a few argue that someone needs to push the needle to move the technology forward.#### What the hell for? Why fix something if it isn't broken? The only forward I see is where everything is encrypted, locked down, welded shut, and sealed in epoxy so you can't do anything without your new masters' blessing This future - DO. NOT. WANT.
Oh, are you still butthurt that you can't change the tubes in your phone's Microcontroller.
We could even argue about what forward means in the first place. Removing something that has worked fine for decades and is still in use today doesn't seem like progress to me.
So, pray tell, in your proposed world, how does any change happen?
Noticeably crappier sound quality, plus yet another device that needs charging and can fail before my phone battery does, and is more expensinve, for what benefit? The lack of a cable that never bothered me anyway? I just dont get it.
I agree about the battery; but Apple is apparently adopting a Bluetooth standard that boasts about 4 X the current standard's battery life.
And speak for yourself about the headphone cable. I HATE having it.
Sounds good... if there isn't a corresponding increase in battery consumption. (i.e. you can't get something for nothing, especially when they constantly try to make phones thinner at the same time for some stupid reason)
Low power bluetooth signal vs powering magnets that are physically driving a plastic cone? The phone's battery is powering the current ear buds. In a wireless scenario the the wireless device has its own battery.
So what if Apple does what some Android OEMs have done and adopt USB-C for the headphone out? Since no one knows for sure about any of this, why has everyone decided they don't like what Apple hasn't even announced?
Hell, Apple hasn't even made the product name public, or even admitted there is a new model yet, FFS!
You're still relying on the audio hardware running in the headphone as opposed to the expensive device you payed for it in.
So, think of it the other way: At least you can make the audio better by purchasing different earbuds/earphones/DAC-adapter rather than having to rely on the luck-of-the-draw audio hardware in your expensive device. Afterall, who in their right mind purchases a phone primarily based on its audio fidelity?
You are forgetting Joe Average User whose phone carrier tells them they're eligible for an upgrade to the latest new shiny, who eagerly accepts the latest new shiny without asking questions and then finds that the latest new shiny is missing an essential feature that the old shiny had always had and that Mr. Average User here would never have conceived their new improved shiny might possibly lack.
Then, they'll use the included wireless earbuds and suddenly realize they really don't miss that frickin' headphone cable dangling around and constantly getting caught in everything. And no, stuffing the excess cable into your pocket isn't a good solution, either; it just trades dangling for having insufficient "slack" for free movement.
Removing the headphone jack is so god damn stupid I can't believe they will actually do it.
That's where your ignorance shows. Jobs hated ALL Ports. He would have made the removal of the 3.5mm jack seem like the sexiest thing that had ever happened!
Apple will do no fixes of anything until it learns its lesson with very bad iPhone 7 sales because of the removal of the 3.5mm audio jack. Apple are no longer trend setting, they are losing sales to Far East Android phones giving people mostly what they want in a phone shows.
And all this will be moot next year, when every Far East Android phone drops its 3.5mm jack, too.
This fall, my next laptop might very well be Windows. The fact the MBP lineup has been flat these past generations, combined with some really fucking stupid decisions (USB-C), and now this fiasco with the iPhone 7... yeah, Apple, your innovation has been sucking balls lately.
Stay tuned. The MacBook Pro is about to get a (much needed) update. Should happen in October.
iPhone doesn't support the existing high-end AptX codec which delivers low-latency, high-quality sound over Bluetooth.
Apple is good at moving toward the past and pretending it's moving toward the future.
Wrong.
Instead of just switching CODECS like with AptX, Apple is in fact adopting a standard, BT 5.0, which actually HAS more bandwidth, and also has focused on improving audio quality and (drastically) reducing latency.
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Why don't you go fuck yourself.
Won't reach.
Change happens when something better replaces something that was working fine before.
And therein lies the rub: Define "Better". In many ways, "Better" is often a very subjective, and personal, metric.
No bass, mostly.
Ah, so you mean "No thump", right?
You do realize, of course, that that comes from years of listening to everything with a Bass Boost, right?
Hey, I like "Thump", too; but it ain't an accurate frequency response. Just a "pleasing" one to many.
but even with $200 bluetooth headphones, the sound seems flat in most that I have tried.
Please define "flat" in this context; since with audio reproduction, "flat" response is generally thought to be a good thing.
It consistently rates higher than any other Bluetooth audio experience
Including the upcoming BT 5 that Apple is reportedly going to use?
Anyone else suddenly wondering what type of music Woz listens to?
Primarily 50's through 90s rock. Next question?
having bluetooth enabled on the iPhone to play music is one of the quickest ways to kill battery.
Apple is reportedly using BT 5, which boasts quadruple the battery life of current BT.
a few argue that someone needs to push the needle to move the technology forward.#### What the hell for? Why fix something if it isn't broken? The only forward I see is where everything is encrypted, locked down, welded shut, and sealed in epoxy so you can't do anything without your new masters' blessing This future - DO. NOT. WANT.
