Care to link something that says hydrogen produced in the refining process is then sold? The only reference to hydrogen byproduct of oil refining I could find while googling was that the hydrogen is reused in additional refining of other stuff. ( http://www.shell-lubricants.com/learningcenter/ref ining.html )
Why would a crater the size of Providence be a problem? There are areas of the US where you could blow a crater the size of the whole state of RI and nobody would mind.
Indeed, the glass was manufactured that way; I seem to recall finding out that it was done purposely, though, rather than accidentally. I don't remember what the reasoning was for doing that.
Sometimes, it was installed thick-end up; that would definately help one to realise that glass is no more liquid than one expects it to be.
FWIW, I'd call glass a solid. You have to heat it before it will take the shape of it's container; at comfortable temperatures, it will shatter before squeezing into a container. Once it shatters, no amount of waiting for it to flow will cause it to become one mass of glass again, it will stay in shards until it is heated hot enough to liquify. But, IANA glass physics expert...
> (note...I dunno about these polaroid gadgets...)
You mean, the disposable Polaroids? I took one apart, it takes a regular Polaroid film cartridge [I forget which type], but it seems that they don't sell _that_ type of cartridge anymore, they've obsoleted it.
I bet I could still find it somewhere, cheaply. Then, the disposable camera can easily be re-used.
At the company I work for, I had replaced a Lotus cc:Mail server running on NT with Linux+Sendmail. The Linux email server supports our 100 users or so on a 486sx; the NT box required a high-end pentium system.
The NT box required a reboot every couple days, and had major problems requiring my boss and myself to spend hours every week trying to bring it back up after it stopped working for one reason or another.
Now, a couple years after ridding ourselves of that awful heap of crap, our corporate parent company has decided that all the child companies should be homogenous. They run Exchange.
We have resisted, so far, and will continue to resist. Why? Because they have many thousands of dollars worth of email server that falls to it's knees while propogating thousands of.vbs-worm-infested per minute; our 486 runs Sendmail and Inflex (search for Inflex on freshmeat), and blocks all those messages.
Initially, whenever they bombarded us with thousands of vbs messages per minute, our 486sx would also be brought to it's knees by the load of scanning and refusing so many. Then, because the software we use to scan (Inflex) is in the form of a shell script, I was able to write 4 lines of code that throttle it back.
Here's the cool thing: It was trivial to add a feature that greatly enhanced our mail server, giving it the capability to deal with the problems that result from the parent company's server NOT being able to deal with their own problems.
I have added all sorts of features to this script. I am not a programmer, yet, I can add features to filter mail any way I want, or to do just about anything else I want with it.
Meanwhile, there are people getting paid six digits to keep these Exchange servers running; and I have a much better server running Sendmail that only requires cheap skills and cheaper hardware.
I'm probably going to quit if they make me run an Exchange server.
You know, the funny thing is I still haven't downloaded Napster. Period. I don't know why. Just haven't bothered. I don't maintain to large of an MP3 collection, namely because my tastes conflict with those of most people. I bet if I did a search for "Benny Goodman" I'd be more likely to find "Britney Spears". I'm not even kidding.
I did search for good old Benny on a friends Napster once a while ago and found about two dozen, which was more then I expected. But I didn't need any of them. I do fine with my CD collection the way it is.
You'd be suprised the esoteric and obscure stuff you find on Napster. I just searched on Benny Goodman and got 100 hits, which is all my broken napster client will allow; I'm sure it would have been two or three times as many, including some stuff you haven't got already, or even better...stuff you have listened to so much that your cd is scratched and won't make a clean rip and plays badly...
This is ludicrous. Businesses do not have any intrinsic or legal right to make money. If customers are "destroying your business model" then your business model sucks and deserves to fail.
Interestingly, though, this was Napster's defense against the preliminary injunction. Their argument boiled down to, "If our music service is cut-off we will have to layoff employees and go out of business" (how they make money off people downloading music is anybody's guess, though).
Why do you have a double standard? Why do you think it is OK for Napster to make this argument, but not for the record companies to make it?
