The iOS developer program has a $99 per year fee plus 30 percent of sales, and only developers with a paid-up license can run code they compile on a device they own.
The Xbox Live Indie Games developer program had a $99 per year fee plus 30 percent of sales, and only developers with a paid-up license could run code they compile on a device they own. And it launched prior to the App Store.
Sorry, your calendar needs adjustment.
Community Games were introduced with the New Xbox Experience on November 19, 2008.
The iPhone App Store opened on July 10, 2008.
Now, I don't know about your calendar; but mine has July coming nearly a half year before November. In the tech universe, that's a significant difference.
Because Apple absolutely screwed the mini with the 2014 update. It's now dual core only. I'm running a quad i7 (it does more than merely plex) So if you're running a heavy transcoding media server, you might want the additional 2 cores a pre 2014 mini offers.
Ah, I see...
But, there's more to all this than simply how many cores. Are we SURE that the later CPU has less THROUGHPUT than the earlier one? Honestly, I don't have the time to dig into it right now, but Intel keeps juggling number-of-cores, clock frequency, pipelining, and other esoterica in order to get the most favorable combination of performance per Watt. And often, as you noted above, it greatly depends not only on the TYPE of application; but also the DESIGN of that application, as to what matters, CPU-wise, and what really doesn't.
Maybe I'm just grumpy and old but the whole "Curated" thing is bugging me and seemingly came out of nowhere recently. It's a marketing move intended to lend an air of sophistication to stuff by making them think of museums or wine collections, but it's really all just "stuff that other people kinda like".
Now get off my lawn.
Yes, "Curated" is a term that is dripping in "sophisticated" connotation. But it is also actually correctly used.
But, I must correct you when you say that, in the case of the App Store, that it actually means "stuff that other people kinda like". That is incorrect. I am SURE that there are MANY Apps that make it through the approval process that the "Curators" would NEVER load onto their PERSONAL iOS devices; rather, in Apple's case, it truly IS mostly about making sure an App isn't malicious, with a small side-order of "make sure this doesn't attempt to replace core functionality" and "make sure this doesn't violate other iOS Developer rules."
"Other People Like" is only expressed in the User Reviews; which I don't think is a reason to get an App "De-Listed" (although, in an extreme case, it might cause "further review", which might get something booted; but it would almost certainly have to be something that directly violated the Developer ToS).
Nothing has actually changed, they are just enforcing the existing rules a little more vigorously. Previously they relied on automated scanning and people reporting bad apps, as well as things like excessive refunds. Now they are having humans more involved somehow, but the rules on what is acceptable have not changed.
Maybe not "officially"; but it is still obvious that they now see that the "Curated Collection" concept, a la Apple's App Store "acceptance" procedures, is the right way to go, moving forward; and I believe that the groundwork is being laid to eventually take away that "Allow Apps from Other Places" (paraphrasing) Option in Android.
It's a little difficult to prove direct correlation, as is the usual case with Apple product releases, but if you recall the original announcements for iPhone specifically called for it to run only Web 2.0 applications through Safari. For example. It wasn't until after the first jailbreaks and unofficial third party apps that the App Store came along after weathering objections from Jobs. It's hard to conclusively say whether it was directly in response to jailbreakers or not, but it's likely it sped up their plans.
After reading the 9 to 5 Mac article linked above, I conclude that it really wasn't USER backlash, but DEVELOPER (and Apple-internal) pressures that caused Jobs to embrace the idea of an SDK and App Store. But that article also makes it clear that forces inside Apple were trying to convince Jobs that it was a good idea even before the iPhone launch. The App Store officially launched in July, 2008; so there wasn't too much time wasted.
OTOH, Google Play was launched in March, 2012 (yeah, I was surprised, too!) ; so, I'd still say that Apple's App Store can safely be said to have "come first"...
You're a iOS users, so you're well-aware of how much absolute crap has found it's way in to the App Store. That's not to criticize Apple, there's crap in every OS's store, Google, Microsoft, BlackBerry, Amazon, even Mozilla have "curated" marketplaces full of garbage -- and the cream rarely seems to float to the top.
