You also have to keep in mind that ARIN, based in the US, allocates IPs, both for US-based entities and to overseas folks.
Thinking of which, there is (or was) a class A subnet (that's 4294967296 addresses) on a piece of CoAx in Imperial College, London. I think it's only a few tens of feet long, as well!
There is already a seriously big communications hub in London's docklands area. Plus the UK academic community has its own network (the original Joint Academic Network). They started out on X.25 links and are currently moving to a UK-wide gigabit ethernet. Bristol University (where I work on the network team) is getting one of the SuperJANet 4 links to provide services to the West of England. The point in bringing this up is that all US links from JANet are carried via 3 trans-atlantic TeleGlobe fibres. When they go down, UK universities have major problems accessing the US, and access to the rest of the world (e.g. Japan) is slowed. It doesn't stop working. People still publish papers and Altavista Europe and other repositories still work. The problem, as I've said above is that sudddenly the information at the end of a hyperlink is not there.
it would be a lot more boring. For a start, most of the fastest connections in the world are to/from the US, and the backbone infrastructure there is pretty blindingly speedy. I suspect that, with the US taken out of the internet equation, the firm in Paris would have to wait a bit longer for the replies from programmers in India or Russia.
A lot of the content is also based over there, so the WWW would instantly (if we are talking a big Carnivore-style switch-off) lose a heck of a lot of information. Perhaps enough to severely cripple its use as a tool.
On the other hand, it would lose a sizeable percentage of AOL users as well, so the bandwidth for the rest of the world might increase dramatically:) Seriously, the US generates most of the traffic too, so maybe it would balance out.
In all, I think the worst problem would be the sudden lack of information.
No - they are, quite correctly, wipo.org - using the correct TLD in the international sense. What gets me are all these companies that go for all forms of their brand, even though the DNS is designed to require them not to. Not everyone is a multinational company - certainly the WIPO is not, and neither are the Corinthians. They should probably have full rights on corinthians-fc.co.br (or whatever letters would identify them as a football club over there).
Arachne? That really would need some improving! We installed it in a local terminal room since the 'puters in there weren't quite up to running Win95 and the newfangled terminal server wasn't ready. It crashed. Bigtime.
I haven't been following the MacOS X developments all that closely - how much of NeXT is left? Not particularly code, but the whole sort of mishmash of... "NeXT-ness" if you like.
The nes AmigaOS is being built on top of the Tao Elate RTOS. It is currently being hosted on RedHat Linux, so that a developers' box may be released. In this way, Amiga is attempting to get some applications written/ported before the main release of the new OS.
When it is released, the new OS will not be hosted, but will run on it's own. Check out the various links already posted for more details.
This is the developers' box that Amiga have announced. I've already seen several posts that seem to think that this is a Linux front-end, but these systems will actually be running the Elate OS on top of RedHat Linux. That may seem nonsensical (an OS running on top of another OS?), but Elate gets around this by treating the underlying OS as another abstraction of the hardware (as far as I can tell). Eventually, the Elate OS will be completely separate from other OSes, although it will still be able to run as a small compatability layer (much like Java) on other OSes to allow them to run Amiga applications.
The Linux/Developers' box is just that - an x86 box running Linux so that Elate can run in a stable environment for the time being. This allows work to start on developing applications for Elate before the platform (OS) is released as a full version (without another OS underneath).
Elate is an entire OS, but it runs on top of a "virtual processor". This is the machine specific code that deals with things like calling the real processor. As I understand it, Elate will run on top of any OS you care to write an abstraction layer for (much as with Java, but more efficiently), so Linux is acting as the processor (and graphics, sound, etc. systems) for the Elate OS.
I hope Amiga finally pull one of these resurrections off - it's been eight years, after all...
Although the developers' box isn't a real stormer when it comes to hardware, it should all be decent enough to let things that work nicely on it really scream when let loose on a later system. It remains to be seen what kind of performance Elate will give, but that should become clear over the next few months.
As an aside - the partner list looks pretty impressive, and I'd like to see the case designs that Disney animators (that is confirmed, BTW) came up with.
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D'oh! Of course. Sorry - it's still a lot of addresses on one bit of coax.
You also have to keep in mind that ARIN, based in the US, allocates IPs, both for US-based entities and to overseas folks.
