I see what you're saying. But isn't having that surplus power sold off to charge cars and then the cars using it to commute a form of load leveling? If cars charge overnight, that's when electricity use is ordinarily low. I'm sure there's a lot I'm not taking into consideration, plus I've been drinking since 11am, so I don't have a clue.
. Utilities are desperate to find an efficient way to store surplus power generated when supply is higher than demand, so that it can then be released when demand is higher than supply.
If more cars were electric, the utilities could store all that surplus power in the cars' batteries, no? Which the cars will then use during the next day's commute.
Theater and smoke signals. Which US enforcement agency do *you* think believes that the law applies to them?
Yes, this is nothing but theater. If you look at the list of legislators' names, you'll see it's a few Democrats and some Republicans who are in districts that are expected to turn blue in November. Ted Poe from Texas is retiring.
This bill will not get out of committee and will never come up for a vote. Since the Patriot Act, no party in power will ever give up a lever of power.
This implies that coal or oil produce ~5 times the "pollutants" of natural gas. If you're talking about carbon dioxide, this is false.
I'm not just talking about carbon dioxide. I'm referring to the entire soup of pollutants that coal and coal mining produces.
This discussion wasn't about the amount of carbon dioxide created, because if it was, the figure for solar panels would be 0. When a solar panel is producing electricity, it's not emitting any CO2 at all. It has to do with the pollutants released over the entire lifecycle, including manufacture, getting the raw materials, etc etc. If you treat coal the same way, it is by far the filthiest, by a long shot.
It's strange that places that have the highest distrust of government also are cool with the government executing people. Just yesterday, there was a story of a guy who was on death row for 16 years before he was completely exonerated. I would think that just one of those cases would be enough so that anyone with a moral compass would oppose the death penalty. But if there's one thing we know, it's that Americans love seeing people get kilt and they love feeling self-righteous, so that makes for a lethal combination. People in red states seem to love giving their governments the ultimate power over life and death.
Fortunately, there's absolutely nothing in Oklahoma, Alabama, or Mississippi that anyone here would want, so this only affects the poor folks who live there. But it does explain why they're at the bottom of almost every state ranking of quality of life.
They are referring specifically to the context you added, namely that this kind of lying and deception is unique to this president.
What makes Trump's dishonesty unique is the quality and sheer quantity of the dishonesty. He's not saying, "You will still be able to see your doctor", he's saying, "Doctor's don't exist and if they did, I would just dictate the diagnosis to them".
See, the thing about a dishonesty at this level from a beloved (by some, including apparently you) media figure is at some point, his supporters actually become hostile to the truth. I mean, if Trump is dishonest all of the time, then there must be something wrong about anyone who is not, am I right?
So, yeah, it's refreshing to have a president that is so obviously full of shit that the rest of you take note.
Exhibit 1. I rest my case, your honor. Trump has broken you, your moral compass, and your ability to discern. You are the prototypical citizen of the post-Trump civic reality.
The environmental cost of producing solar cells virtually negates the green benefits for many years.
Not even close. Even the dirtiest types of solar panels, the thin-film kind, only produce about 1/10th of the pollutants as the next closest fossil fuel, which is natural gas. Compared to coal or oil, it's closer to 1/50th.
If you think this administration is the first one to practice intentional disinformation and lying to the American public as a policy you haven't been paying attention.
I don't think this administration is practicing intentional disinformation and lying to the American public as a policy. I think they're doing it as a strategy, to make the truth irrelevant. There's a big difference, and it's all about the sheer volume of lies. And not just lies about important things, but about trivial things (crowd size, for example). Lies about things that nobody really cares about.
It's a literal assault on the truth, and it's unprecedented.
people will be much more likely to believe your blatant falsehoods.
It's not my "blatant falsehoods" that are at issue. It's the blatant falsehoods of Trump, his administration, his congressional quislings, the Republican Party, the Internet Research Agency, and the Kremlin that are important. I'm just a guy on the Internet. I can't affect your world.
As a gesture of generosity, I'm providing the link to a comprehensive list of the documented blatant falsehoods that Trump and his administration have proferred since his inauguration. This is not my list. It was compiled by the Toronto Star and includes thorough documentation and citations:
And, in the same post, trying to spin the NYT as "neo-conservative"...dude, you're smokin' some good shit there.
I don't think you understand the term neo-conservative. It very specifically refers to an interventionist view of US foreign policy. And yes, the NYT has always been neo-conservative in its editorial policies.
Re your point 1: right, so girlfriends/wives desperately looking for bailbondsmen won't be able to easily find one. That CERTAINLY helps their lives already made shitty by their man in jail.
Yes, they will. If they do what anyone would do in that situation, simply Google "BAIL BONDS" on their phone, they will still get all the results for bail bonds. In fact, they'll get results for the bail bonds in their area.
