Which laws are those? The only ones I know are state-specific and concern milk and growth hormones or antibacterial treatments. I can not find anything that suggests what you are saying with a quick Google search.
The overhead and bureaucracy combined with the complexity will likely impact the expense of their food as the companies work to meet the mashed up regulations. This is something well within the rights of the government. Interstate commerce is regulated for a variety of reasons. Stupidity like this is one of those reasons.
These companies aggressively sue their neighbors for stealing their IP when the wind spreads pollen from their plants. Also, I am fucking retarded.
Wikipedia says you're full of shit. There are a number of resources for information about this. Monsanto (How did you come up with "these guys" (plural) anyhow?) has their faults and their issues but their legal practices are not anything like the misconceptions out there. Your propagation of those myths only makes your arguments dishonest to anyone willing to search for the truth. If we are going to bash Monsanto and have any hope of being heard then, frankly, it would be best if you managed to keep your mouth closed while the adults talk.
Find just two companies (you said plural) who have aggressively sued "their neighbors" (companies have neighbors?) at all. You can not. I do not know who you shill for or if you are just a liar. Neither is acceptable for those of us who want oversight and testing. Your stupidity does nothing to help, you are of little value and you are dismissed. Go fight another cause, we do not want you here.
There are many others online for the price of a simple search and a few seconds of your time. Trust me, if Monsanto was guilty of this practice the information would be splattered all over the wiki page. Let's keep the arguments based on facts so that we hold the moral high ground when it comes time to be judged or when it comes time to attracting people to our side.
1. Modern wheat has way too much gliadin compared to regular wheat.
Define "way too much" and then explain why this is bad or pertinent. Also, as for your other concerns, have you considered that diagnostics, awareness, and depth of media coverage may have impacted the amount of information you have available?
This is actually one of the very rare times when the federal government is using their ability to regulate interstate commerce properly. I am not saying that I agree with their choice, I am saying that this is well within their charter and is being used effectively and properly.
Now, I will also opine that I agree with their choice and some would call me a health nut in regards to my eating habits. I am not though. I just do not eat a lot of overly sweet things or a lot of pre-processed foodstuffs. I hunt, fish, and grow a good portion of what I eat but I am not even remotely a health nut. You probably won't find me with a large candy bar but you might find me with hard candy or maybe a small candy bar like a peanut butter cup every now and again.
I am not sure why but some folks seem to think that the label should include this information because it has not been proven safe. That seems pretty silly. If it was unsafe it should not be in your food and would need no label. There are myriad things that have not been proven 100% safe - and we eat them daily. I dare say that, with high enough consumption rates, everything in our diet is unsafe. They want a label... Yeah, the label will protect them...
I believe that is best termed as an 'appeal to authority' as well as an 'ad hominem' pair of fallacies. Now logical fallacies do not always negate the value of a rebuttal. However, in this case, it appears that they do and do so quite handily. Regardless of your professed practices you have offered nothing of quality.
If you are what you claim to be then information and education would be welcomed, I expect.
Blithering about your supposed expertise accomplishes nothing and makes me inclined to believe you might be fabricating your credentials or exaggerating them because you do something like run the homogenization machine in a milk plant and add in the vitamin D concentrate.
When a bird takes a twig from a tree and makes a nest is that unnatural? We are humans, we are natural. What we create is natural - even if it was not originally found in nature. It is made from components that were found in nature. Much like the twig that was then used to form a portion of a nest.
I agree, entirely, that we need to be observant and cautious about such things but I disagree with your statement that it is unnatural. Even a car is natural - we made it, we are a part of nature, and it is formed from things found in nature. Even a rocket is natural, really. When we slaughter a species and make it extinct it too is natural. When we rape, murder, pillage and burn that is natural too (though doing those out of order is simply objectionable). Strangely, when we make laws against doing things like that then we are bordering on being unnatural as we are attempting to control natural behaviors.
