A computer runs programs, not Operating Systems. Therefore, and OS is just a program.
I am reading HACKERS, a nice book that has hacking at MIT in the fifties and sixties as its beginning. It mentions the time-sharing systems that the hackers loathed. (However, in the end, they themselves created ITS (the Incompatible Time-sharing System)).
Before time sharing, one program ran on the computer, unless it was a debugger or the like.
With ITS around, many programs could run at the same time. However, terminology can play a fun game. The PDP-6 itself was only running ITS. ITS was runing other programs.
You may ask then, "how can a program run other programs?". In the spirit of Socrates I'll tell you that if you ask that, you already have the answer.
And that is an Operating System.
Is WINE an OS? No, its an emulator. (Or is it?:-))
Is Linux under vmware an OS, yes. The virtual computer is another story, however.
If a company stores information, who cares? It is only when they identify it as you, or use your email address. Tracking the habits of non-identified users is not too much a problem.
I think the part that makes it offending, is that in the aura of society today, everyone says we're open, and yet we always think conspiracy. Noone ever does anything for altruistic purposes anymore. Everyone is sinister. And therefore everything must be held by contract, or mutual trust.
As mentioned elsewhere in these comments, they did it without telling anybody. And now they telling us not too worry. That makes me worry the most. What boggles the mind, is that Real Networks is a company, but as most companies, they are made up of people. Do these people need to justify it to themselves first? Have these people ever cared? Or do they believe that what you don't know can't hurt you? Without OSS everywhere, I'm glad this guy tracked this down.
In a 1998 survey of various ISPs, it was noted that 57.9% of computers ping to stay online. Problem was, it was wasting too much processing time on the server, causing some ISPs to have special servers just to respond to pings. That was all dandy until some kids decided to play "ping-pong" with the servers in a synchronized attack, and brought the ISP to its knees.
Well, one Admin decided it was time to get back. He logged three days worth of pings from the most used accounts, and started responding to pings that didn't exist. The hack that the guys wrote to ping the computer in the first place was not ready for it, and took down the computer.
The Admin spread the news, and it caught like wildfire. Soon there were many variations of the program and each added it's own flavor.
Then it hit. One guy realized that the amount of time responding to valid pings was double what it should be. But if the ping response was sent at the same time as the ping, it would cut the time down to half.
Working on this theory, and collecting average ping reports. Mike Roe Chip, Network Administrator for ISP Communications, designed a protocol in which the ping responses are sent out at the same time as the ping itself. It's is correct 99.99999 percent of the time, according to his Pentium(TM) based calculations. To make up for any incorrect responses, it sends out a Ping Response Cancel Packet. The new protocol is called DCPP (Detect and Correct Ping Protocol), based on APT (Advanced Pinged Technology), and is coming soon to servers in your area.
This is close to what I want, thank you. But more importantly, I want a service that will hold my email for X amount of days when my domain goes down. If not for that, I could do the rest myself.
What I have found, however, is that when you figure out the answer yourself, as you did, you thoroughly enjoy this problem. WHen someone tells you the answer, you may think it is dumb.
You answered number one and two very well. You are on the right track for number three. You are correct that statement is important, to some degree. Here is a hint. The most impotant thing is "The three stood silently for a while, none could figure out the answer.". That's what tipped me off when I read the question in some book. This one actually took me a few minutes to figure out. You'll enjoy it when you figure it out.
The second one was asked to me when I was in grade school, by an after-school math program teacher. While I knew what was wrong, I didn't know why. And it took years until I actually thought about it and figured it out.:-)
I actually do not like this style of riddle. It never really interested me. The logic I love, but the listing of rules just rubs me the wrong way.
Here's a few for you. The first can be solved with simple math. The second has something incorrect, and the third is logic.
A warning on the second, it has driven people crazy. I have only met one person who got the answer within seconds, and I do not think that he is smarter than the average bear. He just listened carefully, I guess.
1) A donkey and a mule were each carrying some packages. The donkey groaned. The mule, hearing the groan, asked the donkey rhetorically, "Why do you groan? If I were to give you one of my packages, we would be carrying the same amount, and if you gave me one of your packages I would then have double what you have!".
How much was each animal carrying?
2) Three people were on a business trip and needed to stay the night. Towards the evening they started to look for a room to rent. After a shortwhile they came accross a motel.
They entered the motel and asked the owner how much a room was for one night. He told them that thirty dollars would do it. So each one coughed up ten bucks, and off they went to their room.
