I want to know where those dicks at the FSF get off thinking they speak for the "community".
Some of us in the community would like to see companies as well as individuals benefit from FOSS. Many of those companies invest a lot of resources back into the community, not only providing paid coders, but also a huge amount of marketting capital. Linux mind-share is an asset at much as code is.
So Novell has a rather interesting new relationship with "the enemy" (which sounds very adolescent anyway). We have not seen any true evidence of negative impact nor does the agreement appear to go against the GPL. Stallman needs to chill the f*** out and stop thinking that the_community = RMS (assignment intentional).
Sincerely,
One of the Community
It's easy to take pot shots at him while you can't even list a name so we can measure your response or hold you accountable.
This guy writes 20k lines of code (yes, including comments) in tools, submits a request and gets selected by defcon to present (not just anyone gets to), and joins up with a guy (maynor) who has great kernel-fu, to help finish off the project. Maynor (great as he is) was icing to the cake... I've watched Ellch's work over the past nine months. He did most the work alone. The fact that he knows maynor and maynor respects him enough to join up should say something.
So he likes to use straight c code to spit out debugging info. How does that lead one to believe that Ellch is a tech-wuss? So Ellch brings in a ring-0 expert to help out, so? Perhaps you could provide your own kernel-shellcode so we can pick it apart?
I've competed against him in CTF, talked with him about his work, and respect him. YMMV. Please don't rip without identifying yourself. It makes me think you're just jealous that his wife can write better exploit code than you.
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I want to know where those dicks at the FSF get off thinking they speak for the "community". Some of us in the community would like to see companies as well as individuals benefit from FOSS. Many of those companies invest a lot of resources back into the community, not only providing paid coders, but also a huge amount of marketting capital. Linux mind-share is an asset at much as code is. So Novell has a rather interesting new relationship with "the enemy" (which sounds very adolescent anyway). We have not seen any true evidence of negative impact nor does the agreement appear to go against the GPL. Stallman needs to chill the f*** out and stop thinking that the_community = RMS (assignment intentional). Sincerely, One of the Community
It's easy to take pot shots at him while you can't even list a name so we can measure your response or hold you accountable.
This guy writes 20k lines of code (yes, including comments) in tools, submits a request and gets selected by defcon to present (not just anyone gets to), and joins up with a guy (maynor) who has great kernel-fu, to help finish off the project. Maynor (great as he is) was icing to the cake... I've watched Ellch's work over the past nine months. He did most the work alone. The fact that he knows maynor and maynor respects him enough to join up should say something.
So he likes to use straight c code to spit out debugging info. How does that lead one to believe that Ellch is a tech-wuss? So Ellch brings in a ring-0 expert to help out, so? Perhaps you could provide your own kernel-shellcode so we can pick it apart?
I've competed against him in CTF, talked with him about his work, and respect him. YMMV.
Please don't rip without identifying yourself. It makes me think you're just jealous that his wife can write better exploit code than you.
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