So, yeah, I agree with your conclusion but not your methodology. To my mind it is perfectly natural to create genetically modified organisms. It is not necessarily wise to do so but doing so is perfectly natural. I do think it is important to err on the side of caution. Just a few days ago we found a couple of new letters to add to the DNA pool which tells me that we do not know nearly as much as we profess to know.
Maybe you and he have different views of what makes quality? He does not want you to have to pay for streaming his music, he feels the sound is inferior. This is actually subjective and not objective. You can say the higher bitrate has a higher quality but you can not say that the sound is better because of that - that is a matter of taste. His taste, and the taste of his fans, are different it seems. As a fan I am not actually one that appreciates all of his music for example. To him a lossy and distorted mix may sound better.
Additionally, he does not want you to pay for streaming his music - as I mentioned. He encourages you to make a copy and states that it is free. So, go pirate it if you want. There are many torrents available. Here is a link to the magnet file for his discography from 1968 until 2010:
I think there are two newer albums than that? I am not entirely sure but I think so. However, that will give you a good start and plenty of his music in high quality. There are alternatives available:
Yet another thing we agree on. He is an artist of the highest quality for his genre(s). He is a legend and his music is legendary. As he is actively encouraging people to make a copy of his music (to pirate it) he is most likely not doing this for the money.
Anyhow, I had not seen you around for a while. It is good to see you are still kicking. I forgot your email address - I have a suggestion for your application and would prefer the conversation to be private.
Assuming the source is the same and using some downloaded files expressly for this purpose I found that I could not tell the difference after 192k MP3s though I thought I could tell a difference between MP3 and FLAC at the same bitrates though that may have been my biases as I had listened to them all before I had a friend play them while I sat where I could not see the monitor. I also noticed quite a difference in the opposite direction - dropping below the 192k MP3 bitrate level was easy for me to tell. Anything under 98k was unacceptable to my earballs though I would still listen to it in a pinch if there were no other sources. I have had to do so in the past when I was pirating music as larger was not always available and the time to download was often quite long.
Anyhow, Neil Young (if you read his post about this) encourages you to copy his music, in other words to download a torrent of your choosing, and states that it is free and your choice. That leads me to believe that this is not about the money but about his principles. We can disagree with his principles but it seems harsh to judge him poorly for having the gumption to stick with those principles. I also surmise that, to him, quality has a different meaning than it has to most of us. His music has always been harsh, rough, grungy, bitter, dirty, distorted, and many other things. Polished and dynamic are not words I would use to describe his music to someone who is not a fan.
But you took the time to comment and read the article. Dice Holdings wins again. Also, you thought you had a valid opinion or that your not caring was somehow important? That is like going to the Windows 10 RTM link and saying, "I do not use Windows, I use FreeBSD. I don't care." In other words, it is moronic. Also, you should use LinuxMint - it is 'Linux for Retards' which is why I like it so much.
Have you considered that he has a different view of the word quality than you have? It is subjective and not a number. To him quality is likely gritty, distorted, grunge-filled, and far from the peaks you might envision as being quality. I am, of course, just guessing about his views as I do not know them but I have followed him for a very very long time. He probably listens to music with old and worn speakers and a crusty old tubed amplifier from before you were born. To him that is quality.
That is curious. When did they get vinyl up that high? I thought the vinyl capped at something like 16k? Do these new vinyl records have special needles of a new design or have they just tweaked the hell out of the needle and the pressing method?
I do not actually own a record player (that I know of) any more. I do have a bunch of albums in my basement, stacks of them, so I may have a record player somewhere in storage as well. I am not an audiophile but I do play and I do listen. I even bought a sound card that had tubes (it was a waste of money). I have a reconditioned (and a new-retro) tubed amp and a couple of guitar amps that are tubed but I digress.
If the needles are different in the new records, which I do not know anything about, can I still play older vinyl records on them? They are typically shaped like a trident of sorts, at least they were traditionally. I have no idea where to even start looking to educate myself on this subject. So, rather than answer my questions, you can offer a website that you're familiar with if you have the gumption to do so. Obviously I have no problem admitting I lack certain expertise and I do not comment on such subjects as my comments would be of little value.
