All the Intercontinental carriers should do nicely out of this. All they need to do is cache it overseas and resell their own bandwidth as overseas transmission. If noone here has the right to cache anything, it seems like a real nice way of plumping up the bandwidth usage on the major national and international carrier, which.. you'll never guess! Is owned by the government and being plumped for sale.
Interesting thoughts. But it's a basic anarchy that will never happen. Your model seems to require everyone running their own mail server, for one. Can you see people doing that?
Your model also seems to follow some ideas which IPv6 might. It would have to, because people all being handed their own address blocks is the only way you can sidestep content providers and ISPs. What do you think your plan would do to the routing tables without Ip6? It doesn't make your idea any less valid, we'd need a strictly heirarchical system. That requires some very decent top-down organisation of the address space. Geographic regulation would have to come into play. Not a big deal perhaps.
Bandwidth always costs money. Companies want to get you using their content so that you may never know the rest of the Internet exists. The Walled Garden approach is going to be a big part of the IP networks of the future, believe me. I'm not talking your Mom & Pop ISP here, I'm talking about large fibre networks with cable television services running. This is dedicated content, and has nothing to do with your anarchy model.
Where I am the telcos already run the show. They are the tier one and two providers. They've bought or started the largest ISPs already, and there's no way the independents could ever compete on cost.
Anyway, just some thoughts. The point being that it seems a nice comment with very little thought behind what an 'ISP' is these days. Anyone with an upstream connection is an ISP. not just some guys with modem banks.
The rate that bandwidth is expanding at right now is phenomenal. The case in this part of the world is such that there are people walking around with fibre licenses with no idea what to do with them. The Southern Cross pipe opened up and that's got a combined size of 80Gig right now, I think 160Gig in a year. At least, that's the old stats.
P2P isn't anything compared to that stuff. Bring on the holographic conferencing!
If anyone knows about the Cascade that's been bothering alot of physicists for many years, we've all got reason to worry.
Think of it: One glove an astronaut leaves behind hits a satellite, breaking off a piece of antenna. The glove's travelling at 22,000 miles/hour, after all. the antenna hits another one, this time shattering it. That flies in all directions, hitting other satellites which do the same thing. Sono our sky is full of junk, we have no communications from space and no way of getting into space without being pelted by lightspeed junk.
The large Constellation class satellite plans cable companies had recently where they launch 200 each are really hurting our chances of colonising Mars, and this can't be helping.
No, most people listen to the emotive propoganda and say "Gemany deserved to lose because they were evil." In short, 'conventional wisdom' is whatever gets you through your day without having to confront what the tv tells you or what the neighbours are buying. People don't think about the mechanics of a situation, they just pick the easiest line for them to take to dismiss rational, involved thought. Like listening to the guy with the excuse for global warming based on a "climate scare" he heard about when he was a kid, or the Oil company's scientists who say they have "conclusive new evidence" which suggests climate trends may be due to noral solar cycles.
Conventional wisdom says that with a bigger corporation, you should get a more reliable service. This isn't any more true with large ISPs than small, and the huge number of tradeoffs you sell to buy this "service" like tech support, low wait times etc are the things they don't advertise. Conventional wisdom is normally what your favourite news show tells you and what your favourite idiot radio jock is playing. People who use AOL actually ask if you have "AOL" rather than Internet access. They've been sold an idea of a product and they like it that way. Less choice, less thought.
I'd like to hear exactly how it changes it, if anyone has that.
Speculatively, I'd suggest it's likely to be through modifying some surface antigen which makes the sperm "unrecognisable" at the other end. Of course, there would have to be some sort of complementary receptor or other sequence at the other end to catch it.
THere's really no way right now to predict the ways in which a protein will be folded based on the constituent amino acids, making these surface receptors and antigens very hard to synthesise with just the genetic sequence. If these could be generated on the fly, you might indeed find this a secure transmission facilitator.
Doesn't it seem odd that an article supposedly asking for easy to use apps with a transparent OS on ubiquitous hatdware is still requiring specific buttons for specific tasks? What's he done but move the icon to the case?
So why not use a combination of more natural ideas like fingertaps on a ubiquitous tablet or voice recognition?