Didn't you read the comment you were replying to? If the _CUSTOMER_ is destroying your business model, then your business model sucks and deserves to fail. Napster's argument was that somebody other than the CUSTOMER was trying to destroy their business model.
Quite the opposite - old page, new idea. The page looks quite similar to freshmeat, except the ugly colors; the idea is to get people to work on projects that have been abandoned. Freshmeat just shows you what projects exist.
> Ho-Lee-Cow said: > In space, no one can hear you moo.
That's got to be one of the best taglines I've ever seen. I guess that sort of thing is to be expected from someone whose handle is phonetically the same as mine (The Holy Cow, Ho-Lee-Cow) tho...
Does anyone remember Construx? The seem to have disappeared from the face of the earth..they used to be more fun than Legos, you could build bigger things easier and such...
...does anyone remember an old show on The Comedy Channel, which seriously made fun of and reviewed awfully gross and sick movies, and showed clips? I remember they once showed clips of a movie where a guy is pissing through a hole in a fence, and there's a dude sleeping on the other side, who promptly rips the dick off the pissing guy, and then he plays keep-away with a bunch of other people, and they show close-ups of the dick flying through the air...
If the car depreciates faster than you can pay for it, there are generally three reasons why it could be happening:
1. You bought too expensive of a car, and took out a too-long loan.
2. That model depreciates extra fast (models that most people like don't seem to do this as badly; it's unpopular models that depreciate very quickly, often.)
3. You put on zillions of miles every month, like myself. In this case, leasing would cost you much, much more than buying, and in the end, you not only wouldn't have a car worth money, but you wouldn't even have transportation.
Of course, sooner or later, the value levels off somewhat, while what you owe continues to drop at the same speed as before. I owe about $5000 on my car; and it's currently worth about the same. Already I'm catching up - 6 or 8 months ago, I owed a lot more than it was worth. When I'm done paying it off, hopefully in less than a year if I can, it will still be worth about $3500 or $4000.
Buying still makes sense, even for lower-mileage drivers as much as high-milage drivers; such drivers can buy a car with a long warranty, and be assured of a running car without having to pour horrid amounts of money into repairing it. Think about it - if you don't put on lots of miles, and you buy a car with a 6 or 10 year warranty, then you pay it off in 4 or 5 years...for the next 5 years, you can have a warrantied car that will run and pass inspection, and not have to pay every month for it! If you lease, when that's done, you can then buy the used car that you've been driving for a highish price, or you can start the monthly payment cycle all over again...
I would rather sell my house and move than try to break out of a 6 year lease. One can sell just as easily during or after a mortgage, and it doesn't hurt.
Same goes for the car. From what I understand about leasing, you're often stuck with strong penalties if you try to break out of the lease early...whereas, if you are paying on a loan for the car, you can just sell it. Of course, if you're like me and you put on miles so fast as to make the car devaluate faster than you can pay off the loan, then you're damned if you do and damned if you don't, and should just buy an old Chevy and learn to fix it yourself.;)
How does this tie in to computers? Personally, I think that it's not one imitating the other, but rather, what happens in the tech world is happening somewhat paralell to what's happing elsewhere. Of course, the main difference being that in the tech world, laws are being made that leave no choice; elsewhere, much of this is just a choice between buying an item or buying time of that item.
That is, the argument that goes "Any DDOS attacker worth his beans would be using innocent people's machines to attack, anyway", although I generally agree with it, has this one hole: Those machines are ALREADY cracked, their network pipe is ALREADY saturated with the attack they're unknowingly doing to you, so they're ALREADY down! You attacking back just ensures that they FIND OUT that they were having problems, no? Personally, if my system was cracked and being used to attack someone, I'd want my system downed right away, even if it had to be done by a counterattack directed at me!
That said, I'm guessing that innocent third-parties getting attacked from both sides won't care who's right and who's wrong, they'll sue whoever they can trace easier - and that will be the retaliating sysadmin.
