Well, it's terribly difficult to agree with the basic arguments in this essay. And, I am greatly surprised that Katz made it through this essay about propery and ownership and society without even mentioning communism. Hell, he didn't even mention Hobbesian or Lockean states of nature. Sheesh. I hate to say it, but no one is forcing anybody to do business on the net. If some smarmy Congressional aide says things like "In your writings on the Digital Millenium Copyright Act earlier this week," e-mailed a Congressional aide, "you are obscuring the fact that the Internet is creating a generation of culture and content pirates. They steal other peoples ideas, and they don't pay for them, and they take no moral responsibility for that. People like you are celebrating and enabling and helping raise a culture of thievery that is not only institutionalized but which considers itself morally superior. We are a nation of laws and you seem to celebrate a nation of law-breakers." The office of a Congressperson DARES to accuse some of acting morally superior??!! What the hell are they smoking??!! I guess they probably think that things like the GPL promote piracy, too. Or maybe open source cooperation institutionalizes thievery and law-breaking? Since the internet was created by and is largely controlled and maintained by people like us, it seems to me that we are entitled to shape it as we please, or to allow it to shape itself according to the whim of the internet population. Of course the government and big business are pissed off. We cut them off where it hurts most. We are trying to keep the internet largely free for all and we don't want damnable laws. Take away ridiculous costs and government regulation and you really piss off the old guard. So the internet masters will become, and to a reasonable extent already are, the new guard. At least until somebody with a better idea cuts us out of power in our electronic world.
I don't think that the SecureID system uses anything special on the client side. The authentication it uses is done entirely on the server side. Any PPP which uses clear text authentication should be able to be authenticated if the server is set for clear text. As far as encrypted authentication, I don't really know what SecurID uses. Basically, you should be able to set up a PPP which sends your userid and SecureID to the dialin box doing the authentication. You might want to script it so that you get a field to put the time-decay token into, but that should really be about it. I don't know what you are using as far as network type goes, but you should at least be able to authenicate to the dialin box. Hope this helps. If you are using something like VPN, it might use the IPSEC stuff. I have some Linux config info for that. If you are interested, post a reply and I'll pass that info along.
I'm glad to see this. I use Linksys products exclusively, and recommend them strongly to my customers. However, I'm wondering if this might mean better driver support for the LNE100TX (10/100 PCI Autosensor card). There have been several revisions of the Tulip driver, and each one seems to have its own compatibility hangups. The difference in Version 1 and Version 2 of the 10/100 card required a rewrite on the driver, which really sucked. Mayber somebody will get it through their head that Linksys needs some standardization in their Linux support. But all in all, I really like Linksys products. They need to actually put a driver and some better support on their site, but at least they mention Linux in their support site, which is more than I can say for many companies. Maybe this will also pave the way for other Linux distros to partner up with Linksys, and maybe work on some real support for their products.
Knowledge/awareness does not imply understanding. If you take your average schmuck, give him a detailed topo map and a compass, and drop in the middle of a forest, chances are he will not be able to use the knowledge (the map) because he does not understand what the hell it's all about. Same seems to me to be the case with the human genome. Yeah, we may have all X billion mappings, but what good are they if we don't have the understanding to go with them? True, understanding will follow as the knowledge set becomes complete, but I would posit that the knowledge set itself is not the true accomplishment. Rather, the understanding that we may eventually come into will be the real achievement. Don't get me wrong, mappping the genome is an important first step, but it is NOT the most important step. If someone gave us a book written in the previously unknown Linear K alphabet, even if the book contained all the knowledge of the universe, it would be utterly useless until we learned to understand what the words said. The same is true of the genome project at this stage. Yeah, we can read a (relatively) few words of ATCG, but our understanding isn't all there yet. Sorry to be a party pooper, Mr. Katz, but I will hold my celebration until I feel it is warranted.
Well, for starters, this guy is obviously speaking in such vague generalities that we can neither prove nor disprove his vision of the future. That's like what soothsayers, fortune tellers, psychics, etc. do. They make vague predictions that can be interpreted so widely that they always seem to be right. Yeah, there will be bear markets in the future. There will also be bull markets. There will be depressions, recessions, prosperity, and maybe even some more irrational exuberance for good measure. That's the way of market cycles. Will we ever gain complete control of the market? I doubt it, but we probably will come to understand more than we do now. Just remember, for one question we answer, multiple new questions will be posed which seem even more impossible to fathom. Never trust anyone who claims they can see the future and have all the answers. I prefer to function as intelligently as I can in the present as well as the future, and I at least know enough to state that I don't know it all. IMHO, this guy is a fraud.