Saying we should purpoes-build hardware to suit the applications and use less descriptive inputs is like saying cars could be made more modern if they ran on coal.
You'd think it could be well argued that the sysadmins involved would be making the decision as to which OS is used. Maybe focussing on the actual lost revenues is where they should be looking?
So. Have you heard of hudro-electric power? How about wind power or solar power? And people aren't afraid of Chernobyl, they already know what nuclear pollution does to the world without the need for a meltdown.
The NDC is still retarded and slow. NDC, the main Fibre-Laying body in this country, is only recently divorced from Telstra, the government carrier.
While the NDC clearly has the capacity to ramp up their pathetic response to capacity requests, they won't until they're sold. The problem is, everybody that's thought about buying them has found the same thing: they're top-heavy with old government employees and they've all retained their pension plans. They're not changing themselves and the rumours are that it's too much of an old boys club to ever do so.
Meanwhile, the fibre licenses have recently been shelled out to all the power companies, as they already have the right to dig up the streets. They're now scrambling around like headless chickens trying to figure out IP.
While things do look to be about to hot up, the history is bad. ISDN still costs ridiculous amounts now, and isn't any better than multiplexing a couple of modems for most users. Frame was never a widely-pblicised option and ATM is now too expensive to implement. The main carriers don't want to offer cable to businesses, and most people that have played with DSL have shyed away from the thought of placing gear at each Telstra exchange. Much less having to deal with the evil giant.
There's a lot of potential out there, but things are a wee while from being made clear. Certain providers are building brand new networks based on V90, which is missing the point. We're building the dream network of 1998 with only the dim spectre of VoIP sustaining the thought of network viability.
Having worked for one of Australia's largest ISPs for two years, I can safely say they have no clue what they are talking about. All ISPs are treated as telco's and the industry ombudsman actually asks the ISPs what constitutes a breach in the law! I'm not kidding, every time someone makes a serious complaint, they come to us and say "What legally constitutes a "port scan?""
How on earth is a body supposed to regulate an industry when not only are they asking the industry what the law is, but they have zero kowledge of the industry they're regulating?
I agree with the author in that the kinds of content abuses he mentions and the kind of attacks perpetrated on Undernet can never be effectively legislated against unless there is a knowledgeable framework within government.
While I would prefer to keep this out of the hands of individual nations (eg, Muslim fundamentalist governments arresting women for showing their faces on the Internet) I do think such a body needs to exist. The only suitable body would seem to be the UN. Though, when you're not American you tend to see the UN a little differently. Their manipulation of the media in not strictly factual ways is as bad as any government, and seems to be largely dictated by the US's fascist approach to demanding autonomy in any theatre they have an interest in. For instance their main complaint about signing the recent anti war crimes paper was that they might have US troops convicted. Apparently war crimes are for other people, Americans have Patriotism.
Sorry for the fanatic tinge here, but no government will ever be perfect. So a strictly democratic Internationl body is the best we're going to get for policing and tracking of offenders. We've all grown with this medium and it's time to realise there's those out there who would make things much worse not only for us but for everyone. Control it before we're all staring at inhouse "broadband" corporation shit like the television. Legislate that the Internet remains a definite body and corporations can't use the name on whatever they like, and there are rules therein.
I'd have to say GATTACA was pretty damn good. Seen Mission to Mars? Ugh.
It was more about the social ramifications, anyway. It wasn't intended to be a technical dissertation. The themes that came through were very strong, and exactly what we should be afraid of.
Don't think that people in the medical industry are necessarily pro this, either. It took a serious incident in an overseas country before my uncle, who works in diagnostics, would admit that my cousin had serious asthma. Why? He knew that it would already make it difficult to get a job.
Placing this under the medical disabilities frame of reference is disingenuous. While it may help those with outwardly obvious disabilities to be better accepted, it will turn a huge number of people into the genetically disadvantaged-an attitude the physically handicaped need to shed themselves. Abnormality isn't a handicap, it's a fact of life. Not being able to get up the stairs is just waiting for better medical technology. Being predisposed to cancer is no different.
