However, Hater, your attempt is still laughable, for the following reasons:
1. This is OBVIOUSLY a person with an intermittent Home Button in HARDWARE, as referenced by the fact that using the even MORE dependent on SOFTWARE five-finger-pinch GESTURE seemed to FIX their issue.
2. Even though this Apple forum post is from FIVE YEARS AGO, there are ABSOLUTELY ZERO "ME TOO" POSTS IN THE THREAD, further underscoring that this was an extremely rare HARDWARE issue with THIS PARTICULAR IPAD.
But Haters just GOTTA Hate, I guess...
By the way, the iPad 2 that I am typing this on sees about 6 to 10 hours of usage, including MANY ?Home Button-Presses, EVERY SINGLE DAY since I got it several years ago, and I have YET to have the Home Button to even give an INKLING of intermittent behavior. I keep worrying that that may happen someday; but so far, it hasn't.
But in fact, there actually IS a fairly-rare issue with certain iPad Home Buttons becoming intermittent, But again, it ALWAYS appears to be a HARDWARE failure restricted to a particular iPad (despite some voodoo "fixes" reported by a few posters), and NOT the "App won't Suspend" SOFTWARE problem that was originally complained of by the OP.
The lying they did and folding at the last minute should count as precedent anyway. The next judge should say to the FBI, "you lied to the court last time about a large number of things. dismissed with prejudice!".
The iPhone SE (which is the closest thing to an heir-apparent to the 5C, and is also the most-recent model) was shipped in the U.S. and several other countries starting on March 31, 2016.
By my estimation, that is around 2 1/2 years. And in that time, there has been the 5s, the 6 and the 6s in between the 5C and the SE. So that actually sounds like FOUR revisions, not even counting concurrent variants, like the 6 plus and the 6s plus.
FBI has previously noted that the technique it utilized in breaking into the iPhone 5c does not work with any new iPhone models (iPhone 5s or newer).
I wouldn't believe a single word from these assholes.
I wouldn't either; but it is true that after the 5c, all iPhones have the "Secure Enclave" chip, and thus are MUCH harder to crack. So, it is at least plausible.
I really wonder which hackers they hired... someone they are investigating, or just a dark web personal ad from Estonia. The more they say the more idiotic they sound. The FBI sounds as inefficient as the TSA and Congress. A bunch of blowhards with authority that can't get the job done properly because nobody trusts or likes how they operate. Public servants that are always at odds with the public, and never have any good news to report. Nevertheless, never getting the job done is the only job security that exists anymore.
Since they have changed their "post-hack" story at least once, I submit that the FBI either already had the phone hacked (sans Apple's help), OR they never DID get into the phone (more likely); but needed a plausible excuse to sabotage their own legal efforts, since it was pretty clear that the Court case was NOT going to go their way, and they didn't want to set THAT Precedent.
Not at all. This whole thing was one big security circus. Apple got tons of free press and saved it's face, FBI got what it wanted - a precedent. An local police has a new best friend.
Only one who got fucked in this deal is you, dear tax payer.
You're so full of shit it's running out of your ears.
Apple got as much negative press as positive. Maybe more. There are a BUNCH of people that still think that Apple is marketing to Terrists. THAT kind of publicity really DOESN'T fall under the adage of "Any publicity is good publicity."
Also, the FBI got NO legal precedent. They FOLDED, right before they were going to court for that, probably because the Amicus Curiae Briefs and even some really high-up Government Officials in the Intelligence Sector in support of Apple were piling up as high as the sky, and the FBI was AFRAID of the "Precedent" they WERE going to set...
They paid a one time fee for an exploit. That exploit could in theory work on any iPhone 5c (unpatched), and there are plenty of those waiting around in evidence lockers.
If the article stated somewhere that the FBI paid for a one-time crack only, not the exploit itself (which is stupid beyond belief for a government agency) then I'm sorry.
Actually, that was one of Apple's less-successful models in terms of sales numbers. So, I would imagine that, while there are undoubtedly some in evidence rooms, they are not as prevalent as some of the other models.
I have had iphone apps freak out and not let the home button go home,
Honestly, I have never seen that on iOS.
I have owned an iPad2 for several years, as well as both an iPhone 4s and 6 Plus, across several versions of iOS and quite a few Apps, and I have never seen the Home button refuse to Suspend whatever App and yank you back to Springboard. I have had my iPhone kind of go "unresponsive" once or twice, to the point that I had to do a soft-reboot; but never have I been just "trapped in an App".
And doing a quick Google search for "iOS home button won't suspend app", I find nothing that is relevant. In fact, the only thing that was even close was an article about "intermittent" home button hardware, which apparently was an occasional issue before the iPhone 5. Could this be what you were actually experiencing?
