So, your answer to my question is: the Proceedings of the Roman Curia. As I already stated, I skip sources that have a relation to the Catholic church, effectively leaving me with no reliable source comming from you. Please don't try to defend the Catholic church as a reliable source. I don't hold people who openly declare to believe in fairy tales as if they were facts in high regard.
You falsely suggest that "the Hindu group" you speak of has only the light complaints you mentioned. Since you named Aroup Chatterjee I will mention his homepage here so that other people can see how misleading your statement is: http://website.lineone.net/~bajuu/index.htm.
You raise a good point: there is very little that has been written about her that is genuinely non-partisan, and the non-partisan sources are generally either not in-depth (articles about her in Time magazine, for instance) or written in circumstances that don't lend themselves to impartial consideration (such as her Nobel laureate biography.)
You create a false dichotomy here. There are other sources. You even mentioned one yourself, namely Aroup Chatterjee. If he isn't impartial I don't know who is.
However, I believe you mistake in "skipping the sources that have a relation to the Catholic church". For one thing, since *all* sources that deal with her are partisan in one way or another, you are simply removing one source of bias and relying on a different source of bias, which of course will skew your conclusions.
Nice try, but no. You are essentially saying that by including all sources, whether they are biased or not, will result in a conclusion that comes closer to reality than if I evaluate the sources first and then draw my conclusions.
For another, you're mistaken in thinking that Catholic writers are universally hagiographical in dealing with her;
Please don't put words in my mouth. I did not say that.
she was criticised by orders within the Church (particularly the Jesuits) for what they saw, with some reason, as her Catholic bigotry ("bigotry" in the non-racial sense, meaning "excessive belief in the superiority of the Catholic religion.") (Of course, there are also Catholics even further to the extreme than she was, who criticized her for idolatry, because she attended Buddhist services.)
I don't even want to begin commenting on that. Tell me, where is the 1 (ONE!) hospital she built?
As you suggest, it is of course best to judge for yourself after looking at all the sources:
Could you please not put words in my mouth? I did not suggest to look at all the sources. I suggested to skip the sources that have a relation to the Catholic church. Do I really need to spell it out for you what the benefits for the Catholic church are if Mother Teresa will be declared a saint? Or if only her current public image (in the "West") will stay unchallenged?
from people who were her enemies for religious reasons; from people who supported her politically but opposed her theologically; from people who considered her solely as a temporal figure; and others. Some of the sources aren't worth anything, of course, both (on one side) the people who viewed her uncritically as a living saint, and (on the other) the people who castigate her as cynical and mercenary.
You do realise you're contradicting yourself here, now do you? Let me quote you:
For one thing, since *all* sources that deal with her are partisan in one way or another, you are simply removing one source of bias and relying on a different source of bias, which of course will skew your conclusions.
For Catholic views you can see the Proceedings of the Roman Curia, which is charged with reviewing her life and actions, and takes
Perhaps you can explain what of my statement you consider rubbish. My problem with Mother Teresa is that she did not help people at all. Well, if you consider letting people die as helping... Or *embracing* people with AIDS... Enormous amounts of money have been donated to her order, yet in all those years there was no money to build even 1 hospital. There are people in Calcutta who help the poor, but Mother Teresa was not one of them.
I will reply to fumblebruschi later.
[...]Mother Teresa, who was genuinely ascetic and devoted, whether the allegations you mention are true or not.
I often see people stating that as if it were fact. However, after doing a bit of research about her (skipping the sources that have a relation to the Catholic church) I got quite a different view of her. Perhaps you could support your statement by pointing me to your sources?
Almost the same here. I have an HP nx8220 laptop with an ATI Mobility Radeon X600. I run FC4. Once I figured out that there was some strange dependency on a lib of compat-libstdc++, I installed that package (compat-libstdc++-33-3.2.3-47.fc4.i386.rpm) and then everything worked as it should. That includes OpenGL hardware acceleration and TV out. I *have* had my laptop lock up once while turning on TV out.
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You create a false dichotomy here. There are other sources. You even mentioned one yourself, namely Aroup Chatterjee. If he isn't impartial I don't know who is.
Nice try, but no. You are essentially saying that by including all sources, whether they are biased or not, will result in a conclusion that comes closer to reality than if I evaluate the sources first and then draw my conclusions.
Please don't put words in my mouth. I did not say that.
I don't even want to begin commenting on that. Tell me, where is the 1 (ONE!) hospital she built?
Could you please not put words in my mouth? I did not suggest to look at all the sources. I suggested to skip the sources that have a relation to the Catholic church. Do I really need to spell it out for you what the benefits for the Catholic church are if Mother Teresa will be declared a saint? Or if only her current public image (in the "West") will stay unchallenged?
You do realise you're contradicting yourself here, now do you? Let me quote you:
Perhaps you can explain what of my statement you consider rubbish. My problem with Mother Teresa is that she did not help people at all. Well, if you consider letting people die as helping... Or *embracing* people with AIDS... Enormous amounts of money have been donated to her order, yet in all those years there was no money to build even 1 hospital. There are people in Calcutta who help the poor, but Mother Teresa was not one of them.
I will reply to fumblebruschi later.
Almost the same here. I have an HP nx8220 laptop with an ATI Mobility Radeon X600. I run FC4. Once I figured out that there was some strange dependency on a lib of compat-libstdc++, I installed that package (compat-libstdc++-33-3.2.3-47.fc4.i386.rpm) and then everything worked as it should. That includes OpenGL hardware acceleration and TV out. I *have* had my laptop lock up once while turning on TV out.