No, he is saying that he will not provide it for streaming services and that you can download it, for free, if you want and do whatever you want because he does not think you should have to pay for streaming his music because he feels the quality is inferior. He is quite clear about this and what you are claiming he said is not even remotely implied by what he said. In other words - streaming sucks balls (according to him) in quality so he is not making it available to stream. Instead, he encourages you to go download his music with, "make a copy, it's free." That you see this as a bad thing is, well, telling... You can consume it any way you want (for the low price of nothing) but he is not going to let them stream it so that you don't have to pay for that quality.
He also openly encouraged people to just copy his music, stating it is free. I dare say that he probably is not in this for the money. He is a principled man but, at the same time, he is a bit crazy. His definition of quality does not likely mean the same thing as you, we, me, are assuming. Gritty, grungy, heart-felt, powerful, emotional, dirty, vibe, vibration, noise, harmonics, etc... Those are words I think would describe his music. Not lossyless... Not pure... Not polished... But, simply, Neil's music. If people do not know this then they are not fans and that is okay. They may like a few songs, they may be partial to him. They are not the dedicated fans and those are the people he caters to and I sincerely doubt that it is about the money at this point. He has had enough songs top the charts that he will never worry about money again even with the myriad expenses he has with his disabled son.
I can confirm that I have AM on my 2013 740Li but I am not at all sure how to engage it. I could probably figure it out. I believe it is in the 2015 model as well but mine is still being built and is not a 740 but a 640Li and I honestly have never asked about it and I doubt I will ever use it. The last time I used AM was on the highway where a sign instructed me to tune to 1640 for highway information. As I was a bit high at the time I figured I should do what General Principle had instructed and I dutifully tuned to that station. I did not crash while doing so but it was a two button combination (that I did not know) to tune from AM to FM. Supposedly I can do this from the steering wheel but I will be damned if I have any idea how to actually do that. The Beemer's have HUDs which tell me what I am doing when mashing the buttons so theoretically I could get AM radio with enough random button selections. The RV does not do that. In a way that is a good thing - one must pay a bit more attention when they are piloting a concrete block down the road.
We also have to look at what he considers quality. The gritty sound (usually, he is not normally very polished) is his thing. He likes the sound. I can sort of see where he might be going though it conflicts with his device - some PONO thing. His idea of quality does not match what other people think. He may well think a compressed MP3 is better than lossyless FLAC.
Further up in the thread I posited that one could just download the torrent files and get his music, he would not be likely to mind. Your post, assuming it is accurate, seems to indicate that I was spot on. This is not about the money. It is about how he hears things. That is how Neil has always been. He does make music for his fans but his fans cross so many boundaries that they are not in one genre. So, here, he is going by how he feels and hears I am guessing. I have seen him in shows since before you kids were born and am a pretty big fan with all of his music. I also think he is insane but...
I somehow doubt that is his motive. Really. He has scads of money - I have given him a lot. Well, not personally... Anyhow, he really is an idealist of sorts. Also, I think he is insane. That is not a bad thing I suppose. But, money is probably not his goal.
We can't even pin him down to a genre. Hell, look at all of his work helping out Pearl Jam or his country phase or, worse, his umm... I am sick of EMF phase. Might have been BMI. I am too lazy to look. Wait - no Geffin Records. I am also too lazy to delete.
Let's add Needle and the Damage Done to that list and Heart of Gold. American Legend is on my mind as well. So, yeah, good on ya Mr. Young. You are always a legend to me.
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Tuna hasn't tasted the same since they took the dolphin out of it. *sniffles*
Which laws are those? The only ones I know are state-specific and concern milk and growth hormones or antibacterial treatments. I can not find anything that suggests what you are saying with a quick Google search.
The overhead and bureaucracy combined with the complexity will likely impact the expense of their food as the companies work to meet the mashed up regulations. This is something well within the rights of the government. Interstate commerce is regulated for a variety of reasons. Stupidity like this is one of those reasons.
