Incorrect. The congress has ceded the ability to start wars AND to continue them (as Obama exceeded the time limit perviously alloted without going to Congress for approval, essentially appropriating the power for himself).
Congress has given up their power over war, and are now nothing but a rubber stamp. If they put their foot down and bring the troops home, then I will believe what you say. But they never have, and likely never will.
Would you love to see them vote for someone who would end the war on drugs, end the wars, withdraw our troops from around the world and use the savings to fund social security for the next x decades until it could be phased out without harming anyone (rather than turning insolvent and dropping all who depend on it in the streets in the middle of the worst economic depression in the history of the nation)?
You do realize that education in this country has done nothing but get worse since the department of Education was installed, right? You do realize that there are numerous lifesaving drugs not available in the US, but only in Europe because of the FDA, right? You do realize that the EPA doesn't actually do anything, right?
Really? If you could time travel, you would have assassinated Hitler? Why wouldn't you go to Versailles while they were negotiating the end of WWI and tell them of the terrible consequences of oppressing the Germans to the point of economic collapse?
If you killed Hitler, all you would have gotten was a martyr to the Nazi cause, and a better commander in chief at the head of their military. Would you have assassinated Hitler if it meant the Nazis won on D-Day? If they never invaded Russia and lost their forces to the general winter or, God forbid, they remained allies through the end of the war? Imagine an axis that stretched uninterrupted from Vichy France all the way to Japan.
Why is it that people always forget that actions have consequences? France and England CREATED Hitler through their brutal oppression of Germany. The US CREATED al-Qaeda via decades of interference in Mideast politics, especially propping up Saudi dictators. Continued interference will do nothing but make it worse and worse, until some figure appears in the Middle East and unites the whole Arab world, and we find that we are facing a nuclear armed Arab superpower with a hundred years of hate staring at us across the Atlantic as our economy falls apart and our military become unsustainable.
If he had done the exact same things from America, he would have done nothing illegal. Of course, that wouldn't have stopped him from being black bagged.
Step 1: Demonize or animalize a group of people.
Step 2: Strip them of rights. Animals don't have rights.
Step 3: Kill said animals.
Step 4: Find new scapegoat.
Step 5: Repeat.
Militant organizations don't just spring up for no reason. They spring up because of hate. Would you hate the Chinese if they dropped bombs on your town? If they kidnapped citizens from countries like yours and held them without trial for decades? If they installed and propped up a corrupt puppet government in your own country that oppressed you at every opportunity? That had your family killed for little or no reason?
The US is a big, aggressive bully that replaces democracies with dictatorships, and has been doing so for DECADES. But idiots like you don't want to believe that anyone who would attack America has a reason to do so. You are a useful idiot. Congratulations, tool.
So if the president ordered your death, and got the approval of some 3rd world crackpot dictator on his way out the door, you would be totally ok with that? Remember, no trial, no accountability. All they have to do is say that you were an enemy of the state.
Wow, when did advocating decent into fascism become "insightful"?
Yeah, let's all re-think our notion of murder, such that any killing by the state is justified because they say it is. Can't wait for this shit to be applied on US soil, then to every beat cop in the name of "safety".
Note that in 2006, approximately 200 people in the US were killed by police. In the same year, zero people were killed by terrorists.
Muslims are Semitic peoples, so I think we could get away with calling them "Juden". Maybe we could make them wear little crescents, and gradually erode any and all rights, first to property, then to movement, then to life itself.
What if he was a priest, far away from any battlefield, who simply recruited for them, and you went into his home at night and slit his throat, along with the throats of every other person there?
The number of people who can't tell the difference between combat (allowed in wartime and in self defense) and assassination (NEVER allowed) is tremendously disturbing.
No, it means that a US citizen who went to Germany as a priest and recruiter for a non-state paramilitary organization PRIOR TO A DECLARATION OF WAR against Germany couldn't be targeted for assassination.
I guess some people love the police state. "There are no lines". So if the Commander-in-chief says YOU are an enemy of the state for literally no reason, or perhaps because you an millions of others oppose him politically, you and your millions of pals can be executed without due process, and he just has to pay politically, or through the actions of an already purged congress or an already purged court system?
That is not an exception to the ability to execute, that is an exception to presentation before a Grand Jury. This is 100% unconstitutional. And these fucks are PROUD of it.
No it doesn't. It just says it does. You know, sort of like how every action Hitler took was "legal" for the same reason.
I wonder how long before they start doing this on American soil? How long before they dispense with use of drones and authorize police in the streets to execute "terrorists" at will?
