They want something published by a publishing company.
Of course, what is the difference if the software vendor publishes it or a official publishing house makes it?
No difference!!
But he ya, authors need to live also:)
Is there a definition of military grade encryption
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Hi,
If read my give and take below with Abcd1234 about military grade encryption, he refuses to concede that there is no such thing, as the book reviewer stated.
I still challenge anyone to provide an authoritative definition of what military grade encryption is.
Karen
Re:Mil Grade Crypto... IS defined :-P
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>>>>I'm not sure why I'm bothering
Cuz you are a sore loser who can't admit he is wrong:)
>>"military grade" means something because it is assumed that, in a given application, the military will require greater security than I will.
See what happens when you assume?
You have said nothing here.
The military does not always need greater security.
>>Therefore, if someone says "for job X, military grade is Y", then if I need to perform job X, I'll use Y, because the military believes it's sufficient for their needs, and thus it's likely sufficient for mine.
As I said, what if in that specific case, your need is greater than the military?
Which leads me way, way, way back to the question? Can you provide me with a authoritative definition of military grade encryption?
So far, neither you nor anyone has provided that.
Perhaps.... There is no such thing.
Re:Should rename the book
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Mr. Lucas,
I assume you really are he. Great boook! you liked the review?
Check out the sales rank from Amazon:
Amazon.com Sales Rank: #2,319 in Books Yesterday: #59,080 in Books/. reviews really bring in the sales!/. should start getting a commision:)
Re:So What Does It Mean?
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>>>The inventors of public key encryption envisioned a future where encrypting email would be as common as stuffing a letter in an envelope.
Where do you base this on?
I don't recollect such as statement from Rivest, Shamir, Adelman, or Diffie and Hellman.
>>Phishing would be unheard of since a digital signature would prove that the mail came from who it said it did.
I doubt that.
Most people would not take the time to verify the key that states Citibank on it really is from the real Citibank, and not some boiler room in Estonia.
>>>The US government, of course, didn't want this future to come about and put roadblocks in place to prevent it.
Re:Mil Grade Crypto... IS defined :-P
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>>>Is this really that difficult to understand?
It is easy to understand.
What is comes down to is that military grade encryption means suitable for whatever the task it.
And what that means is.... Ta da! Military grade encryption is a meaningless term since it lacks any sort of formal definition.
Is this really that difficult to understand?????
Re:Mil Grade Crypto... IS defined :-P
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That is not the case at all.
Suppose for whatever reason they decide to use a 40-bit cipher. Perhaps there is a secret they only need to keep secure for 30 minutes, or they have an old PC.
So in this case, a 40-bit cipher would be sufficient to protect their data in that case.
So would that make a 40-bit cipher military-grade encryption?
If you don't like that argument, ca you definitively classify what 'military-grade encryption' is?
Re:Mil Grade Crypto... IS defined :-P
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So do we then define military-grade encryption as sufficient to protect ones data?
If that is the case, 40-bit encryption falls into that category.
Heck, include a Ceaser cipher.
This proves the point that military-grade encryption is a useless term..
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Hey, I have been too more than a few hotels where they advertise in their brochures Olympic size pools.
Turns out they meant 'really big pool'.
Re:Mil Grade Crypto... IS defined :-P
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What I read at the NSA web site is about AES, and AES, like its predecessor DES, was specifically NOT used for top secret information.
The gist here is that the term 'military-grade encryption' is meaningless since the is no such thing as military-grade encryption.
If the Army today decides to uses 56-bit DES, does that mean it is military-grade encryption?
Not sure what the problem is here.
There are still a lot of people who are not online.
There are still a lot of people that have long train or bus rides and want to read something along the way.
Yeah, there is free stuff, but it is not always accessible to everyone.
Slashdot Mirror
The official sports swimming governing bodies have standards for all of this.
Go check them out if you are interested.
No.
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They want something published by a publishing company.
Of course, what is the difference if the software vendor publishes it or a official publishing house makes it?