These companies aggressively sue their neighbors for stealing their IP when the wind spreads pollen from their plants. Also, I am fucking retarded.
Wikipedia says you're full of shit. There are a number of resources for information about this. Monsanto (How did you come up with "these guys" (plural) anyhow?) has their faults and their issues but their legal practices are not anything like the misconceptions out there. Your propagation of those myths only makes your arguments dishonest to anyone willing to search for the truth. If we are going to bash Monsanto and have any hope of being heard then, frankly, it would be best if you managed to keep your mouth closed while the adults talk.
Find just two companies (you said plural) who have aggressively sued "their neighbors" (companies have neighbors?) at all. You can not. I do not know who you shill for or if you are just a liar. Neither is acceptable for those of us who want oversight and testing. Your stupidity does nothing to help, you are of little value and you are dismissed. Go fight another cause, we do not want you here.
For those reading and a victim of this misinformation, here is a citation:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/...
There are many others online for the price of a simple search and a few seconds of your time. Trust me, if Monsanto was guilty of this practice the information would be splattered all over the wiki page. Let's keep the arguments based on facts so that we hold the moral high ground when it comes time to be judged or when it comes time to attracting people to our side.
1. Modern wheat has way too much gliadin compared to regular wheat.
Define "way too much" and then explain why this is bad or pertinent. Also, as for your other concerns, have you considered that diagnostics, awareness, and depth of media coverage may have impacted the amount of information you have available?
This is actually one of the very rare times when the federal government is using their ability to regulate interstate commerce properly. I am not saying that I agree with their choice, I am saying that this is well within their charter and is being used effectively and properly.
Now, I will also opine that I agree with their choice and some would call me a health nut in regards to my eating habits. I am not though. I just do not eat a lot of overly sweet things or a lot of pre-processed foodstuffs. I hunt, fish, and grow a good portion of what I eat but I am not even remotely a health nut. You probably won't find me with a large candy bar but you might find me with hard candy or maybe a small candy bar like a peanut butter cup every now and again.
I am not sure why but some folks seem to think that the label should include this information because it has not been proven safe. That seems pretty silly. If it was unsafe it should not be in your food and would need no label. There are myriad things that have not been proven 100% safe - and we eat them daily. I dare say that, with high enough consumption rates, everything in our diet is unsafe. They want a label... Yeah, the label will protect them...
I believe that is best termed as an 'appeal to authority' as well as an 'ad hominem' pair of fallacies. Now logical fallacies do not always negate the value of a rebuttal. However, in this case, it appears that they do and do so quite handily. Regardless of your professed practices you have offered nothing of quality.
If you are what you claim to be then information and education would be welcomed, I expect.
Blithering about your supposed expertise accomplishes nothing and makes me inclined to believe you might be fabricating your credentials or exaggerating them because you do something like run the homogenization machine in a milk plant and add in the vitamin D concentrate.
When a bird takes a twig from a tree and makes a nest is that unnatural? We are humans, we are natural. What we create is natural - even if it was not originally found in nature. It is made from components that were found in nature. Much like the twig that was then used to form a portion of a nest.
I agree, entirely, that we need to be observant and cautious about such things but I disagree with your statement that it is unnatural. Even a car is natural - we made it, we are a part of nature, and it is formed from things found in nature. Even a rocket is natural, really. When we slaughter a species and make it extinct it too is natural. When we rape, murder, pillage and burn that is natural too (though doing those out of order is simply objectionable). Strangely, when we make laws against doing things like that then we are bordering on being unnatural as we are attempting to control natural behaviors.
So, yeah, I agree with your conclusion but not your methodology. To my mind it is perfectly natural to create genetically modified organisms. It is not necessarily wise to do so but doing so is perfectly natural. I do think it is important to err on the side of caution. Just a few days ago we found a couple of new letters to add to the DNA pool which tells me that we do not know nearly as much as we profess to know.