There's only one way to fix this: Socialise health care. Yor employer shouldn't have the final call over life or death for you, so why the hell do so many in the states rely on their employers for their kids' safety?
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Who are you replying to? I'm always astounded by the lack of rationale that goes into some ines of thinking. At no point did the argument even border on social selection. Merely stating that research is expensive and that people need to recoup costs is not racist or bigoted. The "expensive medicine" debate is fair, but hasn't been touchd on here. Coverall arguments are unintelligent and don't help anyone progress.
Medical and biotech gear isn't going to get less expensive, because modst of it is based on open knowledge, like PCR. Can you find a cheap way to build a temperature-controlled centrifuge which is capable of balancing the current volume of genetic material used? Are you aware that that's in the picolitres? This isn't a text file, it's heavy, precise, industrial equipment. That's one of the most ubiquitous pieces of lab gear.
There will in the future be a bunch of patent-based creations, like gene chips. Now, these will be based on patented genes, but don't have to be. It will mean you can take a dro pof blood and within minutes tell if you have any one of jundreds of genes. This is finally the kind of gear which will brig genetics to the world of mass production. Then, we will be talking about too-expensive solutions, but come back then. Right now, it's incredibly expensive and takes highly talented people.
Not everyone wants to be a plumber, and Einstein was no biologist. I'd like to see him paying for most of that gear with a plumber's wage. Let's not forget, he mostly did math. That's a brain-and-paper deal - nowadays a computer one. Things have changed.
While I could see the idea of corporations donating to individuals as an option, I'd like to see more than a few hundred people benefiting from this. So they'd form cooperatives to work on the stuff with government funding, and get jobs like say, teaching, ro make ends meet. Sounds alot like a university, doesn't it?
Yeah, I hate to say it, but the open source movement is nothing compared to this. Sure, Unix may have been variously developed under the auspices of academic control, but we're talking about the real deal here. I'd say 2-5% of the world's desktops run Linux or BSD, and 100% of the world's population incorporates almost identical complements of DNA. The biggest networked Unix distro isn't even open sourced!
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The Fifth Elephant was definitely a very good read. Amazing the way in which he's (paradoxically) making the different species such as the dwarves more distinct and believable yet "human" at the same time. Nice to see a cold troll's silicon brain spark for once as well.
Earlier someone mentioned that the witches books are the least entertaining. I totally disagree: I think Rincewind is the least entertaining character by a longshot. The last witch book, Carpe Jugulum, is full of more thematic brilliance than the earlier Shakespeare parody, and shows a real commitment to his new "mystery" mode of writing as well as some fantastic telling of the life inside the mind. He turns vampires into a self-parody, but in the same instance reduces them to the most fearful thing they can be: the seducer and the evolutionary superior of humanity wrapped in a nice waistcoat. Granny Weatherwax has come a long way.
Yeah Hawks vs Doves, the Prisoner's Dillemma and all that. It's all game theory. ESS's are just formulae for behavioural patterns over generations and iterations of similar events through an organism's life. See below.
Totally true. I don't know about the economists plotting against the geeks, but I'd have to say there's got to be a better trend towards knocking off the lower-scale industry qualificatins like the MCSE. Outsourcing for sysadmins will occur more often and you'll find that deals like those Compaq are doing for supply and support will whittle down the number of inhouse techs etc. Then, the biggest move will be that the damn Internet will get to the point where it's as easy to use as the marketing managers like to say it is. When that happens, me and all of my tech support buddies will be out on our ears. In short, the end will come from the bottom up. It will again reach an equilibrium where you need tertiay qualifications that are relevant and will need to get in at a higher level. And the current generation doing just that will provide a glut for the next two generations, just like in several academic fields.
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All the Intercontinental carriers should do nicely out of this. All they need to do is cache it overseas and resell their own bandwidth as overseas transmission. If noone here has the right to cache anything, it seems like a real nice way of plumping up the bandwidth usage on the major national and international carrier, which.. you'll never guess! Is owned by the government and being plumped for sale.
Nice way to instantly bump up your own profits.
