the shape of a key.
Apparently, by baking Iran a cake, Reagan was demonstrating that he had no religious objections to terrorism.
I agree, which is why I support boycott, divestiture and sanctions against Israel.
The states also require that there be both bofa and updog.
If someone isn't an asshole, they generally don't have to go around assuring other people that they're not an asshole. And if you feel you have to explain to others that you're not an asshole, despite appearances, then you should ask yourself, "Why does everyone say I'm an asshole? Is it possible that they're right?" Doesn't that make sense?
It's like when Richard Nixon addressed the nation to say, "I am not a crook", thereby verifying his crookedness, because who but a crook has to assure people that they're not a crook?