"A bigger concern is that all Tesla's phone home with all sorts of information about the car. " - people should be used to that by now with Microsoft OSes, Android and Apple Apps, new smoke alarms, IoT.... etc etc etc
but a lot of the "low skilled" workers are needed because the natives have such a sense of entitlement that those sorts of jobs are beneath them. And a lot of the "low skilled" EU workers are actually educated to university level
Just a few examples:
Dan Hannen - leaving the EU will not jeopardise our place in the Single Market
£350m to the NHS
Basically "have all the benefits and none of the bills" - thats whats been "walked back"
Considering the UK government don't seem to have a plan and can't tell us openly what will be affected, the EU is bringing stuff to the fore so we can see what we will lose.
don't hold your breath, the EU won't collapse. the Uks stupidity has made it closer. You really are lacking facts about the EU and just rely on emotional dogma from trash newspapers
"What the Brexit and Trump votes proved is more people that don't buy the media's bullshit voted than those that do believe the bullshit." - you cannot get more bullshit from media like Fox news, briebart, Daily Mail, Daily Express. People who voted for Trump/Brexit did actually vote believing real bullshit and lies.
"So far this action tells me that Brexit may have been the best thing to happen to the UK for quite some time. " - wrong. and the vote was spit about 51.2/48.8 on those who voted which in the end it means only about 27% of voting population voted to leave. The leavers said before the vote if they lost 52/48%, it would be "unfinished business".
" This was one of the consequences that were known from the start. " - not really, the brexiter sections all believed they would have their cake and eat it. The people who want to remain knew there were consequences and pointed that fact out numerous times but brexiters called if "fake news" or "project fear"
"I cannot comprehend how you want everything both ways. It just boggles the mind." - that the problem with brexiters, they were told they could have their cake and eat it. they were lied to time and time again and they kept believing because they never researched a sodding thing. Its embarrassing for them as they have painted themselves into a corner.
"Looks like Jodka triggered another snowflake." - says the snowflake posting as an AC
he should then stop moaning about not many USA built cars being sold in the EU.
But, when European nations (members of NATO) are touting socialized medicine and how great it is, in essence, you can thank the US for that.
nice attempt at spin there. The Uk, not long ago, just finished paying off the USA for WW2. No subsidy there.
I have a tendency not to believe a word Trump says. https://www.politico.eu/articl...
and there are plenty of those that drink and drive who say they drive better after a few drinks
"A bigger concern is that all Tesla's phone home with all sorts of information about the car. " - people should be used to that by now with Microsoft OSes, Android and Apple Apps, new smoke alarms, IoT.... etc etc etc
but a lot of the "low skilled" workers are needed because the natives have such a sense of entitlement that those sorts of jobs are beneath them. And a lot of the "low skilled" EU workers are actually educated to university level
Just a few examples:
Dan Hannen - leaving the EU will not jeopardise our place in the Single Market
£350m to the NHS
Basically "have all the benefits and none of the bills" - thats whats been "walked back"
If you want more examples visit https://brexitlies.com/
Most brexiters didn't have the capability to work out who was responsible for the UK governments mismanagement of the UK so they blamed the EU.
referendums are advisory in the UK, the government can ignore the result if they wish to.
oh god... this "EU army" shit is still in your head. Give it up.
No, Article 50 can be cancelled at any time
bollox, the UK is the petty and petulant one with whiners like Farage.
the Eu is 450m people and the UK is 65m - who do you think is going to get the better deal?
Considering the UK government don't seem to have a plan and can't tell us openly what will be affected, the EU is bringing stuff to the fore so we can see what we will lose.
no it doesn't. the EU collectively "bought" everything. Clueless if you think the UK for most of it.
don't hold your breath, the EU won't collapse. the Uks stupidity has made it closer. You really are lacking facts about the EU and just rely on emotional dogma from trash newspapers
"What the Brexit and Trump votes proved is more people that don't buy the media's bullshit voted than those that do believe the bullshit." - you cannot get more bullshit from media like Fox news, briebart, Daily Mail, Daily Express. People who voted for Trump/Brexit did actually vote believing real bullshit and lies.
"So far this action tells me that Brexit may have been the best thing to happen to the UK for quite some time. " - wrong. and the vote was spit about 51.2/48.8 on those who voted which in the end it means only about 27% of voting population voted to leave. The leavers said before the vote if they lost 52/48%, it would be "unfinished business".
sorry, but you won;t get that through to the "cake and eat it" brigade
No, because are are still and will always remain sovereign nations
" This was one of the consequences that were known from the start. " - not really, the brexiter sections all believed they would have their cake and eat it. The people who want to remain knew there were consequences and pointed that fact out numerous times but brexiters called if "fake news" or "project fear"
quite the contrary, now all the anti-EU lies have been destroyed, EU countries have come to appreciate the EU more
its all proportional and there are 28 independent countries that have to vote
its far more democratic than the UK where less than 30% of the population can put a government in place.
"I cannot comprehend how you want everything both ways. It just boggles the mind." - that the problem with brexiters, they were told they could have their cake and eat it. they were lied to time and time again and they kept believing because they never researched a sodding thing. Its embarrassing for them as they have painted themselves into a corner.