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Care to link something that says hydrogen produced in the refining process is then sold? The only reference to hydrogen byproduct of oil refining I could find while googling was that the hydrogen is reused in additional refining of other stuff.f ining.html )
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Why would a crater the size of Providence be a problem? There are areas of the US where you could blow a crater the size of the whole state of RI and nobody would mind.
Indeed, the glass was manufactured that way; I seem to recall finding out that it was done purposely, though, rather than accidentally. I don't remember what the reasoning was for doing that.
Sometimes, it was installed thick-end up; that would definately help one to realise that glass is no more liquid than one expects it to be.
FWIW, I'd call glass a solid. You have to heat it before it will take the shape of it's container; at comfortable temperatures, it will shatter before squeezing into a container. Once it shatters, no amount of waiting for it to flow will cause it to become one mass of glass again, it will stay in shards until it is heated hot enough to liquify. But, IANA glass physics expert...
> (note...I dunno about these polaroid gadgets...)
You mean, the disposable Polaroids? I took one apart, it takes a regular Polaroid film cartridge [I forget which type], but it seems that they don't sell _that_ type of cartridge anymore, they've obsoleted it.
I bet I could still find it somewhere, cheaply. Then, the disposable camera can easily be re-used.
Here's an example:
.vbs-worm-infested per minute; our 486 runs Sendmail and Inflex (search for Inflex on freshmeat), and blocks all those messages.
At the company I work for, I had replaced a Lotus cc:Mail server running on NT with Linux+Sendmail. The Linux email server supports our 100 users or so on a 486sx; the NT box required a high-end pentium system.
The NT box required a reboot every couple days, and had major problems requiring my boss and myself to spend hours every week trying to bring it back up after it stopped working for one reason or another.
Now, a couple years after ridding ourselves of that awful heap of crap, our corporate parent company has decided that all the child companies should be homogenous. They run Exchange.
We have resisted, so far, and will continue to resist. Why? Because they have many thousands of dollars worth of email server that falls to it's knees while propogating thousands of
Initially, whenever they bombarded us with thousands of vbs messages per minute, our 486sx would also be brought to it's knees by the load of scanning and refusing so many. Then, because the software we use to scan (Inflex) is in the form of a shell script, I was able to write 4 lines of code that throttle it back.
Here's the cool thing: It was trivial to add a feature that greatly enhanced our mail server, giving it the capability to deal with the problems that result from the parent company's server NOT being able to deal with their own problems.
I have added all sorts of features to this script. I am not a programmer, yet, I can add features to filter mail any way I want, or to do just about anything else I want with it.
Meanwhile, there are people getting paid six digits to keep these Exchange servers running; and I have a much better server running Sendmail that only requires cheap skills and cheaper hardware.
I'm probably going to quit if they make me run an Exchange server.
I did search for good old Benny on a friends Napster once a while ago and found about two dozen, which was more then I expected. But I didn't need any of them. I do fine with my CD collection the way it is.
You'd be suprised the esoteric and obscure stuff you find on Napster. I just searched on Benny Goodman and got 100 hits, which is all my broken napster client will allow; I'm sure it would have been two or three times as many, including some stuff you haven't got already, or even better...stuff you have listened to so much that your cd is scratched and won't make a clean rip and plays badly...
Interestingly, though, this was Napster's defense against the preliminary injunction. Their argument boiled down to, "If our music service is cut-off we will have to layoff employees and go out of business" (how they make money off people downloading music is anybody's guess, though).
Why do you have a double standard? Why do you think it is OK for Napster to make this argument, but not for the record companies to make it?
Didn't you read the comment you were replying to? If the _CUSTOMER_ is destroying your business model, then your business model sucks and deserves to fail. Napster's argument was that somebody other than the CUSTOMER was trying to destroy their business model.
Quite the opposite - old page, new idea. The page looks quite similar to freshmeat, except the ugly colors; the idea is to get people to work on projects that have been abandoned. Freshmeat just shows you what projects exist.
> Ho-Lee-Cow said:
> In space, no one can hear you moo.
That's got to be one of the best taglines I've ever seen. I guess that sort of thing is to be expected from someone whose handle is phonetically the same as mine (The Holy Cow, Ho-Lee-Cow) tho...
