A techie could preform the mental gymnastics required to figure out it's a hell of a lot easier to hire techies, than it is to hire techies to make techies.
Email is a distributed system that isn't controlled by any single company (or any combination of companies for that matter). As a consequence, email does not go down.
In short, the story that you are commenting in is the reason email is superior to facebook. You needn't look farther.
When you remove the fancy racing shifter, bucket seats, and fuzzy dice from a sportscar, are you dismantling the car, or are you simply removing a few items?
Those agencies you list haven't even existed very long at all, even considering the relative youth of America. Would you say that before their formation we did not in fact have a government?
Of course not, stop being absurd. You're attempts to demonize people with different political beliefs as you are exceedingly transparent, and not appreciated.
What do you think would happen to you if you stayed outside in direct sunlight day after day, for your entire lifetime? Plants are heartier than humans, probably because they tend to be far simpler. I'm sure a bio guy could tell you more accurate and precise reasons, but you seem to not want that...
Primarily they would prevent the accidental ingestion of alpha particle emitters. Shit like polonium like the Russians used on that reporter a few years ago. They're normally harmless, your dead skin cells will stop the alpha particles, but [deity] help you if you ingest them.
The background radiation levels are easily measurable and it's pretty easy to calculate how long someone should reasonable stay in an area unprotected. I would wager that these scientists actually know something about science, and were mainly concerned with ingesting alpha emitters, not absorbing gamma rays.
Libertarians don't want to dismantle the government. In fact, they want anything but that because their entire point is that they want to be able to enjoy the freedoms the government supposedly gave them in the first place. They want to "dismantle the government" only so far as to make the government more effective at respecting the right it chose to give us.
If you can't tell the difference "dismantle government", and "ensure that government doesn't go back on their word", then I'm not quite sure what to say.
Perhaps you are thinking of "people who call themselves libertarians for social acceptance reasons, but are actually anarchists".
Patched binaries allow continued access that goes undetected (unless you look hard enough). Just like more modern rootkits.
The only reason I switched from using login as an example to su is because under normal circumstances su is not available remotely, and you seem to mistakenly believe there is a fundamental difference between privilege escalation and unauthorized access.
A backdoor, by definition, gives access. The distinction between "privileged access" and "normal user access" is meaningless, any access given to people that are not supposed to have it is "privileged access". Whether it gets you in as root or gets you in as a regular user... doesn't matter. The distinction doesn't even exist on plenty of systems.
Rootkits by definition involve backdoors. They provided continued unprivileged access by installing a backdoor, and making an attempt at keeping it secret. It is only in the modernized sense of the word that continued access is left out of the definition. Excluding the incorrect modern usage, you can have a backdoor without having a rootkit, but you cannot have a rootkit without having a backdoor.
Try reading a book or two. Preferably at least one on forming reasoned arguments. Tip: childish insults win you nothing.
Nice strawman. "completely dismantle government" more accurately describes the beliefs of anarchist than libertarians. If you don't see a difference, then you are hardly qualified to speak on the matter at all.
And for the record, as someone who dabbles in anarchy (crypto-anarchy to be precise), I don't think that dismantling or de-fanging the government will result in a utopia. I merely believe it will result in a shitty lawless world that just might happen to manage to be better than what we will be dealing with in the future with the current system. People will always be evil, but when those people organize and create a monopolistic rule enforced by force... well lets just say that is when things really go to shit.
Make the videos anyway. If you market it to the right crowd, and it's actually worth it, it will sell.
I don't imagine car mechanics and car enthusiasts are like you average college student, downloading everything in sight. Chances are your target audience would be more than willing to pay a fair price. People who work on cars for a living should be used to the idea of buying materials/manuals, and similarly for people who have the time/money to routinely work on their own cars.
People forget that prosecuting innocent computer-less grandmothers for piracy isn't the MPAA's only claim to fame. Their ratings board has a long history of using it's weight to bully film makers around, and is for all intents and purposes a censorship tool that has been used in very heavy handed political ways. They may not be government, but they're made of people with the same sort of mindset.
I'm sure they actually oppose wikileaks for many of the same reason that the US government does, and are not doing this purely to get their foot in the door.
