Hard to take your setup on a plane or walk around an exposition with it though. hahahahaha
Everything has its place.
My desktop with a fatty screen works well for my photobusiness. Editing, organizing, developing and printing prints on my nice new R-3000. The iPad works nicely when shooting to preview photos being sent from the 2nd eye-Fi card which has my jpeg's.
Kind of like Darwins concept of survival of the fit (not the fittest as most people mistakenly think). All companies making a profit can compete to some degree or other and this is great for consumers.
I like apple products because they have served my technical needs. I like apple because they make money for me by making profits. They may or may not remain the way they are now... companies rise and fall. Luckily for me Apple seem to be in a great position for the next 5-6 years before the next paradigm shift.
I think when people argue apple vs android it is kind of silly. Both are excellent products. The main difference is that most companies are still figuring out how to make money on androids. There is too much movement on the android market and too many companies doing too many things. But perhaps some company or a few will really figure it out and get themselves lined up for solid revenue streams. Until they do there will always be folks talking about Apple and profitability and the mad scramble among android phone makers.
Apple fanboys are proud of their devices the way drivers of Porsche cars are about their cars. I know plenty of Android Fanboys to and they are also proud of their higher end Android devices.
They are always showing me their cool stuff. And it is android phones are great devices. I will still be buying an iPhone because it has the software I need to run and does things I want it to do for me.
Still you are right if the folks you are referring to are merely proud of apple only for the profits as if they do indeed equate it with improved consumer experience. I don't know any such people,but I suppose they might exist.
Hmmm I think it has more to do with what was available and what people can afford. When there is such giant slashing of prices and 2 for 1 deals, it just makes more sense to buy an android which can offer some parallel functionality to iOS. Mostly it ends up being about personal economics and a host of other factors.
I don't think most people care which device the software they want is on. They just want their functionality and they need to do it at a price they can afford. Androids sell so well because the bulk of them are far more inexpensive than an iPhone and offer lots of power and cool features.
Most people just don't go wow I want an android cause most people don't know what that is or means. They are more wowed by what they can do with one for a cheaper price in general.
Hmmm if the company selling your phone isn't profitable I think that might be concerning. All manufacturer's need to be profitable otherwise they go the way of Atari or Amiga. Great gadgets, but no longer here.
I'm glad apple is greedy. At least my stock will continue to fly up! People always seem to imbue corporations with human characteristics. Samsung, HTC or any other company would love to make the same profits that Apple does. Most companies would but they can't currently. Will some company down the road make even more soaring profits than Apple. Yep. Right now they seem to have a formula that works is all and it is hard to emulate.
I suppose this would be groundbreaking news if it had come out before when the iPad 2 came out. It is nice that there are faster processors coming out all of the time. I would hate for it to be as slow as the A5. I would have to start worrying about my nVidia stock or something. Good to see it is trading up today.!!!! Whoohoo.
I agree... there is a dilution of ones voting power. One gets the choice of voting for some of the things one wants and accepts that a lot of other things they don't want will dominate as well. It is a choice between greater evils rather than a choice for those who will do most of what one wants. Not saying it is bad, but it is demoralizing and doesn't lead one to feel like their vote actually matters.
We could use a little less governance of the sort we have had for the past 30 or so years on this side of the pond. The middle class is losing ground due to leaders who don't put the citizens first, but their own pocketbooks and the pocketbooks of those who buy them.
The internet belongs to everyone. The ISP's are more like rental agents.... of course they have hardware to conduct their business, but that doesn't connote ownership of the property. Just like rental agents have offices, cars, phones and other stuff to conduct their business; ISP's have servers. That doesn't mean they own the internet.
ah... for some reason I thought it looked small. I didn't really look at the specs. My bad. Well either way. I prefer the smaller size. I would even prefer a smaller version of the iPhone. Only thing I want is a nice sharp screen and not some pixelated thing.
You are probably right. The Droid RAZR being thinner is a giant bonus. Hopefully it will maintain some considerable durability. I have always loved motorola for durability and battery life. I once washed my phone and ran it through the dryer and it still worked!!! Amazing phones.
Hmmmm.... yes, but my 7 year old mac mini will sell for $150 when I paid only $600 new. I don't know of many Athlon 1.4Ghz systems which will sell for much of anything. Sure everything eventually ends up on the dung heap, but Apple products do tend to hold their value for several years longer when compared to their PC analogues.
Obviously you haven't met any Linux/GPL Fansboi... they are simply the worst. Oh and you haven't met any Microsoft Fanboi.... those people are really over the top. hehehehhee.