A little while later the owner felt bad for he had overcharged them by five dollars. The room was only twenty five dollars a night. So, he got ahold of the bellboy, gave him five dollars, and asked him to give it back to them.
They bellboy, realizing that they each split the room, began to wonder how to split five dollars amongst three people. After a bit of thought he came up with a very simple solution. He gave one dollar back to each guy and pocketed the other two.
OK, story's over. But let's figure something out. Each guy paid ten dollars originally and got one dollar back, which means that they ended up paying nine dollars apiece for the room. Being they were three people, that is a total of twenty seven dollars. Let us not forget that the bellboy pocketed two dollars. Adding that to the total gives twenty nine dollars.
Where is the remaining dollar?
3) Three boys were playing on the beach, and all got mud on their forheads without knowning it. An older gentleman walked over to them and asked them to each take a look at both their friend's foreheads. And then, if either one, or both, had mud on their foreheads, they should raise their hand. Each one looked at both their friends, and then each raised their hand.
The older gentleman now asked a second question, and offered a dollar to whomever could prove their answer. The question was, "Without touching your own forehead, do you have mud on your own forehead?".
The three stood silently for a while, none could figure out the answer. Finally one raised his hand and said, "I have mud on my forehead." The man asked him how he knew, and he proceeded to give a proof. The man was satisfied and gave him the dollar.
Out of curiosity, who decided that the US owes the UN money? Or "dues"? IIRC, (and I probably do not, so _please_ correct me because I'd really like to know,) the US dues were promised by President Clinton, but never approved by Congress. If this is that case, then it carries no worth as all money matters _must_ start in the House, as declared by the U.S. Constitution.
May be this should be a slashdot poll (yeah, right) "should the US has a lot of power in the UN.) I'd rather just see it leave. Most of the world is not the US, and there is no reason for the US to force its ideas on other countries. Wasn't the UN formed to protect human right's? That is the one case where I believe the Monroe Doctrine should be ignored.
Any and all comment welcome here.
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IIRC, if you do not each meat, you will need an animal byproduct such as eggs or milk.
Now I am going completely from memory, (and I have no built-in error chcking). There are 28 protiens that you body needs to function properly. (Or is that 28 ameino acids?) With a number of them, your body can produce the rest, so you do not actually need to consume all 28. However, 8 of them come from animals, and cannot be manufactured otherwise (by your body).
Sheesh! I wasn't even complaining. I merely made a comment that while being "lightyears ahead" they don't even support lynx.
I will give them credit, however, for a tailored message.
I use lynx at work, since my only internet connection is because of a shell account I have on another's SunOS box. The proxy allows his machine to go through, and only on port 80. My job puts me on the phones, so I have a lot of free time to read on the Internet. And for that, lynx is great. (Except that/. comments are a bit squished together.) I don't expect register.com to support lynx. But at least mentioning who they are, and other material should be availible IMHO.
I just thought that a "good company" would cater to all people browsing their site. Keeping lynx out of the secure parts is fine. Out of reading material is a bit too far. I have the time _now_ to read it. When I go home, I'd rather just do whatever it was that I could not do here. Whatever. Again, I wasn't complaining, just commenting.
Register.com - Domain Name Registration Services Browser Problem. I'm sorry, but this site is not viewable with Lynx. Thank you for your understanding.
This is lightyears ahead??
--------------- On/. preview before you submit. So why is the submit button first? Hmm.. Rob must be evil. Clinton will not give any money to/. until Rob is removed from it's leadership. -- Just my two cen... forget that... I'm broke from my last comment.
1) Emacs is not a text editor. Its a macro environment. As Linus said, "It's now the GNU Emacs of all terminal emulators." If emacs really is *just* a text editor with fancy features, then it is bloatware. But, I never saw it that way. 2) I know this is strange, but a friend of mine does this, and I am planning on doing it to. Get VMware, and run IE5 under Windows. I'm serious! A lean windows installation used for nothing but browsing, will proably load faster than Netscape. And, as much as I hated the earlier releases of IE, IE5 loads pages really quickly. Just try/. one day. IE5 leaves Netscape in its dust. (Did some one say, "benchmark"?:-) ) 3) Lynx can show pictures in a separate VT. Check the cfg file.
-- Just my one cent. I'm too cheap to give the other.
