they have been wreaking havoc with paypal, which pressurized paypal to come around and spill the beans saying they shut wikileaks down due to political pressure. and then they released their funds.
in between the life expectancy and wealth. some countries have achieved similar life expectancy with the rich west, despite being on the left hand side of the graph.
which exists with its own life, totally independent. imagine that, this cloud is created by millions, maybe hundreds of millions of people running p2p based clients on their devices. imagine that this cloud uses the collective computing power of these hundreds of millions of people, and with top encryption.
it cant be controlled. it cant be killed. it cant be censored. it cant be outdone. its everywhere.
that is the kind of cloud i would be willing to move into, without hesitation.
something after the format that bitcoin project uses http://www.bitcoin.org/ ( i know this is the second time i linked this, but im enthusiastic )
imagine, all your sensitive data, all your history, your everything in the custody of a corporation. and a single government - if one recalls what happened to amazon.
its beyond logic.
the only way i would agree to moving wholly to a cloud, would be the time one independent, totally self-reliand p2p cloud is created. much like after the format of bitcoin idea :
apparently ANYone who upsets american right in some way, end up either as douchebags, or asshats. or some other derogatory adjective. without fail.
im not wondering about general american public. they may be too under the influence of mass media to begin with and sheepish, like the public in many countries of the world.
but, im wondering why some of the people who use slashdot, which is a place for the i.t. related life and people, are not able to stop for a moment and think 'hey, im thinking that anyone who upsets the established order is an asshat. there is something wrong with this' ?
i.t. requires more cognitive power than other fields of life. its mandatory that you have some cause-effect perception and rationalization ability to even work in it. yet, i see some people constantly iterating the same behavior pattern here, over and over, without thinking that they have been conditioned to do so.
so this is different from fox news, all the corporate news channels, how ?
it isnt. so, if thomas jefferson came and tried to impress you with the idea of freedom, not letting just the evidence speak for itself, then he would be a douche, and you would be negative towards freedoms ?
youre an american maybe. from the outside, we see moore a hero. maybe its possible that the endless propaganda perpetrated by corporate owned mass media have twisted you american people's views about moore, just as it twisted your views about wikileaks.
Here we are. When they released the locations of targets, they became terrorists.
rest of the world doesnt give a flying fsck about american cia operatives who participated in kidnapping,or american soldiers who have participated voluntarily in occupations, are being targeted or not. its their choice, their life. they should ask themselves, what are they doing there, in the first place.
what is appalling is that, there are people who are basically saying that we should be sorry for cia operatives who kidnapped german citizens or other nationals from the middle of europe, took them to bases in client countries in middle east, and tortured them. and, anyone revealing the location of these people, are 'terrorists'.
the real terrorists are people who kidnap others, and torture them. the world doesnt give a flying fuck about the 'lives' endangered by wikileaks' leaks as such. they are the terrorists which should have been hunted for that long time. they have even violated constitutions and sovereignty of ALLIED countries.
To recap. get a fucking clue. you dont know right from wrong.
this issue is about a govt. agency enabling a corporation to cause phenomenal ecological damage by letting go of rules. the cause-effect relationship, is as thus.
the GP post you modded down, practically lays out not only HOW this happened, but also WHY this happened.
But "uncomfortable truth"? Partisan ranting is certainly one of those two things.
so is conveniently missing the major causation leading to the event being discussed and then modding a post down. maybe too convenient indeed...
North american bee population has been declining, scientists estimated that in a few decades this would affect everything in agriculture (pollination), and trying to solve it. it was even dubbed end of mankind. it was that serious.
Now it turns out that, your government has allowed bee-killing pesticides. noone heard about it. no journalist made news of it. no ngo was warned of it. NOONE KNEW. if wikileaks didnt leak it, you would not know about it, still.
tell me now, who are the real terrorists ? the ones letting you know that your entire ecosystem and agriculture is being killed by corporations which have been allowed by your government, or, those corporations and the government themselves ?
wise up. support wikileaks. it is giving you the control over your government that was taken away from you.
for all the business/revenue lost by amazon, paypal, visa, mc. After all, he was the one calling around and pressurizing them to cut a client off, totally against the concepts of free speech, journalism, and fair business. politically censoring a journalistic outlet, for publishing detrimental information.
