In such cases it is paramount that you contact the hardware vendor and insist that they provide an updated driver to ensure that it works in your environment. One thing that does worry me is that some will have an OEM driver. What is to prevent a driver rolled out through the Microsoft Update service from forcing an install of an ineffective driver when you already have one from the OEM's site with a different version number?
Yup. I know they have one online. I used to subscribe to OED's online site. I now have asked my "local" library (it is actually a 75 minute drive away) and can just access it for free so I no longer pay for it directly. Your local library likely has a subscription (I think that is what they call it) and you can enter the numbers in the box and be done with it. It worked for me, at least. I find them handy when I am looking up more than just a definition.
It would be nice if they would fix the code, support UTF-8, and *maybe* find a way for us to edit it on our own for our own consumption. I can imagine that doing so would not be too difficult as a user could load their own per-user code automatically including our own CSS. I seem to recall having seen a few sites that allow this though I can not think of any off the top of my head.
Ebay is addictive. *sighs* Ask me how I know... No, don't. I went through an addictive type of spell where I pretty much won an auction every day of the week. I got lots of cool stuff at great prices. I needed almost none of it. I bought things just because the "price was right." I have an inbound POTS switch from a defunct ISP.
The person selling it said something along the lines of, "I have no idea what this is but it has pretty blinking blue lights." It cost them more to ship it to me than I paid. I knew what it was and, in my head I had a use for it. (I was going to allow folks to dial in and then use my broadband on a dedicated second line.)
I was recently going through some of my "stuff." I came across it and recalled the story. It made me chuckle a little and I kept it because I was going through the clean out process to donate stuff to a local elementary school and I figured I would not foist junk on them.
Anyhow, that device was pretty much the straw that broke the proverbial camel's back. It is strange and keeps showing up in real life or in a bizarre dream. I consider it my personal Twilight Zone episode or Edgar Allan Poe poem. When I do come across it again I tend to power it up and make sure the lights still blink. I suspect that if I give or throw it away then bad things will happen to me. The only way I can safely rid myself of the device is to auction it off via Ebay.
Businesses would be better served using a version other than the home version. This time around, the home version really does mean that. I liken it to a starter or minimal edition. As such it should be treated accordingly. In your proposed scenario they would be able to defer the updates and, in the meantime, the company can provide better drivers. Obviously there was no pressing reason before the new updates or you would have already had issues in your scenario and a botched update would make not one bit of difference to in said scenario. So they could keep the drivers they had until the updated drivers were fixed. There is such a thing as internal patch testing and it is an important step before rolling code out into production.
My understanding is, and I spend some time in the seedy underbelly of the 'net hanging out with and learning from them, that Windows 10 will not be easy to crack. What is likely to happen is that they will need to patch in a different address for authentication servers. The consensus seems to be that this is the only *likely* way to accomplish this. That is all well and good and will work for a time. (Un)fortunately, Microsoft is pretty smart and have better tools. (Also it is trivial to see where the new authentication server exists on the 'net.) They will get any such server disabled quickly. So, while you will have an authenticated system it will not last long if you want to keep it up to date and authentication is done at random times as well as during updates or qualifying for Genuine Advantage software. You could probably keep it going for quite a while without updating but that would just be silly.
One of the more interesting proposals was to, in effect, insert a TOR client or P2P client and do the authentication over that. This is potentially a good idea and could even be a secondary method for update sources instead of using Windows' servers for the part. Obviously this would require one trusting the source which seems unlikely. This could also be a handy route for installing malware or compromising systems. A system designed/compromised in this manner would be more difficult to get shut down. It would also be a lot of work to incorporate but not impossible. We will have to see what happens.
As an MSDN subscriber I am not worried, personally, but I am interested in the results and will keep following along to see what happens. It would be an interesting hack if they can pull it off. As destructive as it is I am sort of rooting for them. It is not that I want to see them succeed so much as it is that I want to see them putting the effort into it and see how far along they get. It would be more beneficial if they worked on more productive projects but pirating Windows seems to be a tradition. I strongly suspect that the folks who work on such can easily afford to get Windows on their own and that this sort of thing is more a hobby than anything else but I could be projecting.