So now you want to somehow have a Store that only let's the "good" apps in?
Talk about a Walled Garden!!! And whose "taste" are we pleasing? The Curators'? No, that would be too restrictive. Oh wait! I know! Let's let the People who have downloaded the App "rate" it somehow!
Anyone, from casual users to hardcore techies, who want to (gasp) actually use their phones instead of fucking around with rooting are just *BEGGING* for a curated app store to stem the flow of crapware and malware so that they can find good apps. The first of the phone OS giants that figures out the right balance will be rolling in (even more) obscenely ludicrous piles of money from the increase in app sales.
there is value in a walled garden but it is a crutch for the ignorant.
That is a very narrow viewpoint.
The users you dismiss with a wave of the hand as "ignorant", just so happen to comprise everyone who doesn't post regularly on places like Slashdot or Stack Overflow, etc. In other words, about 10,998,999,000 out of the 11,000 000,000 or so people on the Planet.
Oh, I can think of a reason: One or both members of the household has a strong sense of aesthetics and do not want anything resembling a computer in the living room.
Have you ever seen a Mac mini? Deadly silent, low profile, looks like a set top box with no display. Resembles a computer not a whit.
There's zero fucking reason to put an HTPC in a crawl space. Get a small machine and stick it by/behind the TV.
Get a pre 2014 mac mini and run plex on it for a full media server. Attach 1 or 2 externals to it for library storage, or set them up elsewhere. I know, windows... why? But the same rough box specs can be had from various vendors, and you should be able to do the same things with it. You can mount said box anywhere around or behind the TV, along with the appropriate drives, if desired. And it can be cheap.
I agree. I looked into putting an HTPC/surveillance server (Mac mini-based) into my (fairly temperate) crawlspace; but I have reconsidered, mostly for the reasons of humidity and dust others have mentioned. Plex does run well on Macs, and there are several good mobile apps for control.
But Why pre-2014? What changed? GPU support?
This sounds like a blast; but given Google's propensity for getting "bored" with Projects, I wonder how long this will last, after you plunk down your money.
At least, unlike certain other companies, you are free to install software from other sources (without defeating the device that's secured against its own user) if you don't like their store's policies.
I find it troubling that Google wants to dictate what we can and cannot install on our own portable computers. Yes, I realize we can in install things from outside their app store, but, it puts those outside apps at a huge disadvantage. Google has also, many times, showed us it will delete apps for sketchy reasons. Their more open market is the main reason I use android over apples bullshit.
You guys are both way off base with why systemd is a thing, and why launchd wasn't adopted.
Um, quit lumping our statements together.
*I* wasn't saying anything about systemd, per se; as an OS X guy, *my* only question was the "why wasn't launchd adopted, since it was already baked and time-tested".
I see that *you* have failed to answer that as well. This leads me to the inescapable conclusion that it is simply a case of NIH (Not Invented Here), plus the latent Apple-Hate that seems to (needlessly) foment in so many Linux fanbois.
if we're now at the point that content caching is anathema, then we'd better all just unplug from our ISPs and start sneaker netting everything. Or something.
Apple wants to sell you stuff, like iPhones and iPads and iMacs. That's where they get most of their income from. They're primarily interested in making it more tempting to buy stuff from them. Eventually, Apple might wind up with a good revenue stream from this (it happened with the iTunes store), but right now they want to give people a reason to buy the latest iPhone.
Apple wants to sell you stuff, like iPhones and iPads and iMacs. That's where they get most of their income from. They're primarily interested in making it more tempting to buy stuff from them. Eventually, Apple might wind up with a good revenue stream from this (it happened with the iTunes store), but right now they want to give people a reason to buy the latest iPhone.
I agree that Apple is primarily a Hardware company (which, as an aside, is always amazing that they generally do a bangup job on their software, too!) ; but doesn't that fly in the face of the premise of this sub-thread, as expressed by Galaga88, above, that "it seems bizarre for Apple to move forward on their own payment standard rather than the industry creating one. I mean, I know they did it so that they could skim profits off the top..." (which implies a monetizataion other than something focused on driving Hardware Sales).
And Obama voted for all of those bills. He most certainly DID make things worse.
