Simon was a talentless, business asshole that took an idea that was *already* proven and thought he could make money on it by copying it...
Frankly, I'll agree with you that the 10/gui interface may not pan out. I wouldn't know for sure I haven't had the chance to use it. But the idea that only incremental improvements are worth developing for is ridiculous. Your attitude about new things is pretty much in line with most people, though. Henry Ford said that if he listened to what people wanted he'd have made faster horses. (paraphrasing). Sometimes it takes big changes to move technology along, no one is forcing you to be an early adopter. Further, new interfaces like 10/gui have more value than their possibility as a mouse and keyboard replacement. Multi-touch technology is not going anywhere, maybe some of the ideas they have are good enough to be used in part, if not in whole... Google wave for instance was a 'failed' platform but many pieces of that tech made it into other google products and really improved them, like multi-user editing in docs. Finally, you should consider the possibility that people other than you might have different opinions about what interface works best for them. There doesn't have to be one universal interface for each person, let alone for each type of hardware platform.
Haha that site is awesome, super funny. I'm not sure why you think I'm like simon but you must be right since you know me so well. I'm into art and programming and stuff like that not business and I'm never rude to people that aren't rude to me, I'm also not demanding or irrational. So how am I like simon?
I'll just speak for myself but to me it seems like a strange concept to use a memory slot for power... apparently memory slots are commonly abundant in servers but not molex cables? I guess niche concept and 20 acronyms leads to mistake making territory in my case.. whatevs....
Ah, well I did read the summary but I didn't get it I guess. Still, over rated maybe? I just made a mistake, I wasn't trying to be inflammatory or troll anyone.
Yah, kind of a brain fart I guess. In my defense it's kind of a strange niche concept I just didn't get it at first. And since we're name calling you're a small dick, asshole who's mom is a whore and a weasel fucker.
Ok now if that's the case this doesn't seem as neat... I guess if you happen to have an empty dimm slot but that seems like a small niche. Why not just sell a tiny ssd drive that you could hook up to the molex power sockets and the sata cable? I'm not a server admin or anything though so maybe I'm missing something.
Actually there's a public head of 4chan, too.. 4chan is just like wikileaks, anonymous users and a public figure running it.. though, even if there wasn't a public figure head there's still stationary, physical servers, registered domains, etc.
That's kind of crazy how would you access the drive? Would you need a special driver or something to mount it as a sata drive? This seems neat but I'm confused at how this work and the article didn't seem to explain...
That's true but I feel like we're arguing over semantics here. I picked one part of the userspace as an example.
Android is not binary compatable with desktop linux (even desktop linux that has been ported to whatever hardware you happen to be running android on).
What does binary compatibility have to do with it? I don't mean that in a confrontational way and it's not a rhetorical question. Wouldn't Android, Jolicloud, Chrome OS and Meego all be distributions of linux just the same as Debian, Ubuntu or Suse?
See, that makes sense. As smart as the Apple folks seem I just can't imagine that they'd be trying to dominate the market with the same strategy that didn't work last time around. If what you've said is truly their business MO than that would explain a lot.
Haha, astute observation. That makes me wonder if Clippy's problem wasn't an image problem this whole time. That stupid paperclip looks so damn smug, while HAL's red, shiny eye seems intelligent, cold, and omnipresent.
Wait though, I didn't say GNU/Linux... and it *is* using the linux kernel. Many distro's use a variant of the linux kernel and different user interfaces, gnome, kde even commandline UI's like screen. So it's perfectly valid to call Android a linux OS.
One of the biggest worries that we have with our computer system on board is malicious software and virus attacks," Anderson said.
I'm sad that astronauts are running windows... I thought for sure some type of HAL like AI was their OS on the freaking *space* station... or at least linux:P
Until the phone carriers get heir hands on it. Then it turns into a DRM riddled and neutered piece of junk.
It's still linux regardless of your feelings about it's openness or utility. Although I don't disagree with you that it's annoying what the carriers do to the OS. I don't share your pain though, being a cyanogen user.:)
I'd guess it's wrong because that doesn't make the carriers any money? Although, it probably does in the long run if you consider customer experience an important factor.
Actually, Woz was saying android would win because of features and hardware choice, not because of openness. He's got a pretty good point there because it sure seems like history repeating itself after the PC race. And btw, Android IS linux.
I think it's been said before but it seems like apple phones are taking the same route that their computers do. I don't think anyone could say that Apple isn't doing well in their business so this isn't criticism of their business practices but if their goal is total domination of the phone market why are they going the same route?
Well, it's not quite that simple. There's some good reasons to cheer for your favorite platform. The platform that's doing the best gets the most attention from developers and hardware manufacturers. Also, some apps are more useful with a larger user base, like multiplayer games... Go android!:)
The problem with Wikileaks is that only half of the participants are anonymous. For it to work over a long period of time the people helping to disseminate the information need to be anonymous, too. I'm not sure if that's technically possible, though.
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Simon was a talentless, business asshole that took an idea that was *already* proven and thought he could make money on it by copying it...