Hmmm...maybe you've noticed that our planet isn't exactly empty. You know, those six billion or so multi-billion celled organisms called humans that can't even feed themselves. Hey, if we want to kill ourselves off, that's our business. But it is not our business to kill off what might the only other known indigenous life in the solar system, galaxy, etc. Maybe one day Europa will be colonized by humans. If it's got an ocean, that's a hell of a start. Just think back to your days swimming in the primordial ooze. If you can't remember your little flagellum, maybe you should take a dip in Europa's ocean for a refresher course.
It would not be terribly challenging from the IT perspective to set up a schedule whereby students could use Napster, voice over IP, etc. only at certain times of the day. Times when usage is generally low anyway. Like 10 pm to 6 am. Most college students are awake at those hours anyway, and most faculty and other university employees or daytime users would not be using campus bandwidth at that time. Having recently matriculated, I can clearly recall our T1 (we were a small school) being grossly choked out during the day, but at 3am I could suck up all the bandwidth I ever wanted. It really wouldn't be all that tough to set up a scheme whereby certain subnets, such as dorms, were limited during the day, and opened up at night. In any regard, anything is better than censorship (aka net serfdom).
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Long ago, in a land far, far away, there lived a tribe of users known as the FUDs. These users, whose every action was an attempt to thwart freedom, justice, prosperity, and enjoyment, found themselves faced with a great enemy. This enemy, known only by an acronym, DeCSS, was a might warrior of freedom and enjoyment. Every path this warrior traveled, every battle that was fought, the wicked forces of FUD encryption found themselves sorely beaten, their mangled hides decrypted and left open to all sorts of users. Now, the high FUD counsel, including the Lord FUD himself, were determined to destroy the acronym at any cost. They took DeCSS to court, but could not bind him. They rallied all the publicity the MPAA could muster, but everywhere, DeCSS was still crushing the dark forces of encryption with his might sword of reverse engineering. Then, lo and behold, a second DeCSS was born, just as mighty as the first. Together, the dual-DeCSS warriors multithreaded their way through the labrynth of deception thrown up by the mighty mages of the FUDs. As they slowly began to win, finding their way on to Linux boxes throughout the land, the dark Lord FUD pulled his ace in the hole, casting new waves of fear throughout the land of the Free Users. Tune in next week to find out what whether the might DeCSS warriors could overcome the 384 bit encryption spell cast by Lord FUD....
Dissociated Press - Dateline February 17, 2000. A study released today by the National Organization of Lettuce Investigation and Forensic Examination (NOLIFE) revealed a shocking connection between lettuce consumption and time spent with families. The study, which has been fully endorsed by both the ASPCA and PETA as not harmful to Alaskan sea horses, concluded that people who eat lettuce tend to spend more time with their families than surfing the net, watching tv, exercising, etc. Not surprisingly, family members who did not consume lettuce, that is, they didn't take the time to eat their salads, spent up to 30% less time at the table than their herbivorous relatives. This news, which comes as a stunning and bold response to the recent studies which claim that dogs and the internet are bad for friends and families, promises to bind Americans together at entirely new levels. The Lettuce Enthusiastists of America Foundation (LEAF) has expressed its complete support for the study and promises to launch a multimillion dollar ad campaign promoting their leafy vegetable friend. Unfortunately, some parties have expressed concern with the commercials, stating that time spent watching them on TV will take away from the family regained by eating lettuce in the first place. What the future of family relations will be after this startling salad toss study is uncertain. As for this reporter, I'll take a side of crutons with my family.
Well, yes, you do have to take the good with the bad. That is often the case in life. But you must also remember that deeply linked with the anger that the flamers toss about is the zeal, vigor, and intensity that has driven the Linux community and continues to do so. I cannot advocate some politically correct, feel good, toned-down, wimpy attitudes just for the sake of being nice. I'd rather see a thousand flamers than one goody2shoes trying to make people feel all nice and flowery and fresh. Anger counseling? No thanks. I'd rather see John Rocker call a yankee a damnyankee a thousand times over than hear one little person cry about getting flamed. Everybody gets flamed sometimes. Just be big enough to take your lumps and give a few back.