Yes, a committee made a shitty decision that lead to the loss of a shuttle. What part of your post contradicts my post, other than the ad hominemesque suggestion that I am "smug", and therefore wrong.
The engineers put it on top, the bureaucrats put it on the side. The engineers said don't launch when it is freezing outside, the bureaucrats wanted to avoid embarrassment at any cost. Do you see the pattern here? Private enterprise has the correct incentives. You don't get promotions and raises by longevity, and avoid losing them by being embarrassed, you get them with results. And if the result is catastrophic failure, you lose your job, along with everyone else (more than likely), and the next in line gets a shot.
I'm not sure why this is apparently so hard to understand.
You will note that I said nothing about scientific or engineering advances that came from that program. You imagined I said that. That speaks more to what is on your mind than what is on mine or anyone else's.
Are you really trying to deny that the Shuttle was designed by committee? For starters, they had no business putting the shuttle on the side of the first stage. It should have been on the top from the start. That simple design change would have saved us a shuttle. Further, the bureaucracy is directly responsible for the other shuttle loss as they forced the launch against the recommendations of their engineers.
NASA was once great. But now it isn't. It's a bureaucratic mess.
Also of note, there were no private shuttle launches because NASA had a government enforced monopoly on space launches. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Private_spaceflight#American_deregulation After that monopoly was repealed, private spaceflight caught up to the capabilities of government sponsered spaceflight in a mere twenty years (and exceeded their number in just seven). Funny how lovers of the state deride private initiative for being ineffective when those private ventures are quite literally forced at gunpoint to stay out of the industry.
Not the concept of reusability, just this particular committee designed ass hat when administered by a broken culture.
A private, non-subsidized company will innovate, unlike the monolithic bureaucracy that NASA has become, until they are able to do it, and do it safely. And cheaply too.
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Incorrect. The congress has ceded the ability to start wars AND to continue them (as Obama exceeded the time limit perviously alloted without going to Congress for approval, essentially appropriating the power for himself).
Congress has given up their power over war, and are now nothing but a rubber stamp. If they put their foot down and bring the troops home, then I will believe what you say. But they never have, and likely never will.
Would you love to see them vote for someone who would end the war on drugs, end the wars, withdraw our troops from around the world and use the savings to fund social security for the next x decades until it could be phased out without harming anyone (rather than turning insolvent and dropping all who depend on it in the streets in the middle of the worst economic depression in the history of the nation)?
You do realize that education in this country has done nothing but get worse since the department of Education was installed, right? You do realize that there are numerous lifesaving drugs not available in the US, but only in Europe because of the FDA, right? You do realize that the EPA doesn't actually do anything, right?
Probably not.
Really? If you could time travel, you would have assassinated Hitler? Why wouldn't you go to Versailles while they were negotiating the end of WWI and tell them of the terrible consequences of oppressing the Germans to the point of economic collapse?
If you killed Hitler, all you would have gotten was a martyr to the Nazi cause, and a better commander in chief at the head of their military. Would you have assassinated Hitler if it meant the Nazis won on D-Day? If they never invaded Russia and lost their forces to the general winter or, God forbid, they remained allies through the end of the war? Imagine an axis that stretched uninterrupted from Vichy France all the way to Japan.
Why is it that people always forget that actions have consequences? France and England CREATED Hitler through their brutal oppression of Germany. The US CREATED al-Qaeda via decades of interference in Mideast politics, especially propping up Saudi dictators. Continued interference will do nothing but make it worse and worse, until some figure appears in the Middle East and unites the whole Arab world, and we find that we are facing a nuclear armed Arab superpower with a hundred years of hate staring at us across the Atlantic as our economy falls apart and our military become unsustainable.
If he had done the exact same things from America, he would have done nothing illegal. Of course, that wouldn't have stopped him from being black bagged.
Hurray police state!
Step 1: Demonize or animalize a group of people.
Step 2: Strip them of rights. Animals don't have rights.
Step 3: Kill said animals.
Step 4: Find new scapegoat.
Step 5: Repeat.
Militant organizations don't just spring up for no reason. They spring up because of hate. Would you hate the Chinese if they dropped bombs on your town? If they kidnapped citizens from countries like yours and held them without trial for decades? If they installed and propped up a corrupt puppet government in your own country that oppressed you at every opportunity? That had your family killed for little or no reason?
The US is a big, aggressive bully that replaces democracies with dictatorships, and has been doing so for DECADES. But idiots like you don't want to believe that anyone who would attack America has a reason to do so. You are a useful idiot. Congratulations, tool.