(also, have you ever noticed that the general public doesn't really seem to be aware that the MPAA isn't a government agency? They seem to put a lot of effort into appearing so without actually saying so, and their close interaction with government officials in the past and present certainly doesn't help).
A back door is when you allow someone to access a computer via a non-normal access mechanism that is typically unknown to the authorized user(s).
...thus allowing continued privileged access....
You are using the word in the layman sense, disregarding it's origins. Why do you think it's called rootkit? It's a term used to describe a "kit" of software that allows the attacker to regain root access later on. Patch login to always allow a second predefined password, drop it into place, and you have yourself a rootkit. The techniques that rootkits developed to hide themselves have been borrowed by malware, and the term has been usurped too (in a similar fashion to what happened to the word "bricked", which now seems to mean "requires a power cycling or re-flashing".
Hiding itself is a means to an end. In the case of rootkits, that end is continued access to the system. Unsophisticated rootkits can skip this step and still be considered rootkits (though they will be of questionable utility). A patched copy of 'login' can be a 'rootkit' using the real definition of the word.
Not only do most people not know about jury nullification in the US, it is actually legal for the judge to forbid anybody to mention it, and iirc it is legal for the judge to lie about it's existence.
Every single time I hear about somebody I know getting a summons, I tell them to google "jury nullification" before they go, but to not mention a thing about it. It's one of the few ways the average citizen can have a direct impact on government these days, and the establishment hates it.
I think you mean "entrapped" (although I'm not sure that is true either, who initiated this transaction?). "Framed" indicates that somebody else committed the crime, and managed to have the blame fall on these people.
I participated in the BOINC effort that cracked all the (512 bit RSA) signing keys for TI graphing calculators, I'm well aware of the current factoring scene. Each of those took a few days, and were done with purely donated computer time from a handful of hobbyists. (The first was done by a single individual acting alone, and took a few months). Provided a few million dollars of funding, 768 bit numbers can be (have been) factored. At the current pace of development, I expect we'll see 1024 bit keys being factored by well funded efforts within 5 or so years, and maybe 5 years after that they'll be within reach of hobbyists too.
Thing is, people are already starting to recognize this and are using large and larger keys. 2048-bit keys are quite common and 4096-bit keys are definitely not unheard of. Don't expect to see either of those factored any time soon, even with millions of dollars worth of computing time. The difficulty of this stuff doesn't increase linearly by any stretch of the imagination. GNFS's are faster than incrementally trying each number, but don't let that fool you.
Provided sufficiently large keys (1024 bits or more in the case of RSA), brute force is infeasible. "Reverse engineering" only really applies if the details of the cryptographic primitives are not already publicly known (pretty much never the case).
You can use anything to teach them how to design something, I would suggest Blender (since it's free and they are ART students) or if they are technically adept enough (which they aren't), you can let them use the Sauerbraten engine
Huh? Last I tried both of them (admittedly, several years ago) Sauerbraten was dead simple and Blender was next to a nightmare.
* If the person cannot change the vote, then what do we do? Stop the election?
Pretty much. If the user presses candidate A and the machine prints candidate B, the election honestly should be halted. There is no point continuing an election if votes are not actually being counted.
Anyway, an electronic machine that prints paper copies isn't a silver bullet, it just brings the machines up to the same level as the mechanical machines we currently use. The situation still isn't great, but it is a hell of a lot better.
Didn't Brazil manage to pull off an election with 128 million votes, and zero miscounts?
No. They had an election and the people in charge of it claim there were no miscounts. The distinction is important.
With electronic voting machines, in the best of all possible circumstances (open source code) only a very small portion of the population is able to truly understand and verify it, and an even tinier portion of people are able to verify that the code that's available to the public is actually the code that is running on the machines when voters use them. The people who are in the position to verify that either A) have absolutely no idea how to do so, or B) are the people who would have installed the incorrect software in the first place.
If you make the machines output a physical copy of the vote which the voter then verifies then the situation is improved, but with a purely electronic voting system the entire thing is FUBAR.
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A techie could preform the mental gymnastics required to figure out it's a hell of a lot easier to hire techies, than it is to hire techies to make techies.
Email is a distributed system that isn't controlled by any single company (or any combination of companies for that matter). As a consequence, email does not go down.