Umm, thanks for the nice article. Did you write this to suck up to some college lit professor? Net porn is freedom of speech/expression. No, no. It is offensive and morally reprehensible. Don't you step on my rights, you Nazi. I'm trying to protect the children from that filth. No, you're trying to act like Big Brother. The children. Doesn't anybody care about the children? What about my right to look at a naked man/woman? Okay, there you have it folks. The same canned arguments on either side. Now, what I really want to see is a productive discussion of the issue that doesn't get tangled up in some trite article about how library censorship can be understood through the depths of George Bernard Shaw's writing.
I agree, except with # 7. Yes, the Win 9x line will have another revision, the one currently sitting somewhere beyond Beta 2. But, no, it will NOT be the last in that godforsaken line of development. There is already a successor to the OS currently codenamed Millenium. The next one is nowhere near beta, and is currently known as Neptune. I don't know about you, but I am offended that they would disgrace a planetary name in that fashion.
How about Leo? Since chameleon essentially means ground lion, and since SuSE (my preferred distro) was just named best distro, and you want something that connotes the best, what name could be more perfect? The king of beasts, the king of distros, Leo, the royal chameleon.
Netscape, AOL, Time-Warner, etc.
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Well, we all know that Netscape is controlled by the beasts of AOL. Can somebody respectable (like maybe RedHat, Caldera, etc) please buy Netscape away from AOL/Time-Warner ? Pretty please? And yes, thank you Mr. Katz, we did already know that Steve Case wants to be the next Bill Gates. Except that he might be even more dictatorial and more maniacal that Slick Willy of Redmond.
Yes, I too prefer SuSE. And yes, the YaST2 installer is awful. Who wants to do an install and not be able to select packages. Also, I did the default install and YaST2 didn't even install the kernel source. Lame. But I was able to fix it all with YaST 1.03. The Corel Linux does not have all types of video support it should. I did get it working on my Toshiba 2060CDS laptop, but I still haven't gotten the sound card working. Plus, some of the things it does by default are not very good. If there is one big lesson that the windows install should teach all Linux distros doing gui installs, it is that the expert mode for install needs to be VERY customizable. Yeah, if you want a *recommended* default install, that's fine for newbies and people who don't care. But I want to be able to configure an install so that I don't have to go back and spend half a day fixing what the install did wrong or undoing the stuff I don't want. I was also unhappy that the Word Perfect 8 for Linux would not install correctly on the Corel distro. I know that the full Corel includes WP8, but I should be able to do the install from the WP8 cd I have regardless. Let's hope that Corel can get their act together, because I think they can be a hugely positive force in the future.
It sounds like this might be a good idea. Anything we as the open source community can do to keep the government and control out of our business is generally a positive step. It does bring to light some rather interesting questions about public domain databases. Even private ones under a GPL (DGPL) would make an interesting study. Having worked for a company that did database work for Linux, it would certainly present an interesting case as to how we would charge for our databases.
Re:AMD Disadvantage, You might want to know
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AMD is actually planning a move away from the tired x86 architecture. The Sledgehammer chip that is in R & D right now is supposed to be based on a better architecture. I am assuming (knowing full well the potential consequences of assuming) that there will be backward compatibility. In any regard, the Intel might not mean as much in a few years, particularly after Itanium or Merced or whatever it is goes kerplunk.
Wouldn't it all be easier if he were at some *meaningful* position, not some lax government job? You know, a job where his talents might be actually used.
Do you foresee any concrete relationships between members of Linux-Unix world and the Mac folks? Although Linux can run on the G3 and G4 and other Macs, it would be kinda nice to see Apple joining other big players like IBM and Compaq and supporting Linux. (Many Applications Crash, If Not The Operating System Hangs)
You and I all know that if Herr Clinton goes to an airport, he ain't gonna have to go through one of these. But why not? I think that these scanners should be hooked up at Congress, the White House, and the Supreme Court so that we can see our *leaders* for what they really are. A simple web site which carried feeds from the government scans could give every American a sense that their government was secure. Hey, if Strom Thurmond or Janet El Reno are packing heat, don't you want to know about it?
