Let's get all these terms being thrown around defined and clear. What we're really talking about is a server app that runs on a machine and sends data over a tcp port.
Now, that being said, let's use icecast as an example: you could use it to run a shoutcast stream for general use by the public (or an "internet radio station", if you prefer), or it can be used to listen to the music of your work computer at home. That's a bit too grey for me.
It could be argued that one could accomplish the same thing with pirate radio signals, but there are significant differences: pirate radio is tougher to set up, more expensive by far, and (most of all) REGULATED BY THE FCC.
No tcp port is regulated by the FCC, nor could it ever be. This is partly the now-taboo Napster debate over fair use, and partly the simple fact that the net is much too vast (and will continue to be more so) for any regulatory agency to enforce anything with any regularity (no pun intended).
It's been said so many times that the Internet is the bane of governmental regulation everywhere: a monolth that can't be controlled, or even tamed. Just as there will always be hate and porn and ooh...free speech...there will always be people on the net doing what they want with it. That includes playing their deathly annoying Jessica Simpson mp3s...
this industry moves much too quickly for people like Glass to even *be* clued. not saying it's impossible, just that he thought he was already in.
-Re: ethics
just a quick comment (i'm not going for status on this post) -- hackers and crackers DO have ethics. that's why the two are distinguished. crackers are lame "kiddie" renditions of hackers, who are the more mature. that's relative, of course. most hackers i know are under 21...
nevertheless, as The Red Book taught us all, no UNIX system can be truly secure *ever*. We may as well stop trying.
At some point, I am going to use this new slashdot username i've recently perloined and go into a big rant on free information and ultimate communication. maybe i'll just write rob and jeff instead...
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Let's get all these terms being thrown around defined and clear. What we're really talking about is a server app that runs on a machine and sends data over a tcp port.
Now, that being said, let's use icecast as an example: you could use it to run a shoutcast stream for general use by the public (or an "internet radio station", if you prefer), or it can be used to listen to the music of your work computer at home. That's a bit too grey for me.
It could be argued that one could accomplish the same thing with pirate radio signals, but there are significant differences: pirate radio is tougher to set up, more expensive by far, and (most of all) REGULATED BY THE FCC.
No tcp port is regulated by the FCC, nor could it ever be. This is partly the now-taboo Napster debate over fair use, and partly the simple fact that the net is much too vast (and will continue to be more so) for any regulatory agency to enforce anything with any regularity (no pun intended).
It's been said so many times that the Internet is the bane of governmental regulation everywhere: a monolth that can't be controlled, or even tamed. Just as there will always be hate and porn and ooh...free speech...there will always be people on the net doing what they want with it. That includes playing their deathly annoying Jessica Simpson mp3s...
-Re: the phreaking comment
this industry moves much too quickly for people like Glass to even *be* clued. not saying it's impossible, just that he thought he was already in.
-Re: ethics
just a quick comment (i'm not going for status on this post) -- hackers and crackers DO have ethics. that's why the two are distinguished. crackers are lame "kiddie" renditions of hackers, who are the more mature. that's relative, of course. most hackers i know are under 21...
nevertheless, as The Red Book taught us all, no UNIX system can be truly secure *ever*. We may as well stop trying.
At some point, I am going to use this new slashdot username i've recently perloined and go into a big rant on free information and ultimate communication. maybe i'll just write rob and jeff instead...
--kaspar