The Dell 6400 and I believe 6500 series laptops have the SSD option. We have several of the Platter and SSD versions of the 6400 series laptops and, yeah...the difference is *more* then just noticeable.
For around $100 more per unit, we're increasing the performance of the system more than any RAM, CPU or GPU unit could ever hope to accomplish. Boot times go from over 30 seconds to under 20, apps not only respond faster UI wise, but *functionality*-wise as well (Win7 blows the doors off of XP in UI response when in Aero regardless of drive-type), and if you have server-based storage (personal work-files on the J: share or some such), the limited storage isn't much of an issue.
We've standardized now on the SSD option for all but the worst offline-storage offenders.
I think I am beginning to see a common denominator between all the Win7 haters here...
FYI, rob: I have 2 laptops running Windows 7 at home that both have 1GB of RAM. They both boot in under 30 seconds and run Aero just fine. In fact, I almost think it helps that the hardware is older, thus I don't have to deal with the 85+GB drivers, just the basic one's that ship and update with 7. Sure, they won't break any records (the youngest one is 4 years old), but for netflix, Office, and Pandora, they both work beautifully...
"Windows 7 and your average suite of corporate crapware (anti-virus, monitoring tools, Outlook and Word, etc) will burn through 1G of memory just getting started."
Odd. My 1GB Acer Laptop handles all of that just fine...I can only imagine a desktop would handle it even better, as their drives, CPU's and RAM tend to be faster.
This works well until the connection speeds decrease or increase based on usage of other connected clients or whatever might be going on within the users system in the background.
Hulu can currently switch streams at any point in the video to account for that...without having to *add* to the bandwidth usage by adding uploads/downloads just to test speed.
Russian Geologist:
That's what we call it when we
have a catastrophic oil spill.
El Frood:
Oh, Jesus.
(thinks, shakes head)
I don't know what's scarier --
a catastrophic oil spill or the fact
that it happens so often that you
people have a term for it.
"There's "free" and there's "provided at no additional charge." I used the latter definition of Free."
What is provided at no additional charge? What...on top of what is paid for by taxes, is provided?
Are you seriously trying to defend your usage by saying schools are "free" because you get an education provided at no additional cost than what you are currently paying...for education?
Pure comic genius, man. Really. It's awe inspiring. Your logic is unfathomable.
Paid by tax != free by any stretch of the imagination (as you yourself admit), so you are either trying to purposefully spread ignorance to defend your position or you yourself are simply ignorant of the cost.
Roadways and education are only free to those who do not pay taxes. The moment you start thinking otherwise, is the same moment you no longer deserve either.
"wifi also suffers from greater range limitation than wired"
My wires must be bad, then. I can get a good 100ft from my router and still be connected, but if I go so much as a mm from my wire, I lose connection. That's around 100% packet loss!
Right now, anything with a decent $/GB that is on par with the better SSDs currently out will change things up pretty well.
I have 2 Dell D6400 laptops here, both with Win7Pro, with identical CPU/RAM/GPU. One has an SSD Drive, the other, a spindle drive (7200 RPM).
Without a doubt, the SSD Drive boots faster, opens apps faster, and reboots faster. "Faster" is actually a poor word to describe it. My jaw hit the floor.
With a few *minor* tweaks, we got that baby to boot, complete to an interactive desktop, in 17 seconds. (~10, not counting POST..which could be *much* improved with a little EFI love...) This is vs. ~30 on the other system, post POST.
Cannot wait for prices to drop any more. Starting to upgrade my personal systems in the next few months... (damn my having to see it in action...I was blissfully unaware and happily saving money...)
Because I answered the second....which didn't involve Microsoft's hated method of "Embrace, Extend, Extinguish".
So...Google had an excuse...without using the 3 E's...
What's Apple's excuse?...they didn't have one. They found a quick and easy way to get more users and inflate their numbers...without actually improving anything.
Instead of having users carry around an easily accessible log of their passwords, why don't we just train them in the use of proper passwords (read: passphrases) and remove the need for aging/rotation altogether?
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I never said more wouldn't be better, genius. Comment I replied to said, "2GB is the minimum if you don't want to be frustrated..."
I called BS. It's as simple as that. I even gave examples of the usage scenarios...where 1GB works just fine.
Pick an E-peen fight with someone else.
Who, may I ask, is offering "top notch support" for 386 systems??
The Dell 6400 and I believe 6500 series laptops have the SSD option. We have several of the Platter and SSD versions of the 6400 series laptops and, yeah...the difference is *more* then just noticeable.
For around $100 more per unit, we're increasing the performance of the system more than any RAM, CPU or GPU unit could ever hope to accomplish. Boot times go from over 30 seconds to under 20, apps not only respond faster UI wise, but *functionality*-wise as well (Win7 blows the doors off of XP in UI response when in Aero regardless of drive-type), and if you have server-based storage (personal work-files on the J: share or some such), the limited storage isn't much of an issue.