Maybe you and he have different views of what makes quality? He does not want you to have to pay for streaming his music, he feels the sound is inferior. This is actually subjective and not objective. You can say the higher bitrate has a higher quality but you can not say that the sound is better because of that - that is a matter of taste. His taste, and the taste of his fans, are different it seems. As a fan I am not actually one that appreciates all of his music for example. To him a lossy and distorted mix may sound better.
Additionally, he does not want you to pay for streaming his music - as I mentioned. He encourages you to make a copy and states that it is free. So, go pirate it if you want. There are many torrents available. Here is a link to the magnet file for his discography from 1968 until 2010:
magnet:?xt=urn:btih:53f0f9f3105021246afdb016561768c4442ba91e&dn=Neil+Young+-+Studio+Discography+1968+-+2010+%5BFLAC%5D+-+Kitlope&tr=udp%3A%2F%2Ftracker.openbittorrent.com%3A80&tr=udp%3A%2F%2Fopen.demonii.com%3A1337&tr=udp%3A%2F%2Ftracker.coppersurfer.tk%3A6969&tr=udp%3A%2F%2Fexodus.desync.com%3A6969
I think there are two newer albums than that? I am not entirely sure but I think so. However, that will give you a good start and plenty of his music in high quality. There are alternatives available:
https://thepiratebay.gd/search...
I am currently seeding the first of the two and will leave it on for the duration. Grab a copy if you want.
Yet another thing we agree on. He is an artist of the highest quality for his genre(s). He is a legend and his music is legendary. As he is actively encouraging people to make a copy of his music (to pirate it) he is most likely not doing this for the money.
Anyhow, I had not seen you around for a while. It is good to see you are still kicking. I forgot your email address - I have a suggestion for your application and would prefer the conversation to be private.
Assuming the source is the same and using some downloaded files expressly for this purpose I found that I could not tell the difference after 192k MP3s though I thought I could tell a difference between MP3 and FLAC at the same bitrates though that may have been my biases as I had listened to them all before I had a friend play them while I sat where I could not see the monitor. I also noticed quite a difference in the opposite direction - dropping below the 192k MP3 bitrate level was easy for me to tell. Anything under 98k was unacceptable to my earballs though I would still listen to it in a pinch if there were no other sources. I have had to do so in the past when I was pirating music as larger was not always available and the time to download was often quite long.
Anyhow, Neil Young (if you read his post about this) encourages you to copy his music, in other words to download a torrent of your choosing, and states that it is free and your choice. That leads me to believe that this is not about the money but about his principles. We can disagree with his principles but it seems harsh to judge him poorly for having the gumption to stick with those principles. I also surmise that, to him, quality has a different meaning than it has to most of us. His music has always been harsh, rough, grungy, bitter, dirty, distorted, and many other things. Polished and dynamic are not words I would use to describe his music to someone who is not a fan.
But you took the time to comment and read the article. Dice Holdings wins again. Also, you thought you had a valid opinion or that your not caring was somehow important? That is like going to the Windows 10 RTM link and saying, "I do not use Windows, I use FreeBSD. I don't care." In other words, it is moronic. Also, you should use LinuxMint - it is 'Linux for Retards' which is why I like it so much.
Have you considered that he has a different view of the word quality than you have? It is subjective and not a number. To him quality is likely gritty, distorted, grunge-filled, and far from the peaks you might envision as being quality. I am, of course, just guessing about his views as I do not know them but I have followed him for a very very long time. He probably listens to music with old and worn speakers and a crusty old tubed amplifier from before you were born. To him that is quality.
That is curious. When did they get vinyl up that high? I thought the vinyl capped at something like 16k? Do these new vinyl records have special needles of a new design or have they just tweaked the hell out of the needle and the pressing method?
I do not actually own a record player (that I know of) any more. I do have a bunch of albums in my basement, stacks of them, so I may have a record player somewhere in storage as well. I am not an audiophile but I do play and I do listen. I even bought a sound card that had tubes (it was a waste of money). I have a reconditioned (and a new-retro) tubed amp and a couple of guitar amps that are tubed but I digress.