In the case of the USAPATRIOTACT (a 2,000 plus page bill that was SUPPOSEDLY created from scratch in TWO WEEKS!!!), I believe all of Congress save about 3 members voted for that one, and as far as the Bailout, it was 74-25. Yes, Obama did vote for it. I don't know about the Prescription Drug bill.
The LC 520 / Performa 525 / 550 that the Macintosh TV was based on had one PDS slot. I believe they took away the slot and soldered the TV tuner where it was supposed to be.
My dad had a Performa 525 with the Apple II compatibility card in it, and it was quite the solution for it's day - he could still get into his ancient VisiCalc spreadsheets that he'd figured out way back when for formulating bovine nutrition, and I still had (at the time) something modern for doing homework on, and playing the odd game. And, in the Apple II environment, if you wanted to add one of the many hardware additions that was available for the Apple II, it was drag-n-drop emulation.
Pretty cool stuff for 1996.
I think you're right about the Tuner card occupying the PDS slot. Where else would it go? br>
Yeah, my boss had a 550 with the//e Emulation Card in it. It WAS cool! You could even hook one of the 5.25" Floppy Drives (the ones with the nasty ALPS mechanisms and the DB-25 connector) or "DuoDisk" drives (or the RARE! Lyra 3.5" Apple ][ Drives!!!) to it, and yet still hook up to AppleTalk for Printing and Networking.
I still have a working Performa 575 that that card would work in; but they are REALLY hard to find! Oh wait... Maybe not...
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The iOS developer program has a $99 per year fee plus 30 percent of sales, and only developers with a paid-up license can run code they compile on a device they own.
The Xbox Live Indie Games developer program had a $99 per year fee plus 30 percent of sales, and only developers with a paid-up license could run code they compile on a device they own. And it launched prior to the App Store.
Sorry, your calendar needs adjustment.
Community Games were introduced with the New Xbox Experience on November 19, 2008.
The iPhone App Store opened on July 10, 2008.
Now, I don't know about your calendar; but mine has July coming nearly a half year before November. In the tech universe, that's a significant difference.
So only July to October difference on the launch dates which more or less makes them concurrently developed.
Nice try yourself.
...and there were internal talks at Apple regarding the development of an App Store even before Google knew there WAS an iPhone.
Besides, first is first. Android fanbois use that against iOS features that they claim were "stolen" by Apple ALL the time, so...
I wonder what else in your posts you've not checked and attempted to pass off as accurate...
I'm sure you will let me know...
Because Apple absolutely screwed the mini with the 2014 update. It's now dual core only. I'm running a quad i7 (it does more than merely plex) So if you're running a heavy transcoding media server, you might want the additional 2 cores a pre 2014 mini offers.
Ah, I see...
But, there's more to all this than simply how many cores. Are we SURE that the later CPU has less THROUGHPUT than the earlier one? Honestly, I don't have the time to dig into it right now, but Intel keeps juggling number-of-cores, clock frequency, pipelining, and other esoterica in order to get the most favorable combination of performance per Watt. And often, as you noted above, it greatly depends not only on the TYPE of application; but also the DESIGN of that application, as to what matters, CPU-wise, and what really doesn't.
Maybe I'm just grumpy and old but the whole "Curated" thing is bugging me and seemingly came out of nowhere recently. It's a marketing move intended to lend an air of sophistication to stuff by making them think of museums or wine collections, but it's really all just "stuff that other people kinda like".
Now get off my lawn.
Yes, "Curated" is a term that is dripping in "sophisticated" connotation. But it is also actually correctly used.
But, I must correct you when you say that, in the case of the App Store, that it actually means "stuff that other people kinda like". That is incorrect. I am SURE that there are MANY Apps that make it through the approval process that the "Curators" would NEVER load onto their PERSONAL iOS devices; rather, in Apple's case, it truly IS mostly about making sure an App isn't malicious, with a small side-order of "make sure this doesn't attempt to replace core functionality" and "make sure this doesn't violate other iOS Developer rules."
"Other People Like" is only expressed in the User Reviews; which I don't think is a reason to get an App "De-Listed" (although, in an extreme case, it might cause "further review", which might get something booted; but it would almost certainly have to be something that directly violated the Developer ToS).