I like to play a bunch so I have owned an MSDN subscription for many years now. I buy the top-most subscription because I want access to all of it. I tend to pick and choose across the spectrum. This is, obviously, not a solution for everyone but it works for me. AFAIK (and this is actually trickier than one might expect) I only have two Windows-based PCs in the house. I still keep my MSDN subscription though. (I do have bare metal restore options that let me put a Windows OS back on the PCs pretty quickly should I ever have a need to do so.)
This is a long story, I will try to keep it short.
I gave away a bunch of modern (but older and not in use) hardware to the CompSci department at a local elementary school. I even transfered all licenses to them (which meant I had to do some work because most of the boxes had an MSDN install on them). I shoved all of my keyboards out the door and my mice and all of those things. Well, pretty much all.
Then, on a lark (I was not even drunk) I went on a rampage. I installed every single flavor of the top twenty listed at DistroWatch. I did this all in VMware first. Anything that worked got stuffed onto at least one computer around the house. I am a geek - I have a lot of computers including a whole lab and server room in my basement.
So, happy as a clam I meandered from room to room and computer to computer to configure and play. I happily got VNC working on pretty much all of them (I have not found a BSD that makes me happy and CentOS is really bloated. Ubuntu is not cool. I need to try some other desktop environments in Ubuntu. I love Mint with Cinnamon.)
So, happy as a clam... I finally discover, to my dismay, that I have but one Windows system left. Not to fear... I root around and find a second one that missed my manic upgrade. Now I have a Windows desktop. The trouble is, my desktop is Vista... Now, Vista is awesome after SP1 and even better after SP2. It is on great hardware and it runs fine.
So, keyboard time... Umm... I gave those away! Damn it. Well, I have others...
Now I could swap them out but, keep in mind, I am inherently lazy. I wish this were not true. I worked hard so I could be lazy. I would drive to the kitchen if I could. Oddly I am not fat but I digress.
So I root around and find a keyboard. It is a COMPAQ branded critter. It is older than I expected, I suppose. It must be as I can find not one driver for it. In fact, it doe not appear to need a driver. Yet, every time I have since started this system it happily asks me for a driver. By happy I mean it insists on one. If I tell it to go find one, tell it where one is, or anything it spits at me and calls me names.
However, if I let it do its thing UNTIL it spits at me of its own volition and just close the damned thing then it not only works just fine but it also has the added functionality of all the other keys. Every generic keyboard driver, and I have tried more than a few, is spit out as being not made for the device and no - no I can not tell it to use it and like it.
Now I could, and likely will, swap it out with another that does work. I have yet to get around to doing so and figure that it may be a bunch of effort finding one that Just Works®. I could also buy a new one but, as I mentioned, I just got rid of a bunch of stuff just to be rid of it. I accumulate way too much stuff and the larger the house is the more I will accumulate. I have storage spaces scattered to the four winds and own more superfluous junk than any human should. The only thing stopping me from being a hoarder is the fact that I hire someone to clean my house and I hate clutter for very long so I keep things organized, otherwise I'd be some embarrassed gent on the television in one of those night time reality shows.
My point is that the Windows driver process is broken. I used to be able to tell my computer to use the driver I specified even if it did not match what it was expecting. Now? It just so happens that the driver it bitches about not having (and checking drivermgmt.msc is not listed) is not needed because the damned thing works just fine without it. Why can I not save it in that state? Even the function buttons work - such as volume up and down. All while it claims to not have a driver and only after letting it do its thing and then quitting in the middle of it when it says it can not find the online driver and wants me to specify a volume to look for it. The process is broken and broken at a number of places.
I say this as a huge fan of Microsoft. I honestly feel that they have driven inn
I thought the same thing. Get out of my head! Literally - word for word and in that same order. I think I may have included "it is" in my thinking but it parses exactly the same and is not trivial for me to verify. How very strange.
I mined 48 of them when they first started coming out with the software to do it. It was easy then. I donated them to EFF some time back. They were worth a goodly sum by then. Hopefully they capitalized on it right away because the price went down not long after. I did not want to additional taxation, hassle, or association.
This... But I really do not care about/. karma (somehow I have excellent karma though I have been on-topic twice and only a few times not written a novella). Worse? I do not even moderate. I used to never moderate down but now I do not moderate up either. I just let the points sit idle.
It is to get one made up but I no longer own even a single vehicle that I would allow a bumper sticker on. I have a barn and a garage full of vehicles but I do not hate them enough to put bumper stickers on them. There is something to be said about the days when you owned cheap cars and did not care about them.