Well, it's terribly difficult to agree with the basic arguments in this essay. And, I am greatly surprised that Katz made it through this essay about propery and ownership and society without even mentioning communism. Hell, he didn't even mention Hobbesian or Lockean states of nature. Sheesh. I hate to say it, but no one is forcing anybody to do business on the net. If some smarmy Congressional aide says things like "In your writings on the Digital Millenium Copyright Act earlier this week," e-mailed a Congressional aide, "you are obscuring the fact that the Internet is creating a generation of culture and content pirates. They steal other peoples ideas, and they don't pay for them, and they take no moral responsibility for that. People like you are celebrating and enabling and helping raise a culture of thievery that is not only institutionalized but which considers itself morally superior. We are a nation of laws and you seem to celebrate a nation of law-breakers." The office of a Congressperson DARES to accuse some of acting morally superior??!! What the hell are they smoking??!! I guess they probably think that things like the GPL promote piracy, too. Or maybe open source cooperation institutionalizes thievery and law-breaking? Since the internet was created by and is largely controlled and maintained by people like us, it seems to me that we are entitled to shape it as we please, or to allow it to shape itself according to the whim of the internet population. Of course the government and big business are pissed off. We cut them off where it hurts most. We are trying to keep the internet largely free for all and we don't want damnable laws. Take away ridiculous costs and government regulation and you really piss off the old guard. So the internet masters will become, and to a reasonable extent already are, the new guard. At least until somebody with a better idea cuts us out of power in our electronic world.
I don't think that the SecureID system uses anything special on the client side. The authentication it uses is done entirely on the server side. Any PPP which uses clear text authentication should be able to be authenticated if the server is set for clear text. As far as encrypted authentication, I don't really know what SecurID uses. Basically, you should be able to set up a PPP which sends your userid and SecureID to the dialin box doing the authentication. You might want to script it so that you get a field to put the time-decay token into, but that should really be about it. I don't know what you are using as far as network type goes, but you should at least be able to authenicate to the dialin box. Hope this helps. If you are using something like VPN, it might use the IPSEC stuff. I have some Linux config info for that. If you are interested, post a reply and I'll pass that info along.
I'm glad to see this. I use Linksys products exclusively, and recommend them strongly to my customers. However, I'm wondering if this might mean better driver support for the LNE100TX (10/100 PCI Autosensor card). There have been several revisions of the Tulip driver, and each one seems to have its own compatibility hangups. The difference in Version 1 and Version 2 of the 10/100 card required a rewrite on the driver, which really sucked. Mayber somebody will get it through their head that Linksys needs some standardization in their Linux support. But all in all, I really like Linksys products. They need to actually put a driver and some better support on their site, but at least they mention Linux in their support site, which is more than I can say for many companies. Maybe this will also pave the way for other Linux distros to partner up with Linksys, and maybe work on some real support for their products.
Knowledge/awareness does not imply understanding. If you take your average schmuck, give him a detailed topo map and a compass, and drop in the middle of a forest, chances are he will not be able to use the knowledge (the map) because he does not understand what the hell it's all about. Same seems to me to be the case with the human genome. Yeah, we may have all X billion mappings, but what good are they if we don't have the understanding to go with them? True, understanding will follow as the knowledge set becomes complete, but I would posit that the knowledge set itself is not the true accomplishment. Rather, the understanding that we may eventually come into will be the real achievement. Don't get me wrong, mappping the genome is an important first step, but it is NOT the most important step. If someone gave us a book written in the previously unknown Linear K alphabet, even if the book contained all the knowledge of the universe, it would be utterly useless until we learned to understand what the words said. The same is true of the genome project at this stage. Yeah, we can read a (relatively) few words of ATCG, but our understanding isn't all there yet. Sorry to be a party pooper, Mr. Katz, but I will hold my celebration until I feel it is warranted.
Well, for starters, this guy is obviously speaking in such vague generalities that we can neither prove nor disprove his vision of the future. That's like what soothsayers, fortune tellers, psychics, etc. do. They make vague predictions that can be interpreted so widely that they always seem to be right. Yeah, there will be bear markets in the future. There will also be bull markets. There will be depressions, recessions, prosperity, and maybe even some more irrational exuberance for good measure. That's the way of market cycles. Will we ever gain complete control of the market? I doubt it, but we probably will come to understand more than we do now. Just remember, for one question we answer, multiple new questions will be posed which seem even more impossible to fathom. Never trust anyone who claims they can see the future and have all the answers. I prefer to function as intelligently as I can in the present as well as the future, and I at least know enough to state that I don't know it all. IMHO, this guy is a fraud.