Does anyone remember Construx? The seem to have disappeared from the face of the earth..they used to be more fun than Legos, you could build bigger things easier and such...
A big monolith made out of black legos...
> A self replicating lego factory!
Von Neuman brand Legos.
Recursive acronym: LEGO:
LEGO's Expanding Gigantically Ominously
...does anyone remember an old show on The Comedy Channel, which seriously made fun of and reviewed awfully gross and sick movies, and showed clips? I remember they once showed clips of a movie where a guy is pissing through a hole in a fence, and there's a dude sleeping on the other side, who promptly rips the dick off the pissing guy, and then he plays keep-away with a bunch of other people, and they show close-ups of the dick flying through the air...
What was that show called?
"Plus, those *pictures*! I find it difficult to believe that any human looks that goofy."
;)
Hah! You haven't met my family. I have people in my family who have the same goofy features as those people (Note: The non-goofy features differ.
If the car depreciates faster than you can pay for it, there are generally three reasons why it could be happening:
1. You bought too expensive of a car, and took out a too-long loan.
2. That model depreciates extra fast (models that most people like don't seem to do this as badly; it's unpopular models that depreciate very quickly, often.)
3. You put on zillions of miles every month, like myself. In this case, leasing would cost you much, much more than buying, and in the end, you not only wouldn't have a car worth money, but you wouldn't even have transportation.
Of course, sooner or later, the value levels off somewhat, while what you owe continues to drop at the same speed as before. I owe about $5000 on my car; and it's currently worth about the same. Already I'm catching up - 6 or 8 months ago, I owed a lot more than it was worth. When I'm done paying it off, hopefully in less than a year if I can, it will still be worth about $3500 or $4000.
Buying still makes sense, even for lower-mileage drivers as much as high-milage drivers; such drivers can buy a car with a long warranty, and be assured of a running car without having to pour horrid amounts of money into repairing it. Think about it - if you don't put on lots of miles, and you buy a car with a 6 or 10 year warranty, then you pay it off in 4 or 5 years...for the next 5 years, you can have a warrantied car that will run and pass inspection, and not have to pay every month for it! If you lease, when that's done, you can then buy the used car that you've been driving for a highish price, or you can start the monthly payment cycle all over again...
I would rather sell my house and move than try to break out of a 6 year lease. One can sell just as easily during or after a mortgage, and it doesn't hurt.
;)
Same goes for the car. From what I understand about leasing, you're often stuck with strong penalties if you try to break out of the lease early...whereas, if you are paying on a loan for the car, you can just sell it. Of course, if you're like me and you put on miles so fast as to make the car devaluate faster than you can pay off the loan, then you're damned if you do and damned if you don't, and should just buy an old Chevy and learn to fix it yourself.
How does this tie in to computers? Personally, I think that it's not one imitating the other, but rather, what happens in the tech world is happening somewhat paralell to what's happing elsewhere. Of course, the main difference being that in the tech world, laws are being made that leave no choice; elsewhere, much of this is just a choice between buying an item or buying time of that item.
...so why not at least stop the attack short?
That is, the argument that goes "Any DDOS attacker worth his beans would be using innocent people's machines to attack, anyway", although I generally agree with it, has this one hole: Those machines are ALREADY cracked, their network pipe is ALREADY saturated with the attack they're unknowingly doing to you, so they're ALREADY down! You attacking back just ensures that they FIND OUT that they were having problems, no? Personally, if my system was cracked and being used to attack someone, I'd want my system downed right away, even if it had to be done by a counterattack directed at me!
That said, I'm guessing that innocent third-parties getting attacked from both sides won't care who's right and who's wrong, they'll sue whoever they can trace easier - and that will be the retaliating sysadmin.
m00f? y0u pirated my catchphrase!
You could also firewall out connections to/from ads.doubleclick.net and a couple others, and lose 90% of the banners you see.
This should be submitted to http://www.segfault.org
Even before you could get papers online, computer majors could download source online...
You mean, NetBSD?