Google isn't removing bail bonds from their search results, they're just saying they won't sell ads to them any more. So the first few results won't be paid ads, but they'll still get results.
To summarize: Google's decision will not make it any harder to find bail bonds. If you want, I can continue to repeat this until you understand the words that are coming out of my keyboard.
Well folks that sums it up. We no longer can question anyone's honesty because "Trump".
That's correct. Honesty no longer matters. Truth no longer matters. That's what the entire Trump presidency has been about: destroying norms, including the most basic ones about Americans hating serial liars and expecting honesty. The biggest inauguration ever. The hugest victory ever. I never paid that woman $130,000. I did, but I didn't know why. I met with the Russians to talk about adoption. I refused to enact sanction on Russia, even though they were in a law I signed, but there's no quid pro quo. I'm happy with my legal team. I hire the best people. I have full confidence in General Flynn. Obama was born in Kenya. I have a very good brain. Nobody respect women more than me. I watched Muslims celebrating in the streets of New Jersey after 9/11. I graduated top of my class at Wharton. I never spoke to any Russians. There is no evidence of collusion. It's all a witch hunt. The tax cuts hurt me financially.
I could go on. The Toronto Star has compiled a list of every falsehood Donald Trump has uttered since being sworn in. They update it every few weeks, and it looks like the last time was on April 22, 2018, so the list has almost certainly grown since then. That these were lies is irrefutable. It's not a matter of interpretation, or context. There is no other possible conclusion other than that we have entered into a post-truth era. What's true and who lies no longer matters. (FYI: The list is in reverse chronological with the newest shown first).
The difference is 2003 slides lead to engagement, 2018 slides lead to disengagement.
You think that allowing Iran to build a nuclear weapon, become more isolated and have the hardliners get back in power is going to lead to disengagement?
It's the same story as 2003, 2006, 2010 and 2014. We're going to bring peace to a Middle Eastern country by doing everything we can to fuck it up.
In 2003 a neocon was in office, in 2018 it isn't.
You don't get it. It doesn't matter who's in office here. It only matters who's in office in Israel. The intelligence and military apparatus of Israel wanted to keep the Iran deal in place. Netanyahu wants it destroyed to help him because like Trump he's facing all sorts of legal problems for himself, and his family. It's the tail wagging the hintele.
That's exactly what it says...."...that brought moderates to power in that country — was largely manufactured for the purpose for selling the deal". How is 'largely manufactured" not 'misrepresenting the true' an it's right there 'for selling deal'.
First, let's not be stingy with the quotes.
When you read the actual paragraph from the article, it sounds a lot less like "lying to the American people" than it does "putting a positive political spin on the events".
It's galling that a Trump supporter would dare to come here and complain about someone else's dishonesty. Trump has forever closed any possible argument about honesty.
"Rhodes’s innovative campaign to sell the Iran deal is likely to be a model for how future administrations explain foreign policy to Congress and the public. The way in which most Americans have heard the story of the Iran deal presented — that the Obama administration began seriously engaging with Iranian officials in 2013 in order to take advantage of a new political reality in Iran, which came about because of elections that brought moderates to power in that country — was largely manufactured for the purpose for selling the deal. Even where the particulars of that story are true, the implications that readers and viewers are encouraged to take away from those particulars are often misleading or false. "
Remember, the NY Times has always been a neo-conservative publication when it comes to foreign wars. They love wars in the Middle East. Remember Judith Miller? Tom Friedman? They literally wrote daily columns cheerleading for the invasion of Iraq. Why would anyone be surprised that they would promote a Likudnik perspective on the Iran Deal?
New York Times Magazine [nytimes.com] piece where Ben Rhodes explained how he led the administration’s efforts to misrepresent the truth in order “to sell” the JCPOA to the press.
Did you see the intel from Israel about WMDs in 2003?
The "intel from Israel" consisted of a PowerPoint presentation with a slide that said, "Iran is Cheating". You could change the word "Iran" to "Iraq" in everything that's been presented by Israel and you'd get an exact copy of the run-up to the Iraq War. Coincidentally, the people who are most keen to believe the "intel from Israel" are the exact same people who insisted that Saddam was hours away from being able to send a nuke to New York. It's been 15 years since Bush invaded Iraq and the Likudniks assume we've forgotten by now.
actually the Israeli military & intelligence establishment want to keep the deal (as do the US intelligence etc), but the Netnyahu government and political allies don't. For right wing domestic political reasons.
Yes, there are now indications that Likudnik billionaires like Adelson financed the hiring of Black Box. This is going to be a big story going forward.
It is certainly not treason, nor a violation of the Logan act, to look for mud about an opponent.
None of the people who Black Box snooped on were Trump's opponent. Neither of the two cited were running against Trump. If the purpose was to torpedo the Iran deal, then it's clearly a Logan violation.