Interesting thoughts. But it's a basic anarchy that will never happen. Your model seems to require everyone running their own mail server, for one. Can you see people doing that? Your model also seems to follow some ideas which IPv6 might. It would have to, because people all being handed their own address blocks is the only way you can sidestep content providers and ISPs. What do you think your plan would do to the routing tables without Ip6? It doesn't make your idea any less valid, we'd need a strictly heirarchical system. That requires some very decent top-down organisation of the address space. Geographic regulation would have to come into play. Not a big deal perhaps.
Bandwidth always costs money. Companies want to get you using their content so that you may never know the rest of the Internet exists. The Walled Garden approach is going to be a big part of the IP networks of the future, believe me. I'm not talking your Mom & Pop ISP here, I'm talking about large fibre networks with cable television services running. This is dedicated content, and has nothing to do with your anarchy model.
Where I am the telcos already run the show. They are the tier one and two providers. They've bought or started the largest ISPs already, and there's no way the independents could ever compete on cost.
Anyway, just some thoughts. The point being that it seems a nice comment with very little thought behind what an 'ISP' is these days. Anyone with an upstream connection is an ISP. not just some guys with modem banks.
Have you heard of a cache?
The rate that bandwidth is expanding at right now is phenomenal. The case in this part of the world is such that there are people walking around with fibre licenses with no idea what to do with them. The Southern Cross pipe opened up and that's got a combined size of 80Gig right now, I think 160Gig in a year. At least, that's the old stats.
P2P isn't anything compared to that stuff. Bring on the holographic conferencing!
If anyone knows about the Cascade that's been bothering alot of physicists for many years, we've all got reason to worry.
Think of it: One glove an astronaut leaves behind hits a satellite, breaking off a piece of antenna. The glove's travelling at 22,000 miles/hour, after all. the antenna hits another one, this time shattering it. That flies in all directions, hitting other satellites which do the same thing. Sono our sky is full of junk, we have no communications from space and no way of getting into space without being pelted by lightspeed junk.
The large Constellation class satellite plans cable companies had recently where they launch 200 each are really hurting our chances of colonising Mars, and this can't be helping.
According to Armageddon, where I learnt everything I know, patents don't apply in space, and nor does copyright.
So they could reverse-engineer Windows and build in DeCSS if they liked. Or Irix, more probably.
Crazy kids.
No, most people listen to the emotive propoganda and say "Gemany deserved to lose because they were evil." In short, 'conventional wisdom' is whatever gets you through your day without having to confront what the tv tells you or what the neighbours are buying. People don't think about the mechanics of a situation, they just pick the easiest line for them to take to dismiss rational, involved thought. Like listening to the guy with the excuse for global warming based on a "climate scare" he heard about when he was a kid, or the Oil company's scientists who say they have "conclusive new evidence" which suggests climate trends may be due to noral solar cycles.
Conventional wisdom says that with a bigger corporation, you should get a more reliable service. This isn't any more true with large ISPs than small, and the huge number of tradeoffs you sell to buy this "service" like tech support, low wait times etc are the things they don't advertise. Conventional wisdom is normally what your favourite news show tells you and what your favourite idiot radio jock is playing. People who use AOL actually ask if you have "AOL" rather than Internet access. They've been sold an idea of a product and they like it that way. Less choice, less thought.
I'd like to hear exactly how it changes it, if anyone has that.
Speculatively, I'd suggest it's likely to be through modifying some surface antigen which makes the sperm "unrecognisable" at the other end. Of course, there would have to be some sort of complementary receptor or other sequence at the other end to catch it.
THere's really no way right now to predict the ways in which a protein will be folded based on the constituent amino acids, making these surface receptors and antigens very hard to synthesise with just the genetic sequence. If these could be generated on the fly, you might indeed find this a secure transmission facilitator.
Doesn't it seem odd that an article supposedly asking for easy to use apps with a transparent OS on ubiquitous hatdware is still requiring specific buttons for specific tasks? What's he done but move the icon to the case?
So why not use a combination of more natural ideas like fingertaps on a ubiquitous tablet or voice recognition?
Saying we should purpoes-build hardware to suit the applications and use less descriptive inputs is like saying cars could be made more modern if they ran on coal.