No difference!!
But he ya, authors need to live also
Hi,
If read my give and take below with Abcd1234 about military grade encryption, he refuses to concede that there is no such thing, as the book reviewer stated.
I still challenge anyone to provide an authoritative definition of what military grade encryption is.
Karen
>>>>I'm not sure why I'm bothering
:)
Cuz you are a sore loser who can't admit he is wrong
>>"military grade" means something because it is assumed that, in a given application, the military will require greater security than I will.
See what happens when you assume?
You have said nothing here.
The military does not always need greater security.
>>Therefore, if someone says "for job X, military grade is Y", then if I need to perform job X, I'll use Y, because the military believes it's sufficient for their needs, and thus it's likely sufficient for mine.
As I said, what if in that specific case, your need is greater than the military?
Which leads me way, way, way back to the question? Can you provide me with a authoritative definition of military grade encryption?
So far, neither you nor anyone has provided that.
Perhaps.... There is no such thing.
Mr. Lucas,
/. reviews really bring in the sales! /. should start getting a commision :)
I assume you really are he. Great boook! you liked the review?
Check out the sales rank from Amazon:
Amazon.com Sales Rank: #2,319 in Books
Yesterday: #59,080 in Books
>>>The inventors of public key encryption envisioned a future where encrypting email would be as common as stuffing a letter in an envelope. Where do you base this on? I don't recollect such as statement from Rivest, Shamir, Adelman, or Diffie and Hellman. >>Phishing would be unheard of since a digital signature would prove that the mail came from who it said it did. I doubt that. Most people would not take the time to verify the key that states Citibank on it really is from the real Citibank, and not some boiler room in Estonia. >>>The US government, of course, didn't want this future to come about and put roadblocks in place to prevent it.
>>>Is this really that difficult to understand? It is easy to understand. What is comes down to is that military grade encryption means suitable for whatever the task it. And what that means is.... Ta da! Military grade encryption is a meaningless term since it lacks any sort of formal definition. Is this really that difficult to understand?????
That is not the case at all. Suppose for whatever reason they decide to use a 40-bit cipher. Perhaps there is a secret they only need to keep secure for 30 minutes, or they have an old PC. So in this case, a 40-bit cipher would be sufficient to protect their data in that case. So would that make a 40-bit cipher military-grade encryption? If you don't like that argument, ca you definitively classify what 'military-grade encryption' is?
So do we then define military-grade encryption as sufficient to protect ones data? If that is the case, 40-bit encryption falls into that category. Heck, include a Ceaser cipher. This proves the point that military-grade encryption is a useless term..
Hey, I have been too more than a few hotels where they advertise in their brochures Olympic size pools. Turns out they meant 'really big pool'.
Actually, someone did that!! One author has about 8 books where he puts together the RFC's. See: Big Book of IPsec RFCs: Internet Security Architecture http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0124558399/qid=11 51423374/sr=1-3/ref=sr_1_3/103-1855961-0175038?s=b ooks&v=glance&n=283155
Big Book of IP Telephony RFCs
http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/0124 558550/qid=1151423446/sr=1-3/ref=sr_1_3/103-185596 1-0175038?v=glance&s=books
Big Book of Multiprotocol Label Switching RFCs
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0124558534/qid=11 51423446/sr=1-5/ref=sr_1_5/103-1855961-0175038?s=b ooks&v=glance&n=283155
He has many others.
I think he would have printed more but ran out of RFC's :)
Karen
What I read at the NSA web site is about AES, and AES, like its predecessor DES, was specifically NOT used for top secret information. The gist here is that the term 'military-grade encryption' is meaningless since the is no such thing as military-grade encryption. If the Army today decides to uses 56-bit DES, does that mean it is military-grade encryption?
Not sure what the problem is here. There are still a lot of people who are not online. There are still a lot of people that have long train or bus rides and want to read something along the way. Yeah, there is free stuff, but it is not always accessible to everyone.