I know anecdotes are not data; and I don't doubt that an App could be coded so poorly that that could never happen; but I have to wonder on what App(s) and what iOS Version(s) (and I guess what device(s)) have you seen this happen? Not trolling or shilling; just curious.
OS X has had built-in read-only NTFS support since I think day one. I have definitely read NTFS drives with OS X. And since MS has never published the specs for Write or Format for NTFS, they can hardly be blamed. But apparently, you actually can enable NTFS WRITE (don't know about Formatting) on a per-Drive basis. Or, if you just want to pull out your wallet, these guys offer full NTFS support in OS X for the princely sum of $16.95.
But MacFuse brings supposedly full NTFS support (disclaimer: Never tried it) to at least Userland on OS X.
If phones today were only a few Millimeters thicker for more battery capacity we would have phones that easily go multiple days between charging.
My iPhone 6 plus lasts pretty much all week (at least 4 days, often more), using it in talk mode for about 2 hours daily and with WiFi on continuously. YMMV. I don't game, but I do a fair amount of email and surfing on a daily basis, along with Apple Music streaming both over WiFi or Cellular pretty much all day at work as well as on the 45 min drive to/from work (1.5 hr total).
long story short not something id spend 300-700 on, but cool for free
So, this article whines about the Apple Watch supposedly not being successful; but then Slamdung is down to including theirs FOR FREE, like some sort of prize in the bottom of a box of cereal!
hey very highly control, to the exclusion of compatibility with non-Apple *stuff*, their ecosystems
With the exception of their penchant for ever-changing video connectors, Apple has an excellent track record overall (especially on the software side) of being very standards-compliant. MUCH, MUCH better than MS, for example.
Completely agree about the interface being a bit wierd. it took watching several videos to figure out how to get to the main menu.. it is absolutely a training required product.
My old Pebble for example pressing the center button ALWAYS brought you to the menu. the apple watch the crown button does different things based on where you are. very confusing to new owners and even apple device users.
Doesn't clicking on the Crown always return you to the Home screen?
He's really looking forward to that one with the amoled display and the curved screen. Which Samsung has had for a couple years now.
If you knew anything about embedded development, and particularly AMOLED development, you would understand why that is.
There are VERY few "glass" manufacturers in the world. Samsung happens to be one of them; but more importantly, Samsung is probably the hands-down leader in AMOLED technology. They have poured a BUNCH of development effort into fixing the inherent problems with AMOLEDs (to greater or lesser success, depending on what metric you look at); but one of the ones that they have had a hard time with is YIELD. It's a fact that when a new iPhone comes out, there is a HUGE demand for it immediately. And up until now (and maybe even still now), Samsung simply cannot supply that "burst" demand. Plus, I think that Samsung purposely priced their AMOLEDs such that Apple would not consider them (probably somewhat worried that they couldn't meet demand even IF Apple placed an Order).
But, by comparison, the demand-curve for Samsung phones (and all other phones besides the iPhone) is MUCH "flatter"; so Samsung's yield for their AMOLED panels has a much better chance of keeping up with demand.
Its been said numerous times that the iphone 5c is less secure than the more recent models, they could be telling the truth. Sounds more like they are setting themselves up to have another legal battle against apple. The US government cant even protect their own data yet they want direct access to private communications of US citizens. To me that just says they just want more control.
So basically, they're saying is that if the device has Apple's Secure Enclave chip, then their hacking tool won't work. Night surprised.
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They wanted an out because they did not want a legal precedent set that looked like it was going against them. Simple as that.
Do you have your half-duplex switch set correctly? There seems to be an echo in here.
https://www.google.com/search?q=ipad+won%27t+go+home
Wow!
Boy, you had to dig DEEP for that one!
However, Hater, your attempt is still laughable, for the following reasons:
1. This is OBVIOUSLY a person with an intermittent Home Button in HARDWARE, as referenced by the fact that using the even MORE dependent on SOFTWARE five-finger-pinch GESTURE seemed to FIX their issue.
2. Even though this Apple forum post is from FIVE YEARS AGO, there are ABSOLUTELY ZERO "ME TOO" POSTS IN THE THREAD, further underscoring that this was an extremely rare HARDWARE issue with THIS PARTICULAR IPAD.
But Haters just GOTTA Hate, I guess...
By the way, the iPad 2 that I am typing this on sees about 6 to 10 hours of usage, including MANY ?Home Button-Presses, EVERY SINGLE DAY since I got it several years ago, and I have YET to have the Home Button to even give an INKLING of intermittent behavior. I keep worrying that that may happen someday; but so far, it hasn't.