Thanx for the clarification. Half of me was serious, half was not. The half that was thanks you, the other half is laughing its head off that you took me seriously.:-)
Yahoo! just ain't so Yahoo! anymore. Maybe we should change it to Yahoo?.
Can you imagine if/. decided to own all the comments here? Maybe just the ones with positive ratings.:-P
----------------------------------- Slashdot++ is in overload mode.
I thought it was contradictory. We cannot be help responsible yet they own it?? Also, don't use it to harm kids!?!
And, what is a sublicenceable right?
-------------------------------------------- Wh ich scares off potential emacs users more? The trapped in feeling when they can't exit, or when they can't exit help after backspacing into it.
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A computer runs programs, not Operating Systems. Therefore, and OS is just a program.
:-))
I am reading HACKERS, a nice book that has hacking at MIT in the fifties and sixties as its beginning. It mentions the time-sharing systems that the hackers loathed. (However, in the end, they themselves created ITS (the Incompatible Time-sharing System)).
Before time sharing, one program ran on the computer, unless it was a debugger or the like.
With ITS around, many programs could run at the same time. However, terminology can play a fun game. The PDP-6 itself was only running ITS. ITS was runing other programs.
You may ask then, "how can a program run other programs?". In the spirit of Socrates I'll tell you that if you ask that, you already have the answer.
And that is an Operating System.
Is WINE an OS? No, its an emulator. (Or is it?
Is Linux under vmware an OS, yes. The virtual computer is another story, however.
Just some thoughts.
(Not sure about that one though)
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Say this three time real fast:
Linux may mimic Minix, but Minix does not mimic Linux.
If a company stores information, who cares? It is only when they identify it as you, or use your email address. Tracking the habits of non-identified users is not too much a problem.
I think the part that makes it offending, is that in the aura of society today, everyone says we're open, and yet we always think conspiracy. Noone ever does anything for altruistic purposes anymore. Everyone is sinister. And therefore everything must be held by contract, or mutual trust.
As mentioned elsewhere in these comments, they did it without telling anybody. And now they telling us not too worry. That makes me worry the most. What boggles the mind, is that Real Networks is a company, but as most companies, they are made up of people. Do these people need to justify it to themselves first? Have these people ever cared? Or do they believe that what you don't know can't hurt you? Without OSS everywhere, I'm glad this guy tracked this down.
Actually, it was a reply to billybob's comment. Specifically, about not using something that people don't support.
:-)
Sorry for the confusion, and thanks for the reply. It makes me feel *so* important.
Oh come, come, my dear friend,
/., my amour
who must have lots off time,
it isn't all too easy,
to come up with a rhyme.
You slash your self a nic,
and dot your comment through,
to comment on a nit-pick,
instead of posting true.
Is this what you really want?
Are you not ashamed?
You post something important,
and do it while unnamed?
I look at your commaents past,
this name it does a lot.
seems like you have a blast,
and think your pretty hot.
You even post a rhyme,
here for all to see,
but now I'll boast you as I chime,
how wonderous to see.
For you rhyme lines two and four,
and skip lines one and three,
and here I am doing more,
why you go running free.
Oh my this is off-topic,
but rhymes I can't ignore,
when I see I go myoptic,
for this I so adore.
The main point of your post,
one you made in jest,
one I think that people most,
will read at your behest.
when moderating, be true,
this isn't just a game,
given by I-don't-care-who,
I don't really need a name.
There was recently a day,
reading
combo boxes there did lay,
how did this occur?
I had a point of moderation,
so I clicked on the helpful link,
it said it's better used for escalation,
then drowning those that stink.
Well, I was feeling rather sappy,
to add to a comments rating,
and instead of feeling there so hapy,
I found myself berating.
Berating myself for caring,
like I thought that I was cooler,
was I do be so daring?
to give points like a ruler.
No, I should really be better,
I should give the point out with care,
read the comments to the letter,
and decide first if I dare.
In the end I was quite confused,
not sure how to sort it out,
but I shall not be accused,
of doing it out of doubt.
All in all as a group,
people mean so well,
those that are outside the loop,
are easy to dispell.
- You can't state your feelings while walking on rose petals.
- If enough people follow this, browsers will support it.
Browsers are like languages. The standards are defined by their use, not by rules.In a 1998 survey of various ISPs, it was noted that 57.9% of computers ping to stay online. Problem was, it was wasting too much processing time on the server, causing some ISPs to have special servers just to respond to pings. That was all dandy until some kids decided to play "ping-pong" with the servers in a synchronized attack, and brought the ISP to its knees.