I have never had an iPhone, but I think I will be buying my first two over the holiday. There will be lots of people like me who want a 4S. I don't care that it isn't called the 5.... who cares about the number. There are lots of people who are under some sort of contract because of buying an iPhone 4. They will all be coming off of their contracts so the iPhone might get a bump from this group. ( I suppose this will be after the holiday). I also know lots of older people who are planning to get iPhones and iPads in the next 6 months or so. Call it the grandma factor. I just don't see apple sales slacking off as you seem to suggest.
Most people are extremely happy with their iPhones. I only know a few folks who tried them and didn't like them much. But the bulk of people become iPhone zombies. I know cause they are everywhere all over the streets of our city.... mindlessly checking things....living a life tethered largely to their tiny device etc.
Siri no doubt will have lots of kinks, but the power of it will be great by the time it hits the 4-5 generation of the technology. I remember back when I first heard a computer voice come out of my Atari.... sounded cool, but it was rather primitive sounding and not useful really. Now computer generated voices are a mainstay of parts of our society. These technologies take time to evolve to utility.
Iphone sales will continue to increase as will Android based phones. There is a wide open non-saturated smartphone market so each quarter the top phone makers numbers will continue to be strong and mostly record breaking until the market is swamped. Android based phones will outpace Apple as they have been for quite some time, but as past results seem to indicate, Apple should rake in the bulk of the profits. While android makers are left sifting through the scaps. Apple seems to be adept at monetizing their stuff.
iPhone sales will be driven by older iphone owners coming off of contract, old ladies, young people who just want an iPhone cause their friends have one, new customers like myself. I would predict that Apple will sell somewhere north of 20 million iphones in the quarter. Androids will sell more than 50 million. Apple will take 70% of the entire markets profits. Their stock will rise. People will start thinking about the iPhone 5 after the holiday and how long it will take them to get the next one.
As I said before.... hardware matters little. What matters is the flow of user experience. 4 years from now the 4 S will and Samsungs current offering will be rather dated. Most of what we now view as cutting edge will be beatup junk going to be disposed of. Hardware evolves rather rapidly. Each platform leapfrogs the other every new hardware release.
How do these devices transform how our lives ? These transformations are largely due to software. The true innovation is in software.
Apple does a great job for a large number of people. Some people don't like the way they do it. Luckily there are others who are willing to step up and offer other solutions. That is what is great about the free market. I don't think anyone needs to defend or attack anyone since it is all so useless. Use what you want to use. Use what works for you and transforms your life.
I'm just now sure why people have such emotional investments in for or against arguments about either company.
The phone is just a mechanism for delivery of the real product. Hardware doesn't matter as long as the experience is fluid and it meets its requirements for about 3 years. Then you get another phone. I rarely have a phone longer than 2-3 years. They are a disposable technology really. Same with computers. How many people are actually doing production level work on a machine older than 5 years.
People always act like the hardware is the biggest deal... it isn't. Hardware is just a vehicle for the end user experience and most of these tiny computers are capable of giving a great user experience. But experience and function come from software and this is where smartphones shine. Luckily, the consumer continues to win as thing progress along. The iPhone of merely 4 years ago is nowhere near as nice as the current one. That same will be true about the phone 4-5 or 6 years from now.
Yep.... if you want a bigger screen get one, but it won't be an iPhone which is fine. I don't get why everyone always needs a bigger screen.. it is a phone first right? I can't wait for the new Moto Razr... looks interesting and small, like a phone should be.
Yeah, I concur with you heathen... and who really wants to carry a big cludgy brick around.... not me for one. ( I own neither iPhone or Android) The new Razr seems interesting size wise to me. I used to have a Visor and it was just too big.
It is a phone first after all. If you want a big screen get a 7" tablet.
I don't have an iphone, but most people who have one continue to do so because of how well it works for them. Marketing only makes you buy it, once you own an iPhone why does one keep using it and why does one buy another one? Certainly that isn't marketing. That is addiction. In my humble observation iPhones become an addiction for most humans, but a socially acceptable one it seems.
Personally, I don't think apple has to do much marketing for the iPhone. The buzz and hype are worth 4-5 times the cost of actual marketing.
One of the things I don't want on my phone is a big screen. I used to carry a handspring visor with springboard phone around for about 3 years. Big Screen, Big phone. Not really for me. One thing I don't want is for them to upsize the iphone so I can carry some big brick in my hand.
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Hard to take your setup on a plane or walk around an exposition with it though. hahahahaha
Everything has its place.
My desktop with a fatty screen works well for my photobusiness. Editing, organizing, developing and printing prints on my nice new R-3000.
The iPad works nicely when shooting to preview photos being sent from the 2nd eye-Fi card which has my jpeg's.