Frankly, I'll agree with you that the 10/gui interface may not pan out. I wouldn't know for sure I haven't had the chance to use it. But the idea that only incremental improvements are worth developing for is ridiculous. Your attitude about new things is pretty much in line with most people, though. Henry Ford said that if he listened to what people wanted he'd have made faster horses. (paraphrasing). Sometimes it takes big changes to move technology along, no one is forcing you to be an early adopter. Further, new interfaces like 10/gui have more value than their possibility as a mouse and keyboard replacement. Multi-touch technology is not going anywhere, maybe some of the ideas they have are good enough to be used in part, if not in whole... Google wave for instance was a 'failed' platform but many pieces of that tech made it into other google products and really improved them, like multi-user editing in docs. Finally, you should consider the possibility that people other than you might have different opinions about what interface works best for them. There doesn't have to be one universal interface for each person, let alone for each type of hardware platform.
Haha that site is awesome, super funny. I'm not sure why you think I'm like simon but you must be right since you know me so well. I'm into art and programming and stuff like that not business and I'm never rude to people that aren't rude to me, I'm also not demanding or irrational. So how am I like simon?
Is that supposed to be someone I should know?
Ouch... I actually really like android. Plus it's sweet that linux is finally doing well in a user centric market!
I'll just speak for myself but to me it seems like a strange concept to use a memory slot for power... apparently memory slots are commonly abundant in servers but not molex cables? I guess niche concept and 20 acronyms leads to mistake making territory in my case.. whatevs....
Fuck you , coward.
Ah, that makes sense, then.
That's a really good point, thank you. Let me be more clear. Before, I didn't post about shitty moderation but now I do whatever the hell I want.
Ah, well I did read the summary but I didn't get it I guess. Still, over rated maybe? I just made a mistake, I wasn't trying to be inflammatory or troll anyone.
Yah, kind of a brain fart I guess. In my defense it's kind of a strange niche concept I just didn't get it at first. And since we're name calling you're a small dick, asshole who's mom is a whore and a weasel fucker.
Ok now if that's the case this doesn't seem as neat... I guess if you happen to have an empty dimm slot but that seems like a small niche. Why not just sell a tiny ssd drive that you could hook up to the molex power sockets and the sata cable? I'm not a server admin or anything though so maybe I'm missing something.
Wtf?... I try not to post about bad moderation but how the fuck is that a troll?
Actually there's a public head of 4chan, too.. 4chan is just like wikileaks, anonymous users and a public figure running it.. though, even if there wasn't a public figure head there's still stationary, physical servers, registered domains, etc.
That's kind of crazy how would you access the drive? Would you need a special driver or something to mount it as a sata drive? This seems neat but I'm confused at how this work and the article didn't seem to explain...
i said userspace, not user interface.
That's true but I feel like we're arguing over semantics here. I picked one part of the userspace as an example.
Android is not binary compatable with desktop linux (even desktop linux that has been ported to whatever hardware you happen to be running android on).
What does binary compatibility have to do with it? I don't mean that in a confrontational way and it's not a rhetorical question. Wouldn't Android, Jolicloud, Chrome OS and Meego all be distributions of linux just the same as Debian, Ubuntu or Suse?
See, that makes sense. As smart as the Apple folks seem I just can't imagine that they'd be trying to dominate the market with the same strategy that didn't work last time around. If what you've said is truly their business MO than that would explain a lot.
Haha, astute observation. That makes me wonder if Clippy's problem wasn't an image problem this whole time. That stupid paperclip looks so damn smug, while HAL's red, shiny eye seems intelligent, cold, and omnipresent.
Wait though, I didn't say GNU/Linux... and it *is* using the linux kernel. Many distro's use a variant of the linux kernel and different user interfaces, gnome, kde even commandline UI's like screen. So it's perfectly valid to call Android a linux OS.
One of the biggest worries that we have with our computer system on board is malicious software and virus attacks," Anderson said.
I'm sad that astronauts are running windows... I thought for sure some type of HAL like AI was their OS on the freaking *space* station... or at least linux :P
Until the phone carriers get heir hands on it. Then it turns into a DRM riddled and neutered piece of junk.
It's still linux regardless of your feelings about it's openness or utility. Although I don't disagree with you that it's annoying what the carriers do to the OS. I don't share your pain though, being a cyanogen user. :)
I'd guess it's wrong because that doesn't make the carriers any money? Although, it probably does in the long run if you consider customer experience an important factor.
Actually, Woz was saying android would win because of features and hardware choice, not because of openness. He's got a pretty good point there because it sure seems like history repeating itself after the PC race. And btw, Android IS linux.
I think it's been said before but it seems like apple phones are taking the same route that their computers do. I don't think anyone could say that Apple isn't doing well in their business so this isn't criticism of their business practices but if their goal is total domination of the phone market why are they going the same route?
Well, it's not quite that simple. There's some good reasons to cheer for your favorite platform. The platform that's doing the best gets the most attention from developers and hardware manufacturers. Also, some apps are more useful with a larger user base, like multiplayer games... Go android! :)
The problem with Wikileaks is that only half of the participants are anonymous. For it to work over a long period of time the people helping to disseminate the information need to be anonymous, too. I'm not sure if that's technically possible, though.