That is how it should be. I have access in my state to the laws. No case law or anything but I do have the laws. I can just go to the law library if I want to access the digital case law and annotations.
I honestly have no idea what they use. The one time I was in court and saw a judge use a dictionary it was the OED but I have also heard many references to the OED. OED has American English in it. I think they have an American English version even.
"PR guy" is, literally, Public Relations or Press Release guy. It is hardly surprising that the news publishes what they get from a press release. Obviously I wish there were more investigative reporting but there was no glorious past where there was a perfect journalism. Yellow journalism has always been the trend, so much so that we have a special name for it. In fact, I dare say we have more access to alternative journalism than we have ever had before. Because we seem inclined to live in an echo chamber and consume our journalism media from a source that confirms our biases we seem to think that everyone does the same and that nothing else is available. Reality is that such is usually available on any given topic and it is just a click away with a search engine and a browser. The people without said search engine and browser combination are not typically on Slashdot.
I am kind of proud that I throw my vote away on third parties almost exclusively. I have voted for the winning candidate (of any federal election) a total of twice in 40 years and have only voted for a wining candidate a handful of times at the state level. It does not make me feel like a 'loser.' In fact, I feel more civic-minded because of this. I vote for the person I feel will best represent my interests. That person just never gets elected and the person who is more aligned with my political views is usually a third party candidate.
And now the US babysits you so that you stop bombing yourselves into rubble every couple of generations and then whining until someone comes to clean up your mess.
Nobody is forced to directly pay for it unless they watch it. Perhaps you do not understand the system... You could, theoretically, claim that taxes pay for the courts to enforce this but you could also easily claim the taxes pay for the roads for them to get to work. In other words, stupid is bad - do not be stupid.
I probably should have said a "generic you." Most of the time, it seems, bothering to explain is pointless. I, personally, love to learn new things and often go so far as to point out that I do not know and/or that I am welcoming criticism or insights from other points of view.
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In such cases it is paramount that you contact the hardware vendor and insist that they provide an updated driver to ensure that it works in your environment. One thing that does worry me is that some will have an OEM driver. What is to prevent a driver rolled out through the Microsoft Update service from forcing an install of an ineffective driver when you already have one from the OEM's site with a different version number?
Yup. I know they have one online. I used to subscribe to OED's online site. I now have asked my "local" library (it is actually a 75 minute drive away) and can just access it for free so I no longer pay for it directly. Your local library likely has a subscription (I think that is what they call it) and you can enter the numbers in the box and be done with it. It worked for me, at least. I find them handy when I am looking up more than just a definition.
It would be nice if they would fix the code, support UTF-8, and *maybe* find a way for us to edit it on our own for our own consumption. I can imagine that doing so would not be too difficult as a user could load their own per-user code automatically including our own CSS. I seem to recall having seen a few sites that allow this though I can not think of any off the top of my head.
Ebay is addictive. *sighs* Ask me how I know... No, don't. I went through an addictive type of spell where I pretty much won an auction every day of the week. I got lots of cool stuff at great prices. I needed almost none of it. I bought things just because the "price was right." I have an inbound POTS switch from a defunct ISP.
The person selling it said something along the lines of, "I have no idea what this is but it has pretty blinking blue lights." It cost them more to ship it to me than I paid. I knew what it was and, in my head I had a use for it. (I was going to allow folks to dial in and then use my broadband on a dedicated second line.)
I was recently going through some of my "stuff." I came across it and recalled the story. It made me chuckle a little and I kept it because I was going through the clean out process to donate stuff to a local elementary school and I figured I would not foist junk on them.
Anyhow, that device was pretty much the straw that broke the proverbial camel's back. It is strange and keeps showing up in real life or in a bizarre dream. I consider it my personal Twilight Zone episode or Edgar Allan Poe poem. When I do come across it again I tend to power it up and make sure the lights still blink. I suspect that if I give or throw it away then bad things will happen to me. The only way I can safely rid myself of the device is to auction it off via Ebay.
Businesses would be better served using a version other than the home version. This time around, the home version really does mean that. I liken it to a starter or minimal edition. As such it should be treated accordingly. In your proposed scenario they would be able to defer the updates and, in the meantime, the company can provide better drivers. Obviously there was no pressing reason before the new updates or you would have already had issues in your scenario and a botched update would make not one bit of difference to in said scenario. So they could keep the drivers they had until the updated drivers were fixed. There is such a thing as internal patch testing and it is an important step before rolling code out into production.