Well, one Admin decided it was time to get back. He logged three days worth of pings from the most used accounts, and started responding to pings that didn't exist. The hack that the guys wrote to ping the computer in the first place was not ready for it, and took down the computer.
The Admin spread the news, and it caught like wildfire. Soon there were many variations of the program and each added it's own flavor.
Then it hit. One guy realized that the amount of time responding to valid pings was double what it should be. But if the ping response was sent at the same time as the ping, it would cut the time down to half.
Working on this theory, and collecting average ping reports. Mike Roe Chip, Network Administrator for ISP Communications, designed a protocol in which the ping responses are sent out at the same time as the ping itself. It's is correct 99.99999 percent of the time, according to his Pentium(TM) based calculations. To make up for any incorrect responses, it sends out a Ping Response Cancel Packet. The new protocol is called DCPP (Detect and Correct Ping Protocol), based on APT (Advanced Pinged Technology), and is coming soon to servers in your area.
This is close to what I want, thank you. But more importantly, I want a service that will hold my email for X amount of days when my domain goes down. If not for that, I could do the rest myself.
:-)
Glad I could be of service.
What I have found, however, is that when you figure out the answer yourself, as you did, you thoroughly enjoy this problem. WHen someone tells you the answer, you may think it is dumb.
Try it on a few friends. See what they think.
Excellent. You absolutely right. Now don't you feel good all over. :-)
You answered number one and two very well. You are on the right track for number three. You are correct that statement is important, to some degree. Here is a hint. The most impotant thing is "The three stood silently for a while, none could figure out the answer.". That's what tipped me off when I read the question in some book. This one actually took me a few minutes to figure out. You'll enjoy it when you figure it out.
:-)
The second one was asked to me when I was in grade school, by an after-school math program teacher. While I knew what was wrong, I didn't know why. And it took years until I actually thought about it and figured it out.
*Could* not solve it, or *would* not?
I actually do not like this style of riddle. It never really interested me. The logic I love, but the listing of rules just rubs me the wrong way.
Here's a few for you. The first can be solved with simple math. The second has something incorrect, and the third is logic.
A warning on the second, it has driven people crazy. I have only met one person who got the answer within seconds, and I do not think that he is smarter than the average bear. He just listened carefully, I guess.
1) A donkey and a mule were each carrying some packages. The donkey groaned. The mule, hearing the groan, asked the donkey rhetorically, "Why do you groan? If I were to give you one of my packages, we would be carrying the same amount, and if you gave me one of your packages I would then have double what you have!".
How much was each animal carrying?
2) Three people were on a business trip and needed to stay the night. Towards the evening they started to look for a room to rent. After a shortwhile they came accross a motel.
They entered the motel and asked the owner how much a room was for one night. He told them that thirty dollars would do it. So each one coughed up ten bucks, and off they went to their room.
A little while later the owner felt bad for he had overcharged them by five dollars. The room was only twenty five dollars a night. So, he got ahold of the bellboy, gave him five dollars, and asked him to give it back to them.
They bellboy, realizing that they each split the room, began to wonder how to split five dollars amongst three people. After a bit of thought he came up with a very simple solution. He gave one dollar back to each guy and pocketed the other two.
OK, story's over. But let's figure something out. Each guy paid ten dollars originally and got one dollar back, which means that they ended up paying nine dollars apiece for the room. Being they were three people, that is a total of twenty seven dollars. Let us not forget that the bellboy pocketed two dollars. Adding that to the total gives twenty nine dollars.
Where is the remaining dollar?
3) Three boys were playing on the beach, and all got mud on their forheads without knowning it. An older gentleman walked over to them and asked them to each take a look at both their friend's foreheads. And then, if either one, or both, had mud on their foreheads, they should raise their hand. Each one looked at both their friends, and then each raised their hand.
The older gentleman now asked a second question, and offered a dollar to whomever could prove their answer. The question was, "Without touching your own forehead, do you have mud on your own forehead?".
The three stood silently for a while, none could figure out the answer. Finally one raised his hand and said, "I have mud on my forehead." The man asked him how he knew, and he proceeded to give a proof. The man was satisfied and gave him the dollar.
What was the proof?
Well, _I_ double checked that it all worked. :-)
:-)
He seems to have edited my story and missed a small point. The extra words "First,they're a href=" was from my story.