Hmmm...maybe you've noticed that our planet isn't exactly empty. You know, those six billion or so multi-billion celled organisms called humans that can't even feed themselves. Hey, if we want to kill ourselves off, that's our business. But it is not our business to kill off what might the only other known indigenous life in the solar system, galaxy, etc. Maybe one day Europa will be colonized by humans. If it's got an ocean, that's a hell of a start. Just think back to your days swimming in the primordial ooze. If you can't remember your little flagellum, maybe you should take a dip in Europa's ocean for a refresher course.
It would not be terribly challenging from the IT perspective to set up a schedule whereby students could use Napster, voice over IP, etc. only at certain times of the day. Times when usage is generally low anyway. Like 10 pm to 6 am. Most college students are awake at those hours anyway, and most faculty and other university employees or daytime users would not be using campus bandwidth at that time. Having recently matriculated, I can clearly recall our T1 (we were a small school) being grossly choked out during the day, but at 3am I could suck up all the bandwidth I ever wanted. It really wouldn't be all that tough to set up a scheme whereby certain subnets, such as dorms, were limited during the day, and opened up at night. In any regard, anything is better than censorship (aka net serfdom).
We want (good) playstation software now.
Long ago, in a land far, far away, there lived a tribe of users known as the FUDs. These users, whose every action was an attempt to thwart freedom, justice, prosperity, and enjoyment, found themselves faced with a great enemy. This enemy, known only by an acronym, DeCSS, was a might warrior of freedom and enjoyment. Every path this warrior traveled, every battle that was fought, the wicked forces of FUD encryption found themselves sorely beaten, their mangled hides decrypted and left open to all sorts of users. Now, the high FUD counsel, including the Lord FUD himself, were determined to destroy the acronym at any cost. They took DeCSS to court, but could not bind him. They rallied all the publicity the MPAA could muster, but everywhere, DeCSS was still crushing the dark forces of encryption with his might sword of reverse engineering. Then, lo and behold, a second DeCSS was born, just as mighty as the first. Together, the dual-DeCSS warriors multithreaded their way through the labrynth of deception thrown up by the mighty mages of the FUDs. As they slowly began to win, finding their way on to Linux boxes throughout the land, the dark Lord FUD pulled his ace in the hole, casting new waves of fear throughout the land of the Free Users. Tune in next week to find out what whether the might DeCSS warriors could overcome the 384 bit encryption spell cast by Lord FUD....
Dissociated Press - Dateline February 17, 2000. A study released today by the National Organization of Lettuce Investigation and Forensic Examination (NOLIFE) revealed a shocking connection between lettuce consumption and time spent with families. The study, which has been fully endorsed by both the ASPCA and PETA as not harmful to Alaskan sea horses, concluded that people who eat lettuce tend to spend more time with their families than surfing the net, watching tv, exercising, etc. Not surprisingly, family members who did not consume lettuce, that is, they didn't take the time to eat their salads, spent up to 30% less time at the table than their herbivorous relatives. This news, which comes as a stunning and bold response to the recent studies which claim that dogs and the internet are bad for friends and families, promises to bind Americans together at entirely new levels. The Lettuce Enthusiastists of America Foundation (LEAF) has expressed its complete support for the study and promises to launch a multimillion dollar ad campaign promoting their leafy vegetable friend. Unfortunately, some parties have expressed concern with the commercials, stating that time spent watching them on TV will take away from the family regained by eating lettuce in the first place. What the future of family relations will be after this startling salad toss study is uncertain. As for this reporter, I'll take a side of crutons with my family.
Jose Ensalada
1000 Island Boulevard
Caesar, Italy
All this after Apple canned the aqua theme?
Well, yes, you do have to take the good with the bad. That is often the case in life. But you must also remember that deeply linked with the anger that the flamers toss about is the zeal, vigor, and intensity that has driven the Linux community and continues to do so. I cannot advocate some politically correct, feel good, toned-down, wimpy attitudes just for the sake of being nice. I'd rather see a thousand flamers than one goody2shoes trying to make people feel all nice and flowery and fresh. Anger counseling? No thanks. I'd rather see John Rocker call a yankee a damnyankee a thousand times over than hear one little person cry about getting flamed. Everybody gets flamed sometimes. Just be big enough to take your lumps and give a few back.