If the needles are different in the new records, which I do not know anything about, can I still play older vinyl records on them? They are typically shaped like a trident of sorts, at least they were traditionally. I have no idea where to even start looking to educate myself on this subject. So, rather than answer my questions, you can offer a website that you're familiar with if you have the gumption to do so. Obviously I have no problem admitting I lack certain expertise and I do not comment on such subjects as my comments would be of little value.
No, he is saying that he will not provide it for streaming services and that you can download it, for free, if you want and do whatever you want because he does not think you should have to pay for streaming his music because he feels the quality is inferior. He is quite clear about this and what you are claiming he said is not even remotely implied by what he said. In other words - streaming sucks balls (according to him) in quality so he is not making it available to stream. Instead, he encourages you to go download his music with, "make a copy, it's free." That you see this as a bad thing is, well, telling... You can consume it any way you want (for the low price of nothing) but he is not going to let them stream it so that you don't have to pay for that quality.
He also openly encouraged people to just copy his music, stating it is free. I dare say that he probably is not in this for the money. He is a principled man but, at the same time, he is a bit crazy. His definition of quality does not likely mean the same thing as you, we, me, are assuming. Gritty, grungy, heart-felt, powerful, emotional, dirty, vibe, vibration, noise, harmonics, etc... Those are words I think would describe his music. Not lossyless... Not pure... Not polished... But, simply, Neil's music. If people do not know this then they are not fans and that is okay. They may like a few songs, they may be partial to him. They are not the dedicated fans and those are the people he caters to and I sincerely doubt that it is about the money at this point. He has had enough songs top the charts that he will never worry about money again even with the myriad expenses he has with his disabled son.
I can confirm that I have AM on my 2013 740Li but I am not at all sure how to engage it. I could probably figure it out. I believe it is in the 2015 model as well but mine is still being built and is not a 740 but a 640Li and I honestly have never asked about it and I doubt I will ever use it. The last time I used AM was on the highway where a sign instructed me to tune to 1640 for highway information. As I was a bit high at the time I figured I should do what General Principle had instructed and I dutifully tuned to that station. I did not crash while doing so but it was a two button combination (that I did not know) to tune from AM to FM. Supposedly I can do this from the steering wheel but I will be damned if I have any idea how to actually do that. The Beemer's have HUDs which tell me what I am doing when mashing the buttons so theoretically I could get AM radio with enough random button selections. The RV does not do that. In a way that is a good thing - one must pay a bit more attention when they are piloting a concrete block down the road.
We also have to look at what he considers quality. The gritty sound (usually, he is not normally very polished) is his thing. He likes the sound. I can sort of see where he might be going though it conflicts with his device - some PONO thing. His idea of quality does not match what other people think. He may well think a compressed MP3 is better than lossyless FLAC.
Further up in the thread I posited that one could just download the torrent files and get his music, he would not be likely to mind. Your post, assuming it is accurate, seems to indicate that I was spot on. This is not about the money. It is about how he hears things. That is how Neil has always been. He does make music for his fans but his fans cross so many boundaries that they are not in one genre. So, here, he is going by how he feels and hears I am guessing. I have seen him in shows since before you kids were born and am a pretty big fan with all of his music. I also think he is insane but...
Just grab a copy off a torrent site. He probably will not even mind but I do not dare speak for him. Really - go ahead, he won't give a shit.
I somehow doubt that is his motive. Really. He has scads of money - I have given him a lot. Well, not personally... Anyhow, he really is an idealist of sorts. Also, I think he is insane. That is not a bad thing I suppose. But, money is probably not his goal.
Hmm... I think I hear some bull whips cracking... How long? How long?
I am partial to Neil because I can play some of his music. It is not hard but it is passionate.
We can't even pin him down to a genre. Hell, look at all of his work helping out Pearl Jam or his country phase or, worse, his umm... I am sick of EMF phase. Might have been BMI. I am too lazy to look. Wait - no Geffin Records. I am also too lazy to delete.
Let's add Needle and the Damage Done to that list and Heart of Gold. American Legend is on my mind as well. So, yeah, good on ya Mr. Young. You are always a legend to me.