Nothing has actually changed, they are just enforcing the existing rules a little more vigorously. Previously they relied on automated scanning and people reporting bad apps, as well as things like excessive refunds. Now they are having humans more involved somehow, but the rules on what is acceptable have not changed.
Maybe not "officially"; but it is still obvious that they now see that the "Curated Collection" concept, a la Apple's App Store "acceptance" procedures, is the right way to go, moving forward; and I believe that the groundwork is being laid to eventually take away that "Allow Apps from Other Places" (paraphrasing) Option in Android.
It's a little difficult to prove direct correlation, as is the usual case with Apple product releases, but if you recall the original announcements for iPhone specifically called for it to run only Web 2.0 applications through Safari. For example. It wasn't until after the first jailbreaks and unofficial third party apps that the App Store came along after weathering objections from Jobs. It's hard to conclusively say whether it was directly in response to jailbreakers or not, but it's likely it sped up their plans.
After reading the 9 to 5 Mac article linked above, I conclude that it really wasn't USER backlash, but DEVELOPER (and Apple-internal) pressures that caused Jobs to embrace the idea of an SDK and App Store. But that article also makes it clear that forces inside Apple were trying to convince Jobs that it was a good idea even before the iPhone launch. The App Store officially launched in July, 2008; so there wasn't too much time wasted.
OTOH, Google Play was launched in March, 2012 (yeah, I was surprised, too!) ; so, I'd still say that Apple's App Store can safely be said to have "come first"...
You're a iOS users, so you're well-aware of how much absolute crap has found it's way in to the App Store. That's not to criticize Apple, there's crap in every OS's store, Google, Microsoft, BlackBerry, Amazon, even Mozilla have "curated" marketplaces full of garbage -- and the cream rarely seems to float to the top.
So now you want to somehow have a Store that only let's the "good" apps in?
Talk about a Walled Garden!!! And whose "taste" are we pleasing? The Curators'? No, that would be too restrictive. Oh wait! I know! Let's let the People who have downloaded the App "rate" it somehow!
Oh, wait...
See the problem?
Wow! I must have overslept!
LOL! That's what I get for not checking, first!
Anyone, from casual users to hardcore techies, who want to (gasp) actually use their phones instead of fucking around with rooting are just *BEGGING* for a curated app store to stem the flow of crapware and malware so that they can find good apps. The first of the phone OS giants that figures out the right balance will be rolling in (even more) obscenely ludicrous piles of money from the increase in app sales.
This. Exactly. This.
there is value in a walled garden but it is a crutch for the ignorant.
That is a very narrow viewpoint.
The users you dismiss with a wave of the hand as "ignorant", just so happen to comprise everyone who doesn't post regularly on places like Slashdot or Stack Overflow, etc. In other words, about 10,998,999,000 out of the 11,000 000,000 or so people on the Planet.
Oh, I can think of a reason: One or both members of the household has a strong sense of aesthetics and do not want anything resembling a computer in the living room.
Have you ever seen a Mac mini? Deadly silent, low profile, looks like a set top box with no display. Resembles a computer not a whit.
There's zero fucking reason to put an HTPC in a crawl space. Get a small machine and stick it by/behind the TV.
Get a pre 2014 mac mini and run plex on it for a full media server. Attach 1 or 2 externals to it for library storage, or set them up elsewhere. I know, windows... why? But the same rough box specs can be had from various vendors, and you should be able to do the same things with it. You can mount said box anywhere around or behind the TV, along with the appropriate drives, if desired. And it can be cheap.
I agree. I looked into putting an HTPC/surveillance server (Mac mini-based) into my (fairly temperate) crawlspace; but I have reconsidered, mostly for the reasons of humidity and dust others have mentioned. Plex does run well on Macs, and there are several good mobile apps for control. But Why pre-2014? What changed? GPU support?
This sounds like a blast; but given Google's propensity for getting "bored" with Projects, I wonder how long this will last, after you plunk down your money.
Jus' sayin'...