Umm, thanks for the nice article. Did you write this to suck up to some college lit professor? Net porn is freedom of speech/expression. No, no. It is offensive and morally reprehensible. Don't you step on my rights, you Nazi. I'm trying to protect the children from that filth. No, you're trying to act like Big Brother. The children. Doesn't anybody care about the children? What about my right to look at a naked man/woman? Okay, there you have it folks. The same canned arguments on either side. Now, what I really want to see is a productive discussion of the issue that doesn't get tangled up in some trite article about how library censorship can be understood through the depths of George Bernard Shaw's writing.
I agree, except with # 7. Yes, the Win 9x line will have another revision, the one currently sitting somewhere beyond Beta 2. But, no, it will NOT be the last in that godforsaken line of development. There is already a successor to the OS currently codenamed Millenium. The next one is nowhere near beta, and is currently known as Neptune. I don't know about you, but I am offended that they would disgrace a planetary name in that fashion.
Cheerz.
How about Leo? Since chameleon essentially means ground lion, and since SuSE (my preferred distro) was just named best distro, and you want something that connotes the best, what name could be more perfect? The king of beasts, the king of distros, Leo, the royal chameleon.
Who's up for a trip to Norway?
By the power of Grayskull, I command you to ZARK OFF!!!
is still a rose....
A wolf in sheep's clothing.....
is still a wolf...
Well, we all know that Netscape is controlled by the beasts of AOL. Can somebody respectable (like maybe RedHat, Caldera, etc) please buy Netscape away from AOL/Time-Warner ? Pretty please? And yes, thank you Mr. Katz, we did already know that Steve Case wants to be the next Bill Gates. Except that he might be even more dictatorial and more maniacal that Slick Willy of Redmond.
Yes, I too prefer SuSE. And yes, the YaST2 installer is awful. Who wants to do an install and not be able to select packages. Also, I did the default install and YaST2 didn't even install the kernel source. Lame. But I was able to fix it all with YaST 1.03. The Corel Linux does not have all types of video support it should. I did get it working on my Toshiba 2060CDS laptop, but I still haven't gotten the sound card working. Plus, some of the things it does by default are not very good. If there is one big lesson that the windows install should teach all Linux distros doing gui installs, it is that the expert mode for install needs to be VERY customizable. Yeah, if you want a *recommended* default install, that's fine for newbies and people who don't care. But I want to be able to configure an install so that I don't have to go back and spend half a day fixing what the install did wrong or undoing the stuff I don't want. I was also unhappy that the Word Perfect 8 for Linux would not install correctly on the Corel distro. I know that the full Corel includes WP8, but I should be able to do the install from the WP8 cd I have regardless. Let's hope that Corel can get their act together, because I think they can be a hugely positive force in the future.
It sounds like this might be a good idea. Anything we as the open source community can do to keep the government and control out of our business is generally a positive step. It does bring to light some rather interesting questions about public domain databases. Even private ones under a GPL (DGPL) would make an interesting study. Having worked for a company that did database work for Linux, it would certainly present an interesting case as to how we would charge for our databases.
AMD is actually planning a move away from the tired x86 architecture. The Sledgehammer chip that is in R & D right now is supposed to be based on a better architecture. I am assuming (knowing full well the potential consequences of assuming) that there will be backward compatibility. In any regard, the Intel might not mean as much in a few years, particularly after Itanium or Merced or whatever it is goes kerplunk.
Wouldn't it all be easier if he were at some *meaningful* position, not some lax government job? You know, a job where his talents might be actually used.
Do you foresee any concrete relationships between members of Linux-Unix world and the Mac folks? Although Linux can run on the G3 and G4 and other Macs, it would be kinda nice to see Apple joining other big players like IBM and Compaq and supporting Linux. (Many Applications Crash, If Not The Operating System Hangs)
You and I all know that if Herr Clinton goes to an airport, he ain't gonna have to go through one of these. But why not? I think that these scanners should be hooked up at Congress, the White House, and the Supreme Court so that we can see our *leaders* for what they really are. A simple web site which carried feeds from the government scans could give every American a sense that their government was secure. Hey, if Strom Thurmond or Janet El Reno are packing heat, don't you want to know about it?