Sure, it was also reasonably likely that those cars were full of children going to the Madrassa, as he was, in fact, a cleric. Still ok?
So if the president ordered your death, and got the approval of some 3rd world crackpot dictator on his way out the door, you would be totally ok with that? Remember, no trial, no accountability. All they have to do is say that you were an enemy of the state.
Wow, when did advocating decent into fascism become "insightful"?
Yeah, let's all re-think our notion of murder, such that any killing by the state is justified because they say it is. Can't wait for this shit to be applied on US soil, then to every beat cop in the name of "safety".
Note that in 2006, approximately 200 people in the US were killed by police. In the same year, zero people were killed by terrorists.
Was it not interesting when the German legislature ceded all authority to the executive? Tell me, what happened after they did that?
"It could never happen here" there either.
By your logic, the targeting of priests who support US policy and recruit for the military for assassination is also legitimate.
Woe to the priests, I guess.
What happens when the war moves to our soil?
You are certainly begging to be a victim of the state. May your chains rest lightly upon you.
Ron Paul would be a good start.
Muslims are Semitic peoples, so I think we could get away with calling them "Juden". Maybe we could make them wear little crescents, and gradually erode any and all rights, first to property, then to movement, then to life itself.
What if he was a priest, far away from any battlefield, who simply recruited for them, and you went into his home at night and slit his throat, along with the throats of every other person there?
The number of people who can't tell the difference between combat (allowed in wartime and in self defense) and assassination (NEVER allowed) is tremendously disturbing.
Sorry, are you talking about al Qaeda, or the US armed forces, including the non-uniformed CIA?
No, it means that a US citizen who went to Germany as a priest and recruiter for a non-state paramilitary organization PRIOR TO A DECLARATION OF WAR against Germany couldn't be targeted for assassination.
Ha ha, o wow.
I guess some people love the police state. "There are no lines". So if the Commander-in-chief says YOU are an enemy of the state for literally no reason, or perhaps because you an millions of others oppose him politically, you and your millions of pals can be executed without due process, and he just has to pay politically, or through the actions of an already purged congress or an already purged court system?
And we are at war with Yemen now?
That is not an exception to the ability to execute, that is an exception to presentation before a Grand Jury. This is 100% unconstitutional. And these fucks are PROUD of it.
No it doesn't. It just says it does. You know, sort of like how every action Hitler took was "legal" for the same reason.
I wonder how long before they start doing this on American soil? How long before they dispense with use of drones and authorize police in the streets to execute "terrorists" at will?
Yes, a committee made a shitty decision that lead to the loss of a shuttle. What part of your post contradicts my post, other than the ad hominemesque suggestion that I am "smug", and therefore wrong.
The engineers put it on top, the bureaucrats put it on the side. The engineers said don't launch when it is freezing outside, the bureaucrats wanted to avoid embarrassment at any cost. Do you see the pattern here? Private enterprise has the correct incentives. You don't get promotions and raises by longevity, and avoid losing them by being embarrassed, you get them with results. And if the result is catastrophic failure, you lose your job, along with everyone else (more than likely), and the next in line gets a shot.
I'm not sure why this is apparently so hard to understand.
No, climate change is real, because it gets warm in summer AND because it gets cold in winter!
No, but I wouldn't be surprised if they halved in six years at some point.
My my, aren't we defensive?
You will note that I said nothing about scientific or engineering advances that came from that program. You imagined I said that. That speaks more to what is on your mind than what is on mine or anyone else's.
Are you really trying to deny that the Shuttle was designed by committee? For starters, they had no business putting the shuttle on the side of the first stage. It should have been on the top from the start. That simple design change would have saved us a shuttle. Further, the bureaucracy is directly responsible for the other shuttle loss as they forced the launch against the recommendations of their engineers.
NASA was once great. But now it isn't. It's a bureaucratic mess.
Also of note, there were no private shuttle launches because NASA had a government enforced monopoly on space launches. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Private_spaceflight#American_deregulation After that monopoly was repealed, private spaceflight caught up to the capabilities of government sponsered spaceflight in a mere twenty years (and exceeded their number in just seven). Funny how lovers of the state deride private initiative for being ineffective when those private ventures are quite literally forced at gunpoint to stay out of the industry.
Not the concept of reusability, just this particular committee designed ass hat when administered by a broken culture.
A private, non-subsidized company will innovate, unlike the monolithic bureaucracy that NASA has become, until they are able to do it, and do it safely. And cheaply too.