At least, unlike certain other companies, you are free to install software from other sources (without defeating the device that's secured against its own user) if you don't like their store's policies.
For now...
So perhaps google took the idea from the National Institutes of Health?
Nice try.
I find it troubling that Google wants to dictate what we can and cannot install on our own portable computers. Yes, I realize we can in install things from outside their app store, but, it puts those outside apps at a huge disadvantage. Google has also, many times, showed us it will delete apps for sketchy reasons. Their more open market is the main reason I use android over apples bullshit.
Hee Hee Hee, Ha Ha Ha, Ho, ho...
Tee Hee...
This is truly priceless.
Apples users suggested it to Apple, so it is not an Apple iDea.
Honestly: Citation, please?
Hmmm. Sounds like Google is moving toward the concept of a Curated Collection.
Wonder where they would have gotten THAT Idea...?
You guys are both way off base with why systemd is a thing, and why launchd wasn't adopted.
Um, quit lumping our statements together.
*I* wasn't saying anything about systemd, per se; as an OS X guy, *my* only question was the "why wasn't launchd adopted, since it was already baked and time-tested".
I see that *you* have failed to answer that as well. This leads me to the inescapable conclusion that it is simply a case of NIH (Not Invented Here), plus the latent Apple-Hate that seems to (needlessly) foment in so many Linux fanbois.
Sigh...
if we're now at the point that content caching is anathema, then we'd better all just unplug from our ISPs and start sneaker netting everything. Or something.
Exactly.
Apple wants to sell you stuff, like iPhones and iPads and iMacs. That's where they get most of their income from. They're primarily interested in making it more tempting to buy stuff from them. Eventually, Apple might wind up with a good revenue stream from this (it happened with the iTunes store), but right now they want to give people a reason to buy the latest iPhone.
Apple wants to sell you stuff, like iPhones and iPads and iMacs. That's where they get most of their income from. They're primarily interested in making it more tempting to buy stuff from them. Eventually, Apple might wind up with a good revenue stream from this (it happened with the iTunes store), but right now they want to give people a reason to buy the latest iPhone.
I agree that Apple is primarily a Hardware company (which, as an aside, is always amazing that they generally do a bangup job on their software, too!) ; but doesn't that fly in the face of the premise of this sub-thread, as expressed by Galaga88, above, that "it seems bizarre for Apple to move forward on their own payment standard rather than the industry creating one. I mean, I know they did it so that they could skim profits off the top..." (which implies a monetizataion other than something focused on driving Hardware Sales).
And Obama voted for all of those bills. He most certainly DID make things worse.
In the case of the USAPATRIOTACT (a 2,000 plus page bill that was SUPPOSEDLY created from scratch in TWO WEEKS!!!), I believe all of Congress save about 3 members voted for that one, and as far as the Bailout, it was 74-25. Yes, Obama did vote for it. I don't know about the Prescription Drug bill.
Apple has access to every piece of data that passes through their phones. They know exactly how many transactions they do and for how much.
Citation, please, or STFU.
The LC 520 / Performa 525 / 550 that the Macintosh TV was based on had one PDS slot. I believe they took away the slot and soldered the TV tuner where it was supposed to be.
My dad had a Performa 525 with the Apple II compatibility card in it, and it was quite the solution for it's day - he could still get into his ancient VisiCalc spreadsheets that he'd figured out way back when for formulating bovine nutrition, and I still had (at the time) something modern for doing homework on, and playing the odd game. And, in the Apple II environment, if you wanted to add one of the many hardware additions that was available for the Apple II, it was drag-n-drop emulation.
Pretty cool stuff for 1996.
I think you're right about the Tuner card occupying the PDS slot. Where else would it go? //e Emulation Card in it. It WAS cool! You could even hook one of the 5.25" Floppy Drives (the ones with the nasty ALPS mechanisms and the DB-25 connector) or "DuoDisk" drives (or the RARE! Lyra 3.5" Apple ][ Drives!!!) to it, and yet still hook up to AppleTalk for Printing and Networking.
br> Yeah, my boss had a 550 with the
I still have a working Performa 575 that that card would work in; but they are REALLY hard to find! Oh wait... Maybe not...