We've standardized now on the SSD option for all but the worst offline-storage offenders.
Best reply yet.... How amusing that it's from an AC.
"that sucks up effects like made"
I think I am beginning to see a common denominator between all the Win7 haters here...
FYI, rob: I have 2 laptops running Windows 7 at home that both have 1GB of RAM. They both boot in under 30 seconds and run Aero just fine. In fact, I almost think it helps that the hardware is older, thus I don't have to deal with the 85+GB drivers, just the basic one's that ship and update with 7. Sure, they won't break any records (the youngest one is 4 years old), but for netflix, Office, and Pandora, they both work beautifully...
"as to way your post is so damn stupid." ...
Pure. Comic. Genius.
"Windows 7 and your average suite of corporate crapware (anti-virus, monitoring tools, Outlook and Word, etc) will burn through 1G of memory just getting started."
Odd. My 1GB Acer Laptop handles all of that just fine...I can only imagine a desktop would handle it even better, as their drives, CPU's and RAM tend to be faster.
This works well until the connection speeds decrease or increase based on usage of other connected clients or whatever might be going on within the users system in the background.
Hulu can currently switch streams at any point in the video to account for that...without having to *add* to the bandwidth usage by adding uploads/downloads just to test speed.
Wow.
Seriously?
Have you missed all of the stories about mobile gaming?
"How many programs make sense both on a phone and a gaming console?"
Uh... Games?
El Frood:
Petrocalamities?
Russian Geologist:
That's what we call it when we
have a catastrophic oil spill.
El Frood:
Oh, Jesus.
(thinks, shakes head)
I don't know what's scarier --
a catastrophic oil spill or the fact
that it happens so often that you
people have a term for it.
"There's "free" and there's "provided at no additional charge." I used the latter definition of Free."
What is provided at no additional charge? What...on top of what is paid for by taxes, is provided?
Are you seriously trying to defend your usage by saying schools are "free" because you get an education provided at no additional cost than what you are currently paying...for education?
Pure comic genius, man. Really. It's awe inspiring. Your logic is unfathomable.
Paid by tax != free by any stretch of the imagination (as you yourself admit), so you are either trying to purposefully spread ignorance to defend your position or you yourself are simply ignorant of the cost.
Roadways and education are only free to those who do not pay taxes. The moment you start thinking otherwise, is the same moment you no longer deserve either.
Google: Toshiba ze2113us.
Runs Windows 7 with 1GB of RAM just fine. Even enabled Aero. All that was required was to bring the RAM up to 1GB.
Try enabling Compiz on that GPU. Have fun. :)
The amusing thing here....is that most routers run Linux.
Yes. If, as with any program, it is programed for that type of interface.
Do you think sites like newgrounds would jump at the chance to make an iPad games section?
"wifi also suffers from greater range limitation than wired"
My wires must be bad, then. I can get a good 100ft from my router and still be connected, but if I go so much as a mm from my wire, I lose connection. That's around 100% packet loss!
Range from Wifi = 100ft.
Range from Wire = Zero.
Right now, anything with a decent $/GB that is on par with the better SSDs currently out will change things up pretty well.
I have 2 Dell D6400 laptops here, both with Win7Pro, with identical CPU/RAM/GPU. One has an SSD Drive, the other, a spindle drive (7200 RPM).
Without a doubt, the SSD Drive boots faster, opens apps faster, and reboots faster. "Faster" is actually a poor word to describe it. My jaw hit the floor.
With a few *minor* tweaks, we got that baby to boot, complete to an interactive desktop, in 17 seconds. (~10, not counting POST..which could be *much* improved with a little EFI love...) This is vs. ~30 on the other system, post POST.
Cannot wait for prices to drop any more. Starting to upgrade my personal systems in the next few months... (damn my having to see it in action...I was blissfully unaware and happily saving money...)
Advantage: Single Source codebase to support WP7, Windows, and Xbox.
How's Apple doing with that??
That would suck. Spindle drives are already too slow. Let's use something a tad faster...please?
Because I answered the second....which didn't involve Microsoft's hated method of "Embrace, Extend, Extinguish".
So...Google had an excuse...without using the 3 E's...
What's Apple's excuse? ...they didn't have one. They found a quick and easy way to get more users and inflate their numbers...without actually improving anything.
That was the point. Sorry you missed it.
"why did Google spend billions buying them?"
Ad revenue.
What's Apple's excuse?
Or...
Instead of having users carry around an easily accessible log of their passwords, why don't we just train them in the use of proper passwords (read: passphrases) and remove the need for aging/rotation altogether?
"(dramatic voice)
Welcome to the world of tomorrow!"
You forgot:
"Brought to you Today!"
...that's OK. I'm anti-semantic. ;)
Oooh...
The best you can come up with to troll my post was a grammar error? How cute.