The whole thing smacks of Mossad active measures to make sure there was no raprochement between the US and Iran and to install a useful idiot as President. Lots of countries that are not friends of the US were doing that at the time. It's like we're living in seasons 5, 6 & 7 of Homeland.
This is retarded. The bail industry is not "fueling mass incarceration", they're allowing people with limited funds to remain free instead of waiting in jail for months or years.
That's a different discussion entirely. The bail bond system is a horrible mess. Bonds are not set fairly, and there is terrible abuse. The entire system should be scrapped and something better should take its place.
I was addressing whether or not Google is somehow taking away people's access to bail bonds by not selling ads to these companies. I think we can agree that they are not. It's still going to be just as easy and convenient to get a bail bond if there are no ads. But now Google won't be profiting from bail bonds companies.
Don't be stupid.
Wow. Complaining about a lack of "trusted news authority" and then citing breitbart.com. That's stupid squared.
I see what you're saying. But isn't having that surplus power sold off to charge cars and then the cars using it to commute a form of load leveling? If cars charge overnight, that's when electricity use is ordinarily low. I'm sure there's a lot I'm not taking into consideration, plus I've been drinking since 11am, so I don't have a clue.
If more cars were electric, the utilities could store all that surplus power in the cars' batteries, no? Which the cars will then use during the next day's commute.
Maybe we should just block all phone calls coming from Mar-a-Lago and see if that fixes the problem.
The calls...THEY'RE COMING FROM INSIDE THE HOUSE!
It's not about the Klout score, it's about the girth.
Yes, this is nothing but theater. If you look at the list of legislators' names, you'll see it's a few Democrats and some Republicans who are in districts that are expected to turn blue in November. Ted Poe from Texas is retiring.
This bill will not get out of committee and will never come up for a vote. Since the Patriot Act, no party in power will ever give up a lever of power.
You are so close to a breakthrough. Don't give up.
I'm not just talking about carbon dioxide. I'm referring to the entire soup of pollutants that coal and coal mining produces.
This discussion wasn't about the amount of carbon dioxide created, because if it was, the figure for solar panels would be 0. When a solar panel is producing electricity, it's not emitting any CO2 at all. It has to do with the pollutants released over the entire lifecycle, including manufacture, getting the raw materials, etc etc. If you treat coal the same way, it is by far the filthiest, by a long shot.
That is correct, and it's what prisons are for.
"Excessive bail shall not be required, nor excessive fines imposed, nor cruel and unusual punishments inflicted." -- Amendment VIII
It's strange that places that have the highest distrust of government also are cool with the government executing people. Just yesterday, there was a story of a guy who was on death row for 16 years before he was completely exonerated. I would think that just one of those cases would be enough so that anyone with a moral compass would oppose the death penalty. But if there's one thing we know, it's that Americans love seeing people get kilt and they love feeling self-righteous, so that makes for a lethal combination. People in red states seem to love giving their governments the ultimate power over life and death.
Fortunately, there's absolutely nothing in Oklahoma, Alabama, or Mississippi that anyone here would want, so this only affects the poor folks who live there. But it does explain why they're at the bottom of almost every state ranking of quality of life.
What makes Trump's dishonesty unique is the quality and sheer quantity of the dishonesty. He's not saying, "You will still be able to see your doctor", he's saying, "Doctor's don't exist and if they did, I would just dictate the diagnosis to them".
See, the thing about a dishonesty at this level from a beloved (by some, including apparently you) media figure is at some point, his supporters actually become hostile to the truth. I mean, if Trump is dishonest all of the time, then there must be something wrong about anyone who is not, am I right?
Exhibit 1. I rest my case, your honor. Trump has broken you, your moral compass, and your ability to discern. You are the prototypical citizen of the post-Trump civic reality.
Not even close. Even the dirtiest types of solar panels, the thin-film kind, only produce about 1/10th of the pollutants as the next closest fossil fuel, which is natural gas. Compared to coal or oil, it's closer to 1/50th.
I don't think this administration is practicing intentional disinformation and lying to the American public as a policy. I think they're doing it as a strategy, to make the truth irrelevant. There's a big difference, and it's all about the sheer volume of lies. And not just lies about important things, but about trivial things (crowd size, for example). Lies about things that nobody really cares about.
It's a literal assault on the truth, and it's unprecedented.
It's not my "blatant falsehoods" that are at issue. It's the blatant falsehoods of Trump, his administration, his congressional quislings, the Republican Party, the Internet Research Agency, and the Kremlin that are important. I'm just a guy on the Internet. I can't affect your world.
As a gesture of generosity, I'm providing the link to a comprehensive list of the documented blatant falsehoods that Trump and his administration have proferred since his inauguration. This is not my list. It was compiled by the Toronto Star and includes thorough documentation and citations:
http://projects.thestar.com/do...