My understanding is, and I spend some time in the seedy underbelly of the 'net hanging out with and learning from them, that Windows 10 will not be easy to crack. What is likely to happen is that they will need to patch in a different address for authentication servers. The consensus seems to be that this is the only *likely* way to accomplish this. That is all well and good and will work for a time. (Un)fortunately, Microsoft is pretty smart and have better tools. (Also it is trivial to see where the new authentication server exists on the 'net.) They will get any such server disabled quickly. So, while you will have an authenticated system it will not last long if you want to keep it up to date and authentication is done at random times as well as during updates or qualifying for Genuine Advantage software. You could probably keep it going for quite a while without updating but that would just be silly.
One of the more interesting proposals was to, in effect, insert a TOR client or P2P client and do the authentication over that. This is potentially a good idea and could even be a secondary method for update sources instead of using Windows' servers for the part. Obviously this would require one trusting the source which seems unlikely. This could also be a handy route for installing malware or compromising systems. A system designed/compromised in this manner would be more difficult to get shut down. It would also be a lot of work to incorporate but not impossible. We will have to see what happens.
As an MSDN subscriber I am not worried, personally, but I am interested in the results and will keep following along to see what happens. It would be an interesting hack if they can pull it off. As destructive as it is I am sort of rooting for them. It is not that I want to see them succeed so much as it is that I want to see them putting the effort into it and see how far along they get. It would be more beneficial if they worked on more productive projects but pirating Windows seems to be a tradition. I strongly suspect that the folks who work on such can easily afford to get Windows on their own and that this sort of thing is more a hobby than anything else but I could be projecting.
They have mercury in them. That would be unsafe!
They did do that. They call it "Home Edition." The phraseology may be confusing but it is essentially what you are requesting.
I like to play a bunch so I have owned an MSDN subscription for many years now. I buy the top-most subscription because I want access to all of it. I tend to pick and choose across the spectrum. This is, obviously, not a solution for everyone but it works for me. AFAIK (and this is actually trickier than one might expect) I only have two Windows-based PCs in the house. I still keep my MSDN subscription though. (I do have bare metal restore options that let me put a Windows OS back on the PCs pretty quickly should I ever have a need to do so.)
This is a long story, I will try to keep it short.
I gave away a bunch of modern (but older and not in use) hardware to the CompSci department at a local elementary school. I even transfered all licenses to them (which meant I had to do some work because most of the boxes had an MSDN install on them). I shoved all of my keyboards out the door and my mice and all of those things. Well, pretty much all.
Then, on a lark (I was not even drunk) I went on a rampage. I installed every single flavor of the top twenty listed at DistroWatch. I did this all in VMware first. Anything that worked got stuffed onto at least one computer around the house. I am a geek - I have a lot of computers including a whole lab and server room in my basement.
So, happy as a clam I meandered from room to room and computer to computer to configure and play. I happily got VNC working on pretty much all of them (I have not found a BSD that makes me happy and CentOS is really bloated. Ubuntu is not cool. I need to try some other desktop environments in Ubuntu. I love Mint with Cinnamon.)
So, happy as a clam... I finally discover, to my dismay, that I have but one Windows system left. Not to fear... I root around and find a second one that missed my manic upgrade. Now I have a Windows desktop. The trouble is, my desktop is Vista... Now, Vista is awesome after SP1 and even better after SP2. It is on great hardware and it runs fine.
So, keyboard time... Umm... I gave those away! Damn it. Well, I have others...
Now I could swap them out but, keep in mind, I am inherently lazy. I wish this were not true. I worked hard so I could be lazy. I would drive to the kitchen if I could. Oddly I am not fat but I digress.
So I root around and find a keyboard. It is a COMPAQ branded critter. It is older than I expected, I suppose. It must be as I can find not one driver for it. In fact, it doe not appear to need a driver. Yet, every time I have since started this system it happily asks me for a driver. By happy I mean it insists on one. If I tell it to go find one, tell it where one is, or anything it spits at me and calls me names.
However, if I let it do its thing UNTIL it spits at me of its own volition and just close the damned thing then it not only works just fine but it also has the added functionality of all the other keys. Every generic keyboard driver, and I have tried more than a few, is spit out as being not made for the device and no - no I can not tell it to use it and like it.