In short, the story that you are commenting in is the reason email is superior to facebook. You needn't look farther.
When you remove the fancy racing shifter, bucket seats, and fuzzy dice from a sportscar, are you dismantling the car, or are you simply removing a few items?
Those agencies you list haven't even existed very long at all, even considering the relative youth of America. Would you say that before their formation we did not in fact have a government?
Of course not, stop being absurd. You're attempts to demonize people with different political beliefs as you are exceedingly transparent, and not appreciated.
What do you think would happen to you if you stayed outside in direct sunlight day after day, for your entire lifetime? Plants are heartier than humans, probably because they tend to be far simpler. I'm sure a bio guy could tell you more accurate and precise reasons, but you seem to not want that...
Actually, they would do something.
Primarily they would prevent the accidental ingestion of alpha particle emitters. Shit like polonium like the Russians used on that reporter a few years ago. They're normally harmless, your dead skin cells will stop the alpha particles, but [deity] help you if you ingest them.
The background radiation levels are easily measurable and it's pretty easy to calculate how long someone should reasonable stay in an area unprotected. I would wager that these scientists actually know something about science, and were mainly concerned with ingesting alpha emitters, not absorbing gamma rays.
Libertarians don't want to dismantle the government. In fact, they want anything but that because their entire point is that they want to be able to enjoy the freedoms the government supposedly gave them in the first place. They want to "dismantle the government" only so far as to make the government more effective at respecting the right it chose to give us.
If you can't tell the difference "dismantle government", and "ensure that government doesn't go back on their word", then I'm not quite sure what to say.
Perhaps you are thinking of "people who call themselves libertarians for social acceptance reasons, but are actually anarchists".
Patched binaries allow continued access that goes undetected (unless you look hard enough). Just like more modern rootkits.
The only reason I switched from using login as an example to su is because under normal circumstances su is not available remotely, and you seem to mistakenly believe there is a fundamental difference between privilege escalation and unauthorized access.
A backdoor, by definition, gives access. The distinction between "privileged access" and "normal user access" is meaningless, any access given to people that are not supposed to have it is "privileged access". Whether it gets you in as root or gets you in as a regular user... doesn't matter. The distinction doesn't even exist on plenty of systems.
Rootkits by definition involve backdoors. They provided continued unprivileged access by installing a backdoor, and making an attempt at keeping it secret. It is only in the modernized sense of the word that continued access is left out of the definition. Excluding the incorrect modern usage, you can have a backdoor without having a rootkit, but you cannot have a rootkit without having a backdoor.
Try reading a book or two. Preferably at least one on forming reasoned arguments. Tip: childish insults win you nothing.
Nice strawman. "completely dismantle government" more accurately describes the beliefs of anarchist than libertarians. If you don't see a difference, then you are hardly qualified to speak on the matter at all.
And for the record, as someone who dabbles in anarchy (crypto-anarchy to be precise), I don't think that dismantling or de-fanging the government will result in a utopia. I merely believe it will result in a shitty lawless world that just might happen to manage to be better than what we will be dealing with in the future with the current system. People will always be evil, but when those people organize and create a monopolistic rule enforced by force... well lets just say that is when things really go to shit.
Make the videos anyway. If you market it to the right crowd, and it's actually worth it, it will sell.
I don't imagine car mechanics and car enthusiasts are like you average college student, downloading everything in sight. Chances are your target audience would be more than willing to pay a fair price. People who work on cars for a living should be used to the idea of buying materials/manuals, and similarly for people who have the time/money to routinely work on their own cars.
People forget that prosecuting innocent computer-less grandmothers for piracy isn't the MPAA's only claim to fame. Their ratings board has a long history of using it's weight to bully film makers around, and is for all intents and purposes a censorship tool that has been used in very heavy handed political ways. They may not be government, but they're made of people with the same sort of mindset.
I'm sure they actually oppose wikileaks for many of the same reason that the US government does, and are not doing this purely to get their foot in the door.
(also, have you ever noticed that the general public doesn't really seem to be aware that the MPAA isn't a government agency? They seem to put a lot of effort into appearing so without actually saying so, and their close interaction with government officials in the past and present certainly doesn't help).