But in fact, there actually IS a fairly-rare issue with certain iPad Home Buttons becoming intermittent, But again, it ALWAYS appears to be a HARDWARE failure restricted to a particular iPad (despite some voodoo "fixes" reported by a few posters), and NOT the "App won't Suspend" SOFTWARE problem that was originally complained of by the OP.
The lying they did and folding at the last minute should count as precedent anyway. The next judge should say to the FBI, "you lied to the court last time about a large number of things. dismissed with prejudice!".
We can but hope!
So...about a year-and-a-half, then.
Nope, sorry.
The iPhone 5C was released in September, 2013.
The iPhone SE (which is the closest thing to an heir-apparent to the 5C, and is also the most-recent model) was shipped in the U.S. and several other countries starting on March 31, 2016.
By my estimation, that is around 2 1/2 years. And in that time, there has been the 5s, the 6 and the 6s in between the 5C and the SE. So that actually sounds like FOUR revisions, not even counting concurrent variants, like the 6 plus and the 6s plus.
FBI has previously noted that the technique it utilized in breaking into the iPhone 5c does not work with any new iPhone models (iPhone 5s or newer).
I wouldn't believe a single word from these assholes.
I wouldn't either; but it is true that after the 5c, all iPhones have the "Secure Enclave" chip, and thus are MUCH harder to crack. So, it is at least plausible.
I really wonder which hackers they hired... someone they are investigating, or just a dark web personal ad from Estonia. The more they say the more idiotic they sound. The FBI sounds as inefficient as the TSA and Congress. A bunch of blowhards with authority that can't get the job done properly because nobody trusts or likes how they operate. Public servants that are always at odds with the public, and never have any good news to report. Nevertheless, never getting the job done is the only job security that exists anymore.
Since they have changed their "post-hack" story at least once, I submit that the FBI either already had the phone hacked (sans Apple's help), OR they never DID get into the phone (more likely); but needed a plausible excuse to sabotage their own legal efforts, since it was pretty clear that the Court case was NOT going to go their way, and they didn't want to set THAT Precedent.
Not at all. This whole thing was one big security circus. Apple got tons of free press and saved it's face, FBI got what it wanted - a precedent. An local police has a new best friend.
Only one who got fucked in this deal is you, dear tax payer.
You're so full of shit it's running out of your ears.
Apple got as much negative press as positive. Maybe more. There are a BUNCH of people that still think that Apple is marketing to Terrists. THAT kind of publicity really DOESN'T fall under the adage of "Any publicity is good publicity."
Also, the FBI got NO legal precedent. They FOLDED, right before they were going to court for that, probably because the Amicus Curiae Briefs and even some really high-up Government Officials in the Intelligence Sector in support of Apple were piling up as high as the sky, and the FBI was AFRAID of the "Precedent" they WERE going to set...
and a potential boon for Apple as all these customers still using last year's model now have to upgrade to this year's models!
The 5c was three revisions ago at this point. Do try to keep up.
They paid a one time fee for an exploit. That exploit could in theory work on any iPhone 5c (unpatched), and there are plenty of those waiting around in evidence lockers.
If the article stated somewhere that the FBI paid for a one-time crack only, not the exploit itself (which is stupid beyond belief for a government agency) then I'm sorry.
Actually, that was one of Apple's less-successful models in terms of sales numbers. So, I would imagine that, while there are undoubtedly some in evidence rooms, they are not as prevalent as some of the other models.
I have had iphone apps freak out and not let the home button go home,
Honestly, I have never seen that on iOS.
I have owned an iPad2 for several years, as well as both an iPhone 4s and 6 Plus, across several versions of iOS and quite a few Apps, and I have never seen the Home button refuse to Suspend whatever App and yank you back to Springboard. I have had my iPhone kind of go "unresponsive" once or twice, to the point that I had to do a soft-reboot; but never have I been just "trapped in an App".
And doing a quick Google search for "iOS home button won't suspend app", I find nothing that is relevant. In fact, the only thing that was even close was an article about "intermittent" home button hardware, which apparently was an occasional issue before the iPhone 5. Could this be what you were actually experiencing?
I know anecdotes are not data; and I don't doubt that an App could be coded so poorly that that could never happen; but I have to wonder on what App(s) and what iOS Version(s) (and I guess what device(s)) have you seen this happen? Not trolling or shilling; just curious.
You can kludge anything.
You're right. Just ask Linux. Afterall, the entire OS is a kludge of Unix.