Kind of like Darwins concept of survival of the fit (not the fittest as most people mistakenly think).
All companies making a profit can compete to some degree or other and this is great for consumers.
I like apple products because they have served my technical needs.
I like apple because they make money for me by making profits.
They may or may not remain the way they are now... companies rise and fall.
Luckily for me Apple seem to be in a great position for the next 5-6 years before the next paradigm shift.
I think when people argue apple vs android it is kind of silly. Both are excellent products.
The main difference is that most companies are still figuring out how to make money on androids.
There is too much movement on the android market and too many companies doing too many things.
But perhaps some company or a few will really figure it out and get themselves lined up for solid revenue streams.
Until they do there will always be folks talking about Apple and profitability and the mad scramble among
android phone makers.
Apple fanboys are proud of their devices the way drivers of Porsche cars are about their cars.
I know plenty of Android Fanboys to and they are also proud of their higher end Android devices.
They are always showing me their cool stuff. And it is android phones are great devices.
I will still be buying an iPhone because it has the software I need to run and does things I want it to do for me.
Still you are right if the folks you are referring to are merely proud of apple only for the profits as if they do indeed equate it with improved consumer experience.
I don't know any such people,but I suppose they might exist.
Not always. There are not always free alternatives to every piece of software. Nor does free always mean good.
Just like some free and great software on Android isn't available for iOS.
Separate platforms have some of the same software, some divergent but similar, and some completely different from the other platform.
Hmmm I think it has more to do with what was available and what people can afford.
When there is such giant slashing of prices and 2 for 1 deals, it just makes more sense to buy an android which can offer some parallel functionality to iOS.
Mostly it ends up being about personal economics and a host of other factors.
I don't think most people care which device the software they want is on. They just want their functionality and they need to do it at a price they can afford. Androids sell so well because the bulk of them are far more inexpensive than an iPhone and offer lots of power and cool features.
Most people just don't go wow I want an android cause most people don't know what that is or means. They are more wowed by what they can do with one for a cheaper price in general.
Hmmm if the company selling your phone isn't profitable I think that might be concerning. All manufacturer's need to be profitable otherwise they go the way of Atari or Amiga. Great gadgets, but no longer here.
I'm glad apple is greedy. At least my stock will continue to fly up! People always seem to imbue corporations with human characteristics.
Samsung, HTC or any other company would love to make the same profits that Apple does. Most companies would but they can't currently.
Will some company down the road make even more soaring profits than Apple. Yep.
Right now they seem to have a formula that works is all and it is hard to emulate.
I suppose this would be groundbreaking news if it had come out before when the iPad 2 came out. It is nice that there are faster processors coming out all of the time. I would hate for it to be as slow as the A5. I would have to start worrying about my nVidia stock or something. Good to see it is trading up today.!!!! Whoohoo.
I love it .... most excellent!
I agree... there is a dilution of ones voting power. One gets the choice of voting for some of the things one wants and accepts that a lot of other things they don't want will dominate as well.
It is a choice between greater evils rather than a choice for those who will do most of what one wants.
Not saying it is bad, but it is demoralizing and doesn't lead one to feel like their vote actually matters.
We could use a little less governance of the sort we have had for the past 30 or so years on this side of the pond. The middle class is losing ground due to leaders who don't put the citizens first, but their own pocketbooks and the pocketbooks of those who buy them.
The internet belongs to everyone.
The ISP's are more like rental agents.... of course they have hardware to conduct their business, but that doesn't connote ownership of the property.
Just like rental agents have offices, cars, phones and other stuff to conduct their business; ISP's have servers. That doesn't mean they own the internet.
hahahahah.... made me laugh.
flash-mob-site-visits in other words.
I even like that my toaster has a dial and a mechanical mechanism to lower the toast. It always works just exactly as it should.
ah... for some reason I thought it looked small. I didn't really look at the specs. My bad.
Well either way. I prefer the smaller size. I would even prefer a smaller version of the iPhone.
Only thing I want is a nice sharp screen and not some pixelated thing.
You are probably right. The Droid RAZR being thinner is a giant bonus. Hopefully it will maintain some considerable durability.
I have always loved motorola for durability and battery life.
I once washed my phone and ran it through the dryer and it still worked!!! Amazing phones.
Hmmmm.... yes, but my 7 year old mac mini will sell for $150 when I paid only $600 new. I don't know of many Athlon 1.4Ghz systems which will sell for much of anything.
Sure everything eventually ends up on the dung heap, but Apple products do tend to hold their value for several years longer when compared to their PC analogues.
I can't get 4 g in my area anyhow. I think there are many in that same boat.