in case some of you havent kept up, here is how we know it was sen. joe liebermann :
day 1 : amazon cuts wikileaks from their cloud. it is rumored that liebermann pressurized them personally, but amazon does not comment. cites tos violation on balooney terms.
day 2 : everydns cuts wikileaks.org domain. they are not as secretive as amazon. they directly and openly state that joe liebermann called them, and threatened them. towards the evening, they mysteriously retract their statement.
a few days later : paypal cuts wikileaks donations and holds their funds. they cite tos violation, inquiry, and so on.
in the meantime : visa, mc do the same.
a week later : anonymous constantly attacks paypal since a week, keeping api.paypal.down and causing them millions in business. paypal comes around, and admits that they have suspended wikileaks due to political pressure.
a few days more with anonymous : paypal releases wikileaks funds that were being held.
count the times how many times word 'liebermann' passes in the above chronology.
after pressurizing the PRIVATE companies to cut down a perfectly legitimate customer, while in the meantime totally violating first amendment, modern principle of freedom of speech even outside us constitution, intervening and pressurizing private companies, going against journalistic freedoms, it is only natural that he would come up and pay for the business he cost all those companies. of course, not even counting the clients that started to bail out of american providers. not only payment like paypal etc, but a lot of small to medium size businesses are bailing out of u.s. based web hosting companies, datacenters, and content delivery providers.
surely, joe liebermann has the funds to make up for that business lost. else, he wouldnt be going around violating civil liberties, constitutions, and intervening in business for censorship....
Slashdot Mirror
anyone who is able to identify and know one of their undesirable traits as 'pig headed', in an open and direct manner as such, is ok in my book.
it seems he was fully aware of the activities he was engaging in.
in the same way one pseruzises paypal.
they have been wreaking havoc with paypal, which pressurized paypal to come around and spill the beans saying they shut wikileaks down due to political pressure. and then they released their funds.
yet, that is ...
in between the life expectancy and wealth. some countries have achieved similar life expectancy with the rich west, despite being on the left hand side of the graph.
they're just not posting about their moderate stance as much as the extremists are yelling about theirs.
well maybe they should ?! if good people shut up, evil has the day.
your views on i.t. revolves around your narrow perspective about the tech support in your corporation.
which exists with its own life, totally independent. imagine that, this cloud is created by millions, maybe hundreds of millions of people running p2p based clients on their devices. imagine that this cloud uses the collective computing power of these hundreds of millions of people, and with top encryption.
it cant be controlled. it cant be killed. it cant be censored. it cant be outdone. its everywhere.
that is the kind of cloud i would be willing to move into, without hesitation.
something after the format that bitcoin project uses http://www.bitcoin.org/ ( i know this is the second time i linked this, but im enthusiastic )
'the guy'
imagine, all your sensitive data, all your history, your everything in the custody of a corporation. and a single government - if one recalls what happened to amazon.
its beyond logic.
the only way i would agree to moving wholly to a cloud, would be the time one independent, totally self-reliand p2p cloud is created. much like after the format of bitcoin idea :
http://www.bitcoin.org/
apparently ANYone who upsets american right in some way, end up either as douchebags, or asshats. or some other derogatory adjective. without fail.
im not wondering about general american public. they may be too under the influence of mass media to begin with and sheepish, like the public in many countries of the world.
but, im wondering why some of the people who use slashdot, which is a place for the i.t. related life and people, are not able to stop for a moment and think 'hey, im thinking that anyone who upsets the established order is an asshat. there is something wrong with this' ?
i.t. requires more cognitive power than other fields of life. its mandatory that you have some cause-effect perception and rationalization ability to even work in it. yet, i see some people constantly iterating the same behavior pattern here, over and over, without thinking that they have been conditioned to do so.
has cognition no effect on political views ?
so this is different from fox news, all the corporate news channels, how ?
it isnt. so, if thomas jefferson came and tried to impress you with the idea of freedom, not letting just the evidence speak for itself, then he would be a douche, and you would be negative towards freedoms ?
give me a break.
youre an american maybe. from the outside, we see moore a hero. maybe its possible that the endless propaganda perpetrated by corporate owned mass media have twisted you american people's views about moore, just as it twisted your views about wikileaks.