NTFS
OS X has had built-in read-only NTFS support since I think day one. I have definitely read NTFS drives with OS X. And since MS has never published the specs for Write or Format for NTFS, they can hardly be blamed. But apparently, you actually can enable NTFS WRITE (don't know about Formatting) on a per-Drive basis. Or, if you just want to pull out your wallet, these guys offer full NTFS support in OS X for the princely sum of $16.95.
But MacFuse brings supposedly full NTFS support (disclaimer: Never tried it) to at least Userland on OS X.
Android
Seriously?
NFS3
Not out-of-the box; but it supposedly can be fairly easily done with a little Terminal witchery.
nor did the DynaBook
Yes, but only one of those was ever a real product. (Much as I love the concept of the Dynabook (which begat the Mac).
For anything more than a tweet, I'd much rather have a full keyboard and mouse, with an eye-level display. It's easier on the neck...
But damned hard to stick in your pocket...
If phones today were only a few Millimeters thicker for more battery capacity we would have phones that easily go multiple days between charging.
My iPhone 6 plus lasts pretty much all week (at least 4 days, often more), using it in talk mode for about 2 hours daily and with WiFi on continuously. YMMV. I don't game, but I do a fair amount of email and surfing on a daily basis, along with Apple Music streaming both over WiFi or Cellular pretty much all day at work as well as on the 45 min drive to/from work (1.5 hr total).
long story short not something id spend 300-700 on, but cool for free
So, this article whines about the Apple Watch supposedly not being successful; but then Slamdung is down to including theirs FOR FREE, like some sort of prize in the bottom of a box of cereal!
Now THAT's funny!
hey very highly control, to the exclusion of compatibility with non-Apple *stuff*, their ecosystems
With the exception of their penchant for ever-changing video connectors, Apple has an excellent track record overall (especially on the software side) of being very standards-compliant. MUCH, MUCH better than MS, for example.
I'm not sure it's junk, but it shows that the Apple "halo-effect" is a crack in its reality distortion field.
So did the Apple III, Apple Lisa, Apple Macintosh Portable, Apple Newton, Apple Pippen, 20th Anniversary Mac, Apple eMate, and the Power Mac g4 Cube.
Now, wanna list the products that were successful? Hint: It's a pretty damned long list.
Completely agree about the interface being a bit wierd. it took watching several videos to figure out how to get to the main menu.. it is absolutely a training required product.
My old Pebble for example pressing the center button ALWAYS brought you to the menu. the apple watch the crown button does different things based on where you are. very confusing to new owners and even apple device users.
Doesn't clicking on the Crown always return you to the Home screen?
The MS store at my local mall is usually has a crowd playing free xbox games on the giant screens.
But does anyone ever buy anything?
my Surface is a Workstation
For certain, very limited values of "Workstation".
He's really looking forward to that one with the amoled display and the curved screen. Which Samsung has had for a couple years now.
If you knew anything about embedded development, and particularly AMOLED development, you would understand why that is.
There are VERY few "glass" manufacturers in the world. Samsung happens to be one of them; but more importantly, Samsung is probably the hands-down leader in AMOLED technology. They have poured a BUNCH of development effort into fixing the inherent problems with AMOLEDs (to greater or lesser success, depending on what metric you look at); but one of the ones that they have had a hard time with is YIELD. It's a fact that when a new iPhone comes out, there is a HUGE demand for it immediately. And up until now (and maybe even still now), Samsung simply cannot supply that "burst" demand. Plus, I think that Samsung purposely priced their AMOLEDs such that Apple would not consider them (probably somewhat worried that they couldn't meet demand even IF Apple placed an Order).
But, by comparison, the demand-curve for Samsung phones (and all other phones besides the iPhone) is MUCH "flatter"; so Samsung's yield for their AMOLED panels has a much better chance of keeping up with demand.
The iPhone 6 was a design disaster.
Really? How so? And don't bring up "Bendgate"; that was WAAAAY overblown.
I generally love my 6 Plus. Insanely good battery life, LOUD speaker, nice camera, good WiFi. What's not to like?
You know we would never lie to you....
You KNOW that
Its been said numerous times that the iphone 5c is less secure than the more recent models, they could be telling the truth. Sounds more like they are setting themselves up to have another legal battle against apple. The US government cant even protect their own data yet they want direct access to private communications of US citizens. To me that just says they just want more control.
So basically, they're saying is that if the device has Apple's Secure Enclave chip, then their hacking tool won't work. Night surprised.
Administration is Deeply Divided on the issue.
That's code for "Yeah, everybody told us the FBI is off in left-field on this one."
Sounds like cooler heads are starting to prevail, Thank Cthulu.