Not a complaint. Just clearing my side.
I'm no expert, but I am running Starcraft under NT4 in VMware, Linux 2.2.10. Once masquerading was up, it all seemed to work well with no extra setup.
WoW! I love /. State what you heard in a nice way, and knowledgeable people will respond. Open Source Comments. :-) Thanx guys.
Out of curiosity, who decided that the US owes the UN money? Or "dues"? IIRC, (and I probably do not, so _please_ correct me because I'd really like to know,) the US dues were promised by President Clinton, but never approved by Congress. If this is that case, then it carries no worth as all money matters _must_ start in the House, as declared by the U.S. Constitution.
May be this should be a slashdot poll (yeah, right) "should the US has a lot of power in the UN.) I'd rather just see it leave. Most of the world is not the US, and there is no reason for the US to force its ideas on other countries. Wasn't the UN formed to protect human right's? That is the one case where I believe the Monroe Doctrine should be ignored.
Any and all comment welcome here.
IIRC, if you do not each meat, you will need an animal byproduct such as eggs or milk.
Now I am going completely from memory, (and I have no built-in error chcking). There are 28 protiens that you body needs to function properly. (Or is that 28 ameino acids?) With a number of them, your body can produce the rest, so you do not actually need to consume all 28. However, 8 of them come from animals, and cannot be manufactured otherwise (by your body).
Sheesh! I wasn't even complaining. I merely made a comment that while being "lightyears ahead" they don't even support lynx.
/. comments are a bit squished together.) I don't expect register.com to support lynx. But at least mentioning who they are, and other material should be availible IMHO.
I will give them credit, however, for a tailored message.
I use lynx at work, since my only internet connection is because of a shell account I have on another's SunOS box. The proxy allows his machine to go through, and only on port 80. My job puts me on the phones, so I have a lot of free time to read on the Internet. And for that, lynx is great. (Except that
I just thought that a "good company" would cater to all people browsing their site. Keeping lynx out of the secure parts is fine. Out of reading material is a bit too far. I have the time _now_ to read it. When I go home, I'd rather just do whatever it was that I could not do here. Whatever. Again, I wasn't complaining, just commenting.
lynx http://www.register.com
/. preview before you submit. So why is the submit button first? Hmm.. Rob must be evil. Clinton will not give any money to /. until Rob is removed from it's leadership. -- Just my two cen... forget that... I'm broke from my last comment.
Register.com - Domain Name Registration Services
Browser Problem.
I'm sorry, but this site is not viewable with Lynx. Thank you for your understanding.
This is lightyears ahead??
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I simply tried '~:$lynx http://rs.internic.net/cgi-bin/whois/whois?moocow. com' and I got a record, and a note to "please" read the disclaimer.
What ever happened to remebering URL's?
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Q: What's up?
A: A direction.
Three points ...
/. one day. IE5 leaves Netscape in its dust. (Did some one say, "benchmark"? :-) )
But seriously,
1) Emacs is not a text editor. Its a macro environment. As Linus said, "It's now the GNU Emacs of all terminal emulators." If emacs really is *just* a text editor with fancy features, then it is bloatware. But, I never saw it that way.
2) I know this is strange, but a friend of mine does this, and I am planning on doing it to. Get VMware, and run IE5 under Windows. I'm serious! A lean windows installation used for nothing but browsing, will proably load faster than Netscape. And, as much as I hated the earlier releases of IE, IE5 loads pages really quickly. Just try
3) Lynx can show pictures in a separate VT. Check the cfg file.
-- Just my one cent. I'm too cheap to give the other.
Did you check Pricewatch. I think it is one of the best places to start.
Thanx for the clarification. Half of me was serious, half was not. The half that was thanks you, the other half is laughing its head off that you took me seriously. :-)
/. decided to own all the comments here? Maybe just the ones with positive ratings. :-P
Yahoo! just ain't so Yahoo! anymore. Maybe we should change it to Yahoo?.
Can you imagine if
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Slashdot++ is in overload mode.
I thought it was contradictory. We cannot be help responsible yet they own it??
h ich scares off potential emacs users more? The trapped in feeling when they can't exit, or when they can't exit help after backspacing into it.
Also, don't use it to harm kids!?!
And, what is a sublicenceable right?
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Anyone see Zenon: Girl of the 21st Century?
I think this was the disk that everyone was after. Anyone have a vid-cap of it?