There are still citizens in u.s. who understand what freedom of speech is, what constitution is ?
that is news to me.
Here we are. When they released the locations of targets, they became terrorists.
rest of the world doesnt give a flying fsck about american cia operatives who participated in kidnapping ,or american soldiers who have participated voluntarily in occupations, are being targeted or not. its their choice, their life. they should ask themselves, what are they doing there, in the first place.
what is appalling is that, there are people who are basically saying that we should be sorry for cia operatives who kidnapped german citizens or other nationals from the middle of europe, took them to bases in client countries in middle east, and tortured them. and, anyone revealing the location of these people, are 'terrorists'.
the real terrorists are people who kidnap others, and torture them. the world doesnt give a flying fuck about the 'lives' endangered by wikileaks' leaks as such. they are the terrorists which should have been hunted for that long time. they have even violated constitutions and sovereignty of ALLIED countries.
To recap. get a fucking clue. you dont know right from wrong.
this issue is about a govt. agency enabling a corporation to cause phenomenal ecological damage by letting go of rules. the cause-effect relationship, is as thus.
the GP post you modded down, practically lays out not only HOW this happened, but also WHY this happened.
But "uncomfortable truth"? Partisan ranting is certainly one of those two things.
so is conveniently missing the major causation leading to the event being discussed and then modding a post down. maybe too convenient indeed ...
why is the above post modded down ? because its too disturbing to see uncomfortable truth ?
Come again ?
North american bee population has been declining, scientists estimated that in a few decades this would affect everything in agriculture (pollination), and trying to solve it. it was even dubbed end of mankind. it was that serious.
Now it turns out that, your government has allowed bee-killing pesticides. noone heard about it. no journalist made news of it. no ngo was warned of it. NOONE KNEW. if wikileaks didnt leak it, you would not know about it, still.
tell me now, who are the real terrorists ? the ones letting you know that your entire ecosystem and agriculture is being killed by corporations which have been allowed by your government, or, those corporations and the government themselves ?
wise up. support wikileaks. it is giving you the control over your government that was taken away from you.
pressuring a private company to cut a client, in a fashion that would violate first amendment, is censorship.
"persistently scared viewers of fox news" identification is precise, and hilarious.
that was what i was saying.
you forgot the times he was not directly named, but, behind the move. like, visa, like mc.
millions of homes. raided. tens of millions of people affected due to relatives, social circle, friends, colleagues.
goes WAY over the population limit of many countries, mind that.
i would like to see governments worldwide try prosecuting millions of people ...
for all the business/revenue lost by amazon, paypal, visa, mc. After all, he was the one calling around and pressurizing them to cut a client off, totally against the concepts of free speech, journalism, and fair business. politically censoring a journalistic outlet, for publishing detrimental information.
....
in case some of you havent kept up, here is how we know it was sen. joe liebermann :
day 1 : amazon cuts wikileaks from their cloud. it is rumored that liebermann pressurized them personally, but amazon does not comment. cites tos violation on balooney terms.
day 2 : everydns cuts wikileaks.org domain. they are not as secretive as amazon. they directly and openly state that joe liebermann called them, and threatened them. towards the evening, they mysteriously retract their statement.
a few days later : paypal cuts wikileaks donations and holds their funds. they cite tos violation, inquiry, and so on.
in the meantime : visa, mc do the same.
a week later : anonymous constantly attacks paypal since a week, keeping api.paypal.down and causing them millions in business. paypal comes around, and admits that they have suspended wikileaks due to political pressure.
a few days more with anonymous : paypal releases wikileaks funds that were being held.
today : anonymous starts attacking corporate fax machines.
count the times how many times word 'liebermann' passes in the above chronology.
after pressurizing the PRIVATE companies to cut down a perfectly legitimate customer, while in the meantime totally violating first amendment, modern principle of freedom of speech even outside us constitution, intervening and pressurizing private companies, going against journalistic freedoms, it is only natural that he would come up and pay for the business he cost all those companies. of course, not even counting the clients that started to bail out of american providers. not only payment like paypal etc, but a lot of small to medium size businesses are bailing out of u.s. based web hosting companies, datacenters, and content delivery providers.
surely, joe liebermann has the funds to make up for that business lost. else, he wouldnt be going around violating civil liberties, constitutions, and intervening in business for censorship
right ?