You'd think it could be well argued that the sysadmins involved would be making the decision as to which OS is used. Maybe focussing on the actual lost revenues is where they should be looking?
So. Have you heard of hudro-electric power? How about wind power or solar power? And people aren't afraid of Chernobyl, they already know what nuclear pollution does to the world without the need for a meltdown.
At a UI level, the multiple desktops is the number one fallback for me. It's the greatest workflow tool ever for a decent multiprocessing OS.
kickass!
The NDC is still retarded and slow. NDC, the main Fibre-Laying body in this country, is only recently divorced from Telstra, the government carrier.
While the NDC clearly has the capacity to ramp up their pathetic response to capacity requests, they won't until they're sold. The problem is, everybody that's thought about buying them has found the same thing: they're top-heavy with old government employees and they've all retained their pension plans. They're not changing themselves and the rumours are that it's too much of an old boys club to ever do so.
Meanwhile, the fibre licenses have recently been shelled out to all the power companies, as they already have the right to dig up the streets. They're now scrambling around like headless chickens trying to figure out IP.
While things do look to be about to hot up, the history is bad. ISDN still costs ridiculous amounts now, and isn't any better than multiplexing a couple of modems for most users. Frame was never a widely-pblicised option and ATM is now too expensive to implement. The main carriers don't want to offer cable to businesses, and most people that have played with DSL have shyed away from the thought of placing gear at each Telstra exchange. Much less having to deal with the evil giant.
There's a lot of potential out there, but things are a wee while from being made clear. Certain providers are building brand new networks based on V90, which is missing the point. We're building the dream network of 1998 with only the dim spectre of VoIP sustaining the thought of network viability.
Sorry, but Bill's right.
Bill was here for the Olympics and got annoyed because all reporters wanted to ask him was "Why are my stocks doing badly?" :)
Right now, that is.
Having worked for one of Australia's largest ISPs for two years, I can safely say they have no clue what they are talking about. All ISPs are treated as telco's and the industry ombudsman actually asks the ISPs what constitutes a breach in the law! I'm not kidding, every time someone makes a serious complaint, they come to us and say "What legally constitutes a "port scan?""
How on earth is a body supposed to regulate an industry when not only are they asking the industry what the law is, but they have zero kowledge of the industry they're regulating?
I agree with the author in that the kinds of content abuses he mentions and the kind of attacks perpetrated on Undernet can never be effectively legislated against unless there is a knowledgeable framework within government.
While I would prefer to keep this out of the hands of individual nations (eg, Muslim fundamentalist governments arresting women for showing their faces on the Internet) I do think such a body needs to exist. The only suitable body would seem to be the UN. Though, when you're not American you tend to see the UN a little differently. Their manipulation of the media in not strictly factual ways is as bad as any government, and seems to be largely dictated by the US's fascist approach to demanding autonomy in any theatre they have an interest in. For instance their main complaint about signing the recent anti war crimes paper was that they might have US troops convicted. Apparently war crimes are for other people, Americans have Patriotism.
Sorry for the fanatic tinge here, but no government will ever be perfect. So a strictly democratic Internationl body is the best we're going to get for policing and tracking of offenders. We've all grown with this medium and it's time to realise there's those out there who would make things much worse not only for us but for everyone. Control it before we're all staring at inhouse "broadband" corporation shit like the television. Legislate that the Internet remains a definite body and corporations can't use the name on whatever they like, and there are rules therein.
Gah, MUDs kill me - nothing like em for exam avoidance and saying goodbye to any sort of learning. They scare me and so do you
I'd have to say GATTACA was pretty damn good. Seen Mission to Mars? Ugh.
It was more about the social ramifications, anyway. It wasn't intended to be a technical dissertation. The themes that came through were very strong, and exactly what we should be afraid of.
Don't think that people in the medical industry are necessarily pro this, either. It took a serious incident in an overseas country before my uncle, who works in diagnostics, would admit that my cousin had serious asthma. Why? He knew that it would already make it difficult to get a job.
Placing this under the medical disabilities frame of reference is disingenuous. While it may help those with outwardly obvious disabilities to be better accepted, it will turn a huge number of people into the genetically disadvantaged-an attitude the physically handicaped need to shed themselves. Abnormality isn't a handicap, it's a fact of life. Not being able to get up the stairs is just waiting for better medical technology. Being predisposed to cancer is no different.