Yes, we were also told what "the truth was" back in 2003 when Israel was trying to get the US to invade Iraq.
How many times are you going to fall for the same BS?
I don't think you understand the term neo-conservative. It very specifically refers to an interventionist view of US foreign policy. And yes, the NYT has always been neo-conservative in its editorial policies.
https://www.globalresearch.ca/...
Yes, they will. If they do what anyone would do in that situation, simply Google "BAIL BONDS" on their phone, they will still get all the results for bail bonds. In fact, they'll get results for the bail bonds in their area.
Google isn't removing bail bonds from their search results, they're just saying they won't sell ads to them any more. So the first few results won't be paid ads, but they'll still get results.
To summarize: Google's decision will not make it any harder to find bail bonds. If you want, I can continue to repeat this until you understand the words that are coming out of my keyboard.
That's correct. Honesty no longer matters. Truth no longer matters. That's what the entire Trump presidency has been about: destroying norms, including the most basic ones about Americans hating serial liars and expecting honesty. The biggest inauguration ever. The hugest victory ever. I never paid that woman $130,000. I did, but I didn't know why. I met with the Russians to talk about adoption. I refused to enact sanction on Russia, even though they were in a law I signed, but there's no quid pro quo. I'm happy with my legal team. I hire the best people. I have full confidence in General Flynn. Obama was born in Kenya. I have a very good brain. Nobody respect women more than me. I watched Muslims celebrating in the streets of New Jersey after 9/11. I graduated top of my class at Wharton. I never spoke to any Russians. There is no evidence of collusion. It's all a witch hunt. The tax cuts hurt me financially.
I could go on. The Toronto Star has compiled a list of every falsehood Donald Trump has uttered since being sworn in. They update it every few weeks, and it looks like the last time was on April 22, 2018, so the list has almost certainly grown since then. That these were lies is irrefutable. It's not a matter of interpretation, or context. There is no other possible conclusion other than that we have entered into a post-truth era. What's true and who lies no longer matters. (FYI: The list is in reverse chronological with the newest shown first).
http://projects.thestar.com/do...
You think that allowing Iran to build a nuclear weapon, become more isolated and have the hardliners get back in power is going to lead to disengagement?
It's the same story as 2003, 2006, 2010 and 2014. We're going to bring peace to a Middle Eastern country by doing everything we can to fuck it up.
You don't get it. It doesn't matter who's in office here. It only matters who's in office in Israel. The intelligence and military apparatus of Israel wanted to keep the Iran deal in place. Netanyahu wants it destroyed to help him because like Trump he's facing all sorts of legal problems for himself, and his family. It's the tail wagging the hintele.
Here was the subject line of his comment:
"Ben Rhodes admitted lying to sell it"
First, let's not be stingy with the quotes.
When you read the actual paragraph from the article, it sounds a lot less like "lying to the American people" than it does "putting a positive political spin on the events".
It's galling that a Trump supporter would dare to come here and complain about someone else's dishonesty. Trump has forever closed any possible argument about honesty.
Remember, the NY Times has always been a neo-conservative publication when it comes to foreign wars. They love wars in the Middle East. Remember Judith Miller? Tom Friedman? They literally wrote daily columns cheerleading for the invasion of Iraq. Why would anyone be surprised that they would promote a Likudnik perspective on the Iran Deal?
That's not what the article says, at all.
Did you see the intel from Israel about WMDs in 2003?
The "intel from Israel" consisted of a PowerPoint presentation with a slide that said, "Iran is Cheating". You could change the word "Iran" to "Iraq" in everything that's been presented by Israel and you'd get an exact copy of the run-up to the Iraq War. Coincidentally, the people who are most keen to believe the "intel from Israel" are the exact same people who insisted that Saddam was hours away from being able to send a nuke to New York. It's been 15 years since Bush invaded Iraq and the Likudniks assume we've forgotten by now.
You've been played. No, you played yourself.
Yes, there are now indications that Likudnik billionaires like Adelson financed the hiring of Black Box. This is going to be a big story going forward.
None of the people who Black Box snooped on were Trump's opponent. Neither of the two cited were running against Trump. If the purpose was to torpedo the Iran deal, then it's clearly a Logan violation.
The whole thing smacks of Mossad active measures to make sure there was no raprochement between the US and Iran and to install a useful idiot as President. Lots of countries that are not friends of the US were doing that at the time. It's like we're living in seasons 5, 6 & 7 of Homeland.
That's a different discussion entirely. The bail bond system is a horrible mess. Bonds are not set fairly, and there is terrible abuse. The entire system should be scrapped and something better should take its place.
I was addressing whether or not Google is somehow taking away people's access to bail bonds by not selling ads to these companies. I think we can agree that they are not. It's still going to be just as easy and convenient to get a bail bond if there are no ads. But now Google won't be profiting from bail bonds companies.