"Call me old-fashioned, but calling me an uneducated, ignorant, narrow minded fool because I believe in something he does not strikes me as insulting. "
Why are facts insulting? They might be embarrassing but insulting they are not, if you feel you are insulted then you are ignorant of the meaning of the words used.
1) Westboro is following the religion as laid out in the bible, so if other christians aren't following suit then they are not really christians.
2) Just put religion where it belongs, out of politics, law, schools etc and keep in the heads of the ones that want to continue with their delusion
3) No-one is denying them a right to worship, just a right to keep them out of politics, law, schools etc and ruining everyone else's life with their anti-evolutionism, anti other religions (i.e. they others aren't real) and worshiping a book that promotes genocide, homophobia, misogyny, stoning people to death, not allowing you to eat shellfish, pork etc (except most christians ignore this rule from god)
So the bible is a story book with no facts or truths, just fantasy. I agree.
"In other words, it isn't a scientific text, and shouldn't be read as one. It isn't even trying to describe science, and it's a serious misreading of it to think it is"
"Note to future religious text writers: stick to unfalsifiable metaphysics."
thought i'd better fix that for you. I wouldn';t get moral advice from any of the abrahamic religions books, if i did i'd be a supporter of genocide, homophobia, misogyny, stoning people to death for trivial reasons
"The reason appropriate relative association between the actions and the worldview is that mass-killing is -directly contrary- to the principles of Christianity, and therefore, by definition, -not Christianity-."
Genocide is a feature of the bible , try reading it sometime
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Ever heard of creationists? Ever read about the catholic church stance against the sun being the centre of the universe not the earth? etc etc If i need to mention these things then there is something lacking, there is no need to mention the obvious.
"These passages are shared by Christians, Jews, and Muslims" - because they are all based on the Jewish beliefs, christianity was a cult during jesus's time and islam is a "me too" johnny come lately
"What religion values ignorance?"
All religions practice it otherwise religion would be hoisted on its own petard (as it deserves to do),
I was just pointing out a test was useless as the astrophysicists were backing up/promoting the creationist idea, perhaps i should have made that point clearer.
"Considering God telling people to kill other people usually gets them locked up" only if you are not a Christian and even though the bible is a killers charter
Of course religion fucking bad. read the bible to see how killing, maiming and stoning to death is recommended to please the god. The peaceful religionists are not following their religion. For the last time, Atheism in NOT a religion, there is no deity involved
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"Dawkins does plenty of the latter. Calling theists "ignorant" is indeed insulting "
rubbish, you are probably more embarrassed because the facts are on his side and you know it so you fall on the "I'm insulted boo hoo" defense
"Call me old-fashioned, but calling me an uneducated, ignorant, narrow minded fool because I believe in something he does not strikes me as insulting. "
Why are facts insulting? They might be embarrassing but insulting they are not, if you feel you are insulted then you are ignorant of the meaning of the words used.
1) Westboro is following the religion as laid out in the bible, so if other christians aren't following suit then they are not really christians.
2) Just put religion where it belongs, out of politics, law, schools etc and keep in the heads of the ones that want to continue with their delusion
3) No-one is denying them a right to worship, just a right to keep them out of politics, law, schools etc and ruining everyone else's life with their anti-evolutionism, anti other religions (i.e. they others aren't real) and worshiping a book that promotes genocide, homophobia, misogyny, stoning people to death, not allowing you to eat shellfish, pork etc (except most christians ignore this rule from god)
"Some of the best advice I received regarding understanding the Bible was to" treat nothing of it as literal or true
As with many texts, the Bible requires a great deal of concerted wasted study and no understanding.
So the bible is a story book with no facts or truths, just fantasy. I agree.
"In other words, it isn't a scientific text, and shouldn't be read as one. It isn't even trying to describe science, and it's a serious misreading of it to think it is"
tell that to the creationists
"Note to future religious text writers: stick to unfalsifiable metaphysics."
thought i'd better fix that for you. I wouldn';t get moral advice from any of the abrahamic religions books, if i did i'd be a supporter of genocide, homophobia, misogyny, stoning people to death for trivial reasons
"Why is it bigotry to say that homosexuality should be stamped out, yet not bigotry to say religion should be stamped out?"
Homosexuality is a fact of life, religion is a delusion.
Dawkins is NOT a bigot, he uses facts to back up his assertions and he probably knows more about religion than most of the religious bigots
"Yes, in fact, people -do- kill "in the name of atheism", provably, as a matter of simple historical fact, and do so by the millions."
we are still waiting for real facts on this "claim" of yours. Stop reading things into history that are not there.
"The reason appropriate relative association between the actions and the worldview is that mass-killing is -directly contrary- to the principles of Christianity, and therefore, by definition, -not Christianity-."
Genocide is a feature of the bible , try reading it sometime
"Calling all religious believers "delusional" by definition, meets your criteria fully."
facts are facts, bigots don't use facts because they don't have any
Obviously you lack comprehension, so no point in anyone pointing out the facts to you
thank goodness for that, i don't want to pay $1000 for a big red dot on my BB
market share is not always an indicator of the best product eg. Microsoft Windows
The new version of the BB OS is going to be able to split and separate personal/business activities on the phone. I think this is the best idea for a single phone usage in business. BB is a tool to do a job well and securely, IOS and Andriod are just fanbois options.
Ever heard of creationists? Ever read about the catholic church stance against the sun being the centre of the universe not the earth? etc etc If i need to mention these things then there is something lacking, there is no need to mention the obvious.
Richard Dawkins is a zoologist/biologist so whats your point in comparing to the Spitzer Space Telescope???
"These passages are shared by Christians, Jews, and Muslims" - because they are all based on the Jewish beliefs, christianity was a cult during jesus's time and islam is a "me too" johnny come lately "What religion values ignorance?"
All religions practice it otherwise religion would be hoisted on its own petard (as it deserves to do),
"Look how many Slashdotters are confused." you must be new here, thats the normal stance.......
The should just tax the hell out of it like they do with alcohol.
" I'm gonna put this one in my blackbox." - whats this on slashdot? ASCII Ebony porn?
I was just pointing out a test was useless as the astrophysicists were backing up/promoting the creationist idea, perhaps i should have made that point clearer.
I couldn't live without bacon either, great between 2 slices of bread....
"Considering God telling people to kill other people usually gets them locked up" only if you are not a Christian and even though the bible is a killers charter
Passing a test would make no difference, there are astrophysicists working for Ken Ham and the creationist museum nut jobs
Of course religion fucking bad. read the bible to see how killing, maiming and stoning to death is recommended to please the god. The peaceful religionists are not following their religion.
For the last time, Atheism in NOT a religion, there is no deity involved