I could be wrong on this, but isn't the cache OFF-DIE for the Athlon?? or maybe i'm just really confused. (has been known to happen;).. Although that would make sense as right now i can't find a motherboard that says how much cache it has on it... well then, i wait for the 2MB cache version;)
Also, you're right, i really don't need ata-66 or agp 4x.. what i'm waiting for is multi-processor support. (and the money to afford it.)
Not necessaerily, although i do take my hat of to the Developers of the ARM.. quite a nice CPU from what I've read but i've never had the chance to work with it.
What I was talking about was multi-threaded hardware such as Tera (www.tera.com) is working on. Very good Integer performance, almost linearly scalable. As for floating point i dont know that much. But it's probably whats going to be the "next big thing" in supercomputers that will filter it's way down to the micros...
PianoMan -- Still waiting to invent the Vector Co-Processor.;)
Everyone already knew this. It's been known that the Athlon scales *VERY* beautifully, and that once the Dresden Fab30 comes online, they'll easily ramp up to 1Ghz.. it's why Intel is scrambling. Kryotech has been saying they'll sell thier SuperG 1Ghz (cooled) Athlon by december, and Fab30 is due to be online by the first week in 2000. So where's the news?
Now, alls AMD needs to do is make a better CHIPSET (or VIA, whichever comes first), one that supports SMP and more than 512k cache. I'm a supercomputer/scientific researcher. And i write tight code no matter how fast the processor goes. What do I see in my future? Clusters of Athlons and Alpha's for now, and multi-threaded hardware beyond that. Funny, unless EPIC really surprises me, Intel is nowhere in my future... hmmm..
--ps, i still think AMD should buy the Alpha and it's designers.
Isn't this the oldest trick in the computer (any) industry? when a competitor has a new/better product, start say that you have a "better" product just "right around the corner".. Seems to me IBM used to do this back in the 50's/60's to keep people from buying CDC machines... I remember seeing some sort of refecernce to this chip in one of the AnandTech/Aces/one of them when they were taling about a plant visit. again, we onl heard about this AFTER the athlon came out and put Intel to shame. Sorry, my next machine's either an Alpha or an Athlon. (here's a thought... who out here thinks AMD shoulc buy the Alpha division from Compaq (and all the designers)???... instant 64-bit, established as the fastest processor in the world, and proven RISC design as opposed to questionable EPIC...and the Alpha gets the promotion in the market it deserves and the lastest FABs... hmmmm.. food for thought.)
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I could be wrong on this, but isn't the cache OFF-DIE for the Athlon?? or maybe i'm just really confused. (has been known to happen ;).. Although that would make sense as right now i can't find a motherboard that says how much cache it has on it... well then, i wait for the 2MB cache version ;)
;-)
Also, you're right, i really don't need ata-66 or agp 4x.. what i'm waiting for is multi-processor support. (and the money to afford it.)
someone want to hire me?
PM.
Not necessaerily, although i do take my hat of to the Developers of the ARM.. quite a nice CPU from what I've read but i've never had the chance to work with it.
;)
What I was talking about was multi-threaded hardware such as Tera (www.tera.com) is working
on. Very good Integer performance, almost linearly scalable. As for floating point i dont know that much. But it's probably whats going to be the "next big thing" in supercomputers that will filter it's way down to the micros...
PianoMan -- Still waiting to invent the Vector Co-Processor.
Everyone already knew this. It's been known that
the Athlon scales *VERY* beautifully, and that once the Dresden Fab30 comes online, they'll easily ramp up to 1Ghz.. it's why Intel is scrambling. Kryotech has been saying they'll sell thier SuperG 1Ghz (cooled) Athlon by december, and Fab30 is due to be online by the first week in 2000. So where's the news?
Now, alls AMD needs to do is make a better CHIPSET (or VIA, whichever comes first), one that supports SMP and more than 512k cache. I'm a supercomputer/scientific researcher. And i write tight code no matter how fast the processor goes.
What do I see in my future? Clusters of Athlons and Alpha's for now, and multi-threaded hardware beyond that. Funny, unless EPIC really surprises me, Intel is nowhere in my future... hmmm..
--ps, i still think AMD should buy the Alpha and it's designers.
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Isn't this the oldest trick in the computer (any) industry? when a competitor has a new/better product, start say that you have a "better" product just "right around the corner".. Seems to me IBM used to do this back in the 50's/60's to keep people from buying CDC machines... I remember seeing some sort of refecernce to this chip in one of the AnandTech/Aces/one of them when they were taling about a plant visit. again, we onl heard about this AFTER the athlon came out and put Intel to shame. Sorry, my next machine's either an Alpha or an Athlon. (here's a thought... who out here thinks AMD shoulc buy the Alpha division from Compaq (and all the designers)???... instant 64-bit, established as the fastest processor in the world, and proven RISC design as opposed to questionable EPIC...and the Alpha gets the promotion in the market it deserves and the lastest FABs... hmmmm.. food for thought.)