Oh, are you still butthurt that you can't change the tubes in your phone's Microcontroller.
Steve Wozniak, CEO of Apple, Inc.
nice ring to it, huh? why the hell didn't that happen?
I begged him to do exactly that when Jobs got really sick.
We could even argue about what forward means in the first place. Removing something that has worked fine for decades and is still in use today doesn't seem like progress to me.
So, pray tell, in your proposed world, how does any change happen?
why does every single manufacturer have this obsession with making their devices thinner.
FTFY
Noticeably crappier sound quality, plus yet another device that needs charging and can fail before my phone battery does, and is more expensinve, for what benefit? The lack of a cable that never bothered me anyway? I just dont get it.
I agree about the battery; but Apple is apparently adopting a Bluetooth standard that boasts about 4 X the current standard's battery life.
And speak for yourself about the headphone cable. I HATE having it.
I always turn my bluetooth off to prevent location tracking. Now Apple pushes for it to be on when listening to music.
Apple, I thought you were starting to take privacy seriously?
It's WiFi that can be used for Location-Tracking. Not so much Bluetooth. Its range is too limited.
Jobs was the face of Apple, not the heart of Apple. That heart lies in the engineering talent.
Hear, Hear!
Or as the Millenials say: This.
Reposting to fix some sort of ridiculous Quoting fuck-up. Sorry!
Jobs was the face of Apple, not the heart of Apple. That heart lies in the engineering talent.
Hear, Hear!
Or as the Millenials say: This.
Sounds good ... if there isn't a corresponding increase in battery consumption. (i.e. you can't get something for nothing, especially when they constantly try to make phones thinner at the same time for some stupid reason)
Low power bluetooth signal vs powering magnets that are physically driving a plastic cone? The phone's battery is powering the current ear buds. In a wireless scenario the the wireless device has its own battery.
So what if Apple does what some Android OEMs have done and adopt USB-C for the headphone out? Since no one knows for sure about any of this, why has everyone decided they don't like what Apple hasn't even announced?
Hell, Apple hasn't even made the product name public, or even admitted there is a new model yet, FFS!
You're still relying on the audio hardware running in the headphone as opposed to the expensive device you payed for it in.
So, think of it the other way: At least you can make the audio better by purchasing different earbuds/earphones/DAC-adapter rather than having to rely on the luck-of-the-draw audio hardware in your expensive device. Afterall, who in their right mind purchases a phone primarily based on its audio fidelity?
You are forgetting Joe Average User whose phone carrier tells them they're eligible for an upgrade to the latest new shiny, who eagerly accepts the latest new shiny without asking questions and then finds that the latest new shiny is missing an essential feature that the old shiny had always had and that Mr. Average User here would never have conceived their new improved shiny might possibly lack.
Then, they'll use the included wireless earbuds and suddenly realize they really don't miss that frickin' headphone cable dangling around and constantly getting caught in everything. And no, stuffing the excess cable into your pocket isn't a good solution, either; it just trades dangling for having insufficient "slack" for free movement.
Cables are so 20th Century...
Removing the headphone jack is so god damn stupid I can't believe they will actually do it.
That's where your ignorance shows. Jobs hated ALL Ports. He would have made the removal of the 3.5mm jack seem like the sexiest thing that had ever happened!
Salesmen at carrier phone stores even put it this way.
Not if they want to remain employed...
Apple will do no fixes of anything until it learns its lesson with very bad iPhone 7 sales because of the removal of the 3.5mm audio jack. Apple are no longer trend setting, they are losing sales to Far East Android phones giving people mostly what they want in a phone shows.
And all this will be moot next year, when every Far East Android phone drops its 3.5mm jack, too.
USB-C will be on all machines, laptops and desktops, within a few years. Sorry, but the classic USB plug is obsolete.
Thank Fucking God!!!
This fall, my next laptop might very well be Windows. The fact the MBP lineup has been flat these past generations, combined with some really fucking stupid decisions (USB-C), and now this fiasco with the iPhone 7... yeah, Apple, your innovation has been sucking balls lately.
Stay tuned. The MacBook Pro is about to get a (much needed) update. Should happen in October.
Aptx? Oh, you mean that CODEC that was developed in the 1980s, and is currently a Proprietary CODEC owned and commercialized by CSR, Inc. (now owned by Qualcomm)?
Yeah, that's REALLY "moving toward the future".
iPhone doesn't support the existing high-end AptX codec which delivers low-latency, high-quality sound over Bluetooth.
Apple is good at moving toward the past and pretending it's moving toward the future.
Wrong.
Instead of just switching CODECS like with AptX, Apple is in fact adopting a standard, BT 5.0, which actually HAS more bandwidth, and also has focused on improving audio quality and (drastically) reducing latency.