Thinking of which, there is (or was) a class A subnet (that's 4294967296 addresses) on a piece of CoAx in Imperial College, London. I think it's only a few tens of feet long, as well!
For example: If the US was gone, then what would be holding Canada to the planet?
:)
Canada is a Commonwealth state - it doesn't need the US to hold it back
Sounds good :)
There is already a seriously big communications hub in London's docklands area. Plus the UK academic community has its own network (the original Joint Academic Network). They started out on X.25 links and are currently moving to a UK-wide gigabit ethernet. Bristol University (where I work on the network team) is getting one of the SuperJANet 4 links to provide services to the West of England. The point in bringing this up is that all US links from JANet are carried via 3 trans-atlantic TeleGlobe fibres. When they go down, UK universities have major problems accessing the US, and access to the rest of the world (e.g. Japan) is slowed. It doesn't stop working. People still publish papers and Altavista Europe and other repositories still work. The problem, as I've said above is that sudddenly the information at the end of a hyperlink is not there.
it would be a lot more boring. For a start, most of the fastest connections in the world are to/from the US, and the backbone infrastructure there is pretty blindingly speedy. I suspect that, with the US taken out of the internet equation, the firm in Paris would have to wait a bit longer for the replies from programmers in India or Russia.
:) Seriously, the US generates most of the traffic too, so maybe it would balance out.
A lot of the content is also based over there, so the WWW would instantly (if we are talking a big Carnivore-style switch-off) lose a heck of a lot of information. Perhaps enough to severely cripple its use as a tool.
On the other hand, it would lose a sizeable percentage of AOL users as well, so the bandwidth for the rest of the world might increase dramatically
In all, I think the worst problem would be the sudden lack of information.
No - they are, quite correctly, wipo.org - using the correct TLD in the international sense. What gets me are all these companies that go for all forms of their brand, even though the DNS is designed to require them not to. Not everyone is a multinational company - certainly the WIPO is not, and neither are the Corinthians. They should probably have full rights on corinthians-fc.co.br (or whatever letters would identify them as a football club over there).
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Arachne? That really would need some improving! We installed it in a local terminal room since the 'puters in there weren't quite up to running Win95 and the newfangled terminal server wasn't ready. It crashed. Bigtime.
I haven't been following the MacOS X developments all that closely - how much of NeXT is left? Not particularly code, but the whole sort of mishmash of... "NeXT-ness" if you like.
Thank you so much for your insightful comments.
The nes AmigaOS is being built on top of the Tao Elate RTOS. It is currently being hosted on RedHat Linux, so that a developers' box may be released. In this way, Amiga is attempting to get some applications written/ported before the main release of the new OS.
When it is released, the new OS will not be hosted, but will run on it's own. Check out the various links already posted for more details.
This is the developers' box that Amiga have announced. I've already seen several posts that seem to think that this is a Linux front-end, but these systems will actually be running the Elate OS on top of RedHat Linux. That may seem nonsensical (an OS running on top of another OS?), but Elate gets around this by treating the underlying OS as another abstraction of the hardware (as far as I can tell). Eventually, the Elate OS will be completely separate from other OSes, although it will still be able to run as a small compatability layer (much like Java) on other OSes to allow them to run Amiga applications.
The Linux/Developers' box is just that - an x86 box running Linux so that Elate can run in a stable environment for the time being. This allows work to start on developing applications for Elate before the platform (OS) is released as a full version (without another OS underneath).
Elate is an entire OS, but it runs on top of a "virtual processor". This is the machine specific code that deals with things like calling the real processor. As I understand it, Elate will run on top of any OS you care to write an abstraction layer for (much as with Java, but more efficiently), so Linux is acting as the processor (and graphics, sound, etc. systems) for the Elate OS.
I hope Amiga finally pull one of these resurrections off - it's been eight years, after all...
Although the developers' box isn't a real stormer when it comes to hardware, it should all be decent enough to let things that work nicely on it really scream when let loose on a later system. It remains to be seen what kind of performance Elate will give, but that should become clear over the next few months.
As an aside - the partner list looks pretty impressive, and I'd like to see the case designs that Disney animators (that is confirmed, BTW) came up with.