Now I could, and likely will, swap it out with another that does work. I have yet to get around to doing so and figure that it may be a bunch of effort finding one that Just Works®. I could also buy a new one but, as I mentioned, I just got rid of a bunch of stuff just to be rid of it. I accumulate way too much stuff and the larger the house is the more I will accumulate. I have storage spaces scattered to the four winds and own more superfluous junk than any human should. The only thing stopping me from being a hoarder is the fact that I hire someone to clean my house and I hate clutter for very long so I keep things organized, otherwise I'd be some embarrassed gent on the television in one of those night time reality shows.
My point is that the Windows driver process is broken. I used to be able to tell my computer to use the driver I specified even if it did not match what it was expecting. Now? It just so happens that the driver it bitches about not having (and checking drivermgmt.msc is not listed) is not needed because the damned thing works just fine without it. Why can I not save it in that state? Even the function buttons work - such as volume up and down. All while it claims to not have a driver and only after letting it do its thing and then quitting in the middle of it when it says it can not find the online driver and wants me to specify a volume to look for it. The process is broken and broken at a number of places.
I say this as a huge fan of Microsoft. I honestly feel that they have driven inn
Assuming that neither is made of pork...
I thought the same thing. Get out of my head! Literally - word for word and in that same order. I think I may have included "it is" in my thinking but it parses exactly the same and is not trivial for me to verify. How very strange.
I mined 48 of them when they first started coming out with the software to do it. It was easy then. I donated them to EFF some time back. They were worth a goodly sum by then. Hopefully they capitalized on it right away because the price went down not long after. I did not want to additional taxation, hassle, or association.
This... But I really do not care about /. karma (somehow I have excellent karma though I have been on-topic twice and only a few times not written a novella). Worse? I do not even moderate. I used to never moderate down but now I do not moderate up either. I just let the points sit idle.
It is to get one made up but I no longer own even a single vehicle that I would allow a bumper sticker on. I have a barn and a garage full of vehicles but I do not hate them enough to put bumper stickers on them. There is something to be said about the days when you owned cheap cars and did not care about them.
That is how it should be. I have access in my state to the laws. No case law or anything but I do have the laws. I can just go to the law library if I want to access the digital case law and annotations.
I honestly have no idea what they use. The one time I was in court and saw a judge use a dictionary it was the OED but I have also heard many references to the OED. OED has American English in it. I think they have an American English version even.
Nice, thanks. I am going to watch it again.
"PR guy" is, literally, Public Relations or Press Release guy. It is hardly surprising that the news publishes what they get from a press release. Obviously I wish there were more investigative reporting but there was no glorious past where there was a perfect journalism. Yellow journalism has always been the trend, so much so that we have a special name for it. In fact, I dare say we have more access to alternative journalism than we have ever had before. Because we seem inclined to live in an echo chamber and consume our journalism media from a source that confirms our biases we seem to think that everyone does the same and that nothing else is available. Reality is that such is usually available on any given topic and it is just a click away with a search engine and a browser. The people without said search engine and browser combination are not typically on Slashdot.
I am kind of proud that I throw my vote away on third parties almost exclusively. I have voted for the winning candidate (of any federal election) a total of twice in 40 years and have only voted for a wining candidate a handful of times at the state level. It does not make me feel like a 'loser.' In fact, I feel more civic-minded because of this. I vote for the person I feel will best represent my interests. That person just never gets elected and the person who is more aligned with my political views is usually a third party candidate.
No! Keep them idle with doing busy shit. The last thing you want is them to be doing something "constructive."
No, that is not a joke.
And now the US babysits you so that you stop bombing yourselves into rubble every couple of generations and then whining until someone comes to clean up your mess.
Nobody is forced to directly pay for it unless they watch it. Perhaps you do not understand the system... You could, theoretically, claim that taxes pay for the courts to enforce this but you could also easily claim the taxes pay for the roads for them to get to work. In other words, stupid is bad - do not be stupid.
I probably should have said a "generic you." Most of the time, it seems, bothering to explain is pointless. I, personally, love to learn new things and often go so far as to point out that I do not know and/or that I am welcoming criticism or insights from other points of view.
If what you have to say does not fit on a bumper sticker than it doesn't count.
Maybe that should be on a bumper sticker?