Some people in this thread don't know their history.
One clue is that rootkits were around since the 70s or 80s, when the parent post thinks they've only been around since the 90s.
"normal user access" to people that are not supposed to have it may as well be "priviledged access".
Furthermore, your new definition of backdoor precludes the possibility of a patched 'su' binary that gives normal users root access being a backdoor.
At least try to be consistent.
That sounds more like a definition of 'malware' than 'rootkit' to me...
You are using the word in the layman sense, disregarding it's origins. Why do you think it's called rootkit? It's a term used to describe a "kit" of software that allows the attacker to regain root access later on. Patch login to always allow a second predefined password, drop it into place, and you have yourself a rootkit. The techniques that rootkits developed to hide themselves have been borrowed by malware, and the term has been usurped too (in a similar fashion to what happened to the word "bricked", which now seems to mean "requires a power cycling or re-flashing".
That doesn't make that usage correct.
A rootkit is software that enables continued privileged access to a computer...
Read: "back door".
Hiding itself is a means to an end. In the case of rootkits, that end is continued access to the system. Unsophisticated rootkits can skip this step and still be considered rootkits (though they will be of questionable utility). A patched copy of 'login' can be a 'rootkit' using the real definition of the word.
Probably not if each slashdot poser knows what a one time pad is.
Not only do most people not know about jury nullification in the US, it is actually legal for the judge to forbid anybody to mention it, and iirc it is legal for the judge to lie about it's existence.
Every single time I hear about somebody I know getting a summons, I tell them to google "jury nullification" before they go, but to not mention a thing about it. It's one of the few ways the average citizen can have a direct impact on government these days, and the establishment hates it.
I think you mean "entrapped" (although I'm not sure that is true either, who initiated this transaction?). "Framed" indicates that somebody else committed the crime, and managed to have the blame fall on these people.
I never used Sauerbraten in the context of development, just level design. The stuff it has for level modelling in game is incredibly straightforward.
I participated in the BOINC effort that cracked all the (512 bit RSA) signing keys for TI graphing calculators, I'm well aware of the current factoring scene. Each of those took a few days, and were done with purely donated computer time from a handful of hobbyists. (The first was done by a single individual acting alone, and took a few months). Provided a few million dollars of funding, 768 bit numbers can be (have been) factored. At the current pace of development, I expect we'll see 1024 bit keys being factored by well funded efforts within 5 or so years, and maybe 5 years after that they'll be within reach of hobbyists too.
Thing is, people are already starting to recognize this and are using large and larger keys. 2048-bit keys are quite common and 4096-bit keys are definitely not unheard of. Don't expect to see either of those factored any time soon, even with millions of dollars worth of computing time. The difficulty of this stuff doesn't increase linearly by any stretch of the imagination. GNFS's are faster than incrementally trying each number, but don't let that fool you.
Provided sufficiently large keys (1024 bits or more in the case of RSA), brute force is infeasible. "Reverse engineering" only really applies if the details of the cryptographic primitives are not already publicly known (pretty much never the case).
Huh? Last I tried both of them (admittedly, several years ago) Sauerbraten was dead simple and Blender was next to a nightmare.
You say it like this is some sort of recent development... this stuff has been around since at least the 70s. Talked about well before then.
And how exactly does malware "support the internet"?
Pretty much. If the user presses candidate A and the machine prints candidate B, the election honestly should be halted. There is no point continuing an election if votes are not actually being counted.
Anyway, an electronic machine that prints paper copies isn't a silver bullet, it just brings the machines up to the same level as the mechanical machines we currently use. The situation still isn't great, but it is a hell of a lot better.
No. They had an election and the people in charge of it claim there were no miscounts. The distinction is important.
With electronic voting machines, in the best of all possible circumstances (open source code) only a very small portion of the population is able to truly understand and verify it, and an even tinier portion of people are able to verify that the code that's available to the public is actually the code that is running on the machines when voters use them. The people who are in the position to verify that either A) have absolutely no idea how to do so, or B) are the people who would have installed the incorrect software in the first place.
If you make the machines output a physical copy of the vote which the voter then verifies then the situation is improved, but with a purely electronic voting system the entire thing is FUBAR.