Obviously you haven't met any Linux/GPL Fansboi... they are simply the worst.
Oh and you haven't met any Microsoft Fanboi.... those people are really over the top.
hehehehhee.
I have never had an iPhone, but I think I will be buying my first two over the holiday. There will be lots of people like me who want a 4S. I don't care that it isn't called the 5.... who cares about the number.
There are lots of people who are under some sort of contract because of buying an iPhone 4. They will all be coming off of their contracts so the iPhone might get a bump from this group. ( I suppose this will be after the holiday). I also know lots of older people who are planning to get iPhones and iPads in the next 6 months or so. Call it the grandma factor. I just don't see apple sales slacking off as you seem to suggest.
Most people are extremely happy with their iPhones. I only know a few folks who tried them and didn't like them much. But the bulk of people become iPhone zombies. I know cause they are everywhere all over the streets of our city .... mindlessly checking things ....living a life tethered largely to their tiny device etc.
Siri no doubt will have lots of kinks, but the power of it will be great by the time it hits the 4-5 generation of the technology. I remember back when I first heard a computer voice come out of my Atari.... sounded cool, but it was rather primitive sounding and not useful really. Now computer generated voices are a mainstay of parts of our society. These technologies take time to evolve to utility.
Iphone sales will continue to increase as will Android based phones. There is a wide open non-saturated smartphone market so each quarter the top phone makers numbers will continue to be strong and mostly record breaking until the market is swamped. Android based phones will outpace Apple as they have been for quite some time, but as past results seem to indicate, Apple should rake in the bulk of the profits. While android makers are left sifting through the scaps. Apple seems to be adept at monetizing their stuff.
iPhone sales will be driven by older iphone owners coming off of contract, old ladies, young people who just want an iPhone cause their friends have one, new customers like myself. I would predict that Apple will sell somewhere north of 20 million iphones in the quarter. Androids will sell more than 50 million.
Apple will take 70% of the entire markets profits. Their stock will rise. People will start thinking about the iPhone 5 after the holiday and how long it will take them to get the next one.
As I said before.... hardware matters little. What matters is the flow of user experience. 4 years from now the 4 S will and Samsungs current offering will be rather dated. Most of what we now view as cutting edge will be beatup junk going to be disposed of. Hardware evolves rather rapidly. Each platform leapfrogs the other every new hardware release.
How do these devices transform how our lives ? These transformations are largely due to software. The true innovation is in software.
Apple does a great job for a large number of people. Some people don't like the way they do it. Luckily there are others who are willing to step up and offer other solutions. That is what is great about the free market. I don't think anyone needs to defend or attack anyone since it is all so useless. Use what you want to use. Use what works for you and transforms your life.
I'm just now sure why people have such emotional investments in for or against arguments about either company.
The phone is just a mechanism for delivery of the real product.
Hardware doesn't matter as long as the experience is fluid and it meets its requirements for about 3 years.
Then you get another phone. I rarely have a phone longer than 2-3 years. They are a disposable technology really.
Same with computers. How many people are actually doing production level work on a machine older than 5 years.
People always act like the hardware is the biggest deal... it isn't. Hardware is just a vehicle for the end user experience and most of these tiny computers are capable of giving a great user experience.
But experience and function come from software and this is where smartphones shine. Luckily, the consumer continues to win as thing progress along. The iPhone of merely 4 years ago is nowhere near as nice as the current one. That same will be true about the phone 4-5 or 6 years from now.
Yep.... if you want a bigger screen get one, but it won't be an iPhone which is fine.
I don't get why everyone always needs a bigger screen.. it is a phone first right?
I can't wait for the new Moto Razr... looks interesting and small, like a phone should be.
Yeah, I concur with you heathen... and who really wants to carry a big cludgy brick around.... not me for one. ( I own neither iPhone or Android) The new Razr seems interesting size wise to me. I used to have a Visor and it was just too big.
It is a phone first after all. If you want a big screen get a 7" tablet.
I don't have an iphone, but most people who have one continue to do so because of how well it works for them. Marketing only makes you buy it, once you own an iPhone why does one keep using it and why does one buy another one? Certainly that isn't marketing. That is addiction. In my humble observation iPhones become an addiction for most humans, but a socially acceptable one it seems.
Personally, I don't think apple has to do much marketing for the iPhone. The buzz and hype are worth 4-5 times the cost of actual marketing.
One of the things I don't want on my phone is a big screen. I used to carry a handspring visor with springboard phone around for about 3 years. Big Screen, Big phone. Not really for me. One thing I don't want is for them to upsize the iphone so I can carry some big brick in my hand.