There's only one way to fix this: Socialise health care. Yor employer shouldn't have the final call over life or death for you, so why the hell do so many in the states rely on their employers for their kids' safety?
Cliche time: Land of the free, indeed.
In proper countries, it's already Christmas!
Who are you replying to? I'm always astounded by the lack of rationale that goes into some ines of thinking. At no point did the argument even border on social selection. Merely stating that research is expensive and that people need to recoup costs is not racist or bigoted. The "expensive medicine" debate is fair, but hasn't been touchd on here. Coverall arguments are unintelligent and don't help anyone progress. Medical and biotech gear isn't going to get less expensive, because modst of it is based on open knowledge, like PCR. Can you find a cheap way to build a temperature-controlled centrifuge which is capable of balancing the current volume of genetic material used? Are you aware that that's in the picolitres? This isn't a text file, it's heavy, precise, industrial equipment. That's one of the most ubiquitous pieces of lab gear. There will in the future be a bunch of patent-based creations, like gene chips. Now, these will be based on patented genes, but don't have to be. It will mean you can take a dro pof blood and within minutes tell if you have any one of jundreds of genes. This is finally the kind of gear which will brig genetics to the world of mass production. Then, we will be talking about too-expensive solutions, but come back then. Right now, it's incredibly expensive and takes highly talented people. Not everyone wants to be a plumber, and Einstein was no biologist. I'd like to see him paying for most of that gear with a plumber's wage. Let's not forget, he mostly did math. That's a brain-and-paper deal - nowadays a computer one. Things have changed. While I could see the idea of corporations donating to individuals as an option, I'd like to see more than a few hundred people benefiting from this. So they'd form cooperatives to work on the stuff with government funding, and get jobs like say, teaching, ro make ends meet. Sounds alot like a university, doesn't it?
Yeah, I hate to say it, but the open source movement is nothing compared to this. Sure, Unix may have been variously developed under the auspices of academic control, but we're talking about the real deal here. I'd say 2-5% of the world's desktops run Linux or BSD, and 100% of the world's population incorporates almost identical complements of DNA. The biggest networked Unix distro isn't even open sourced!
Turnwise, not "spinwise."
The Fifth Elephant was definitely a very good read. Amazing the way in which he's (paradoxically) making the different species such as the dwarves more distinct and believable yet "human" at the same time. Nice to see a cold troll's silicon brain spark for once as well.
Earlier someone mentioned that the witches books are the least entertaining. I totally disagree: I think Rincewind is the least entertaining character by a longshot. The last witch book, Carpe Jugulum, is full of more thematic brilliance than the earlier Shakespeare parody, and shows a real commitment to his new "mystery" mode of writing as well as some fantastic telling of the life inside the mind. He turns vampires into a self-parody, but in the same instance reduces them to the most fearful thing they can be: the seducer and the evolutionary superior of humanity wrapped in a nice waistcoat. Granny Weatherwax has come a long way.
I'M REALLY NOT HERE TO TAKE YOUR MONEY.
Yeah Hawks vs Doves, the Prisoner's Dillemma and all that. It's all game theory. ESS's are just formulae for behavioural patterns over generations and iterations of similar events through an organism's life. See below.
Why? Explanation in three words: tit for tat. And yeah, damn nice. Notice this trhead is a little slim, though :)
Totally true. I don't know about the economists plotting against the geeks, but I'd have to say there's got to be a better trend towards knocking off the lower-scale industry qualificatins like the MCSE. Outsourcing for sysadmins will occur more often and you'll find that deals like those Compaq are doing for supply and support will whittle down the number of inhouse techs etc. Then, the biggest move will be that the damn Internet will get to the point where it's as easy to use as the marketing managers like to say it is. When that happens, me and all of my tech support buddies will be out on our ears. In short, the end will come from the bottom up. It will again reach an equilibrium where you need tertiay qualifications that are relevant and will need to get in at a higher level. And the current generation doing just that will provide a glut for the next two generations, just like in several academic fields.