Trelayne, I'm not talking about vegetarianism. Vegetarianism is great for health, environmental, spiritual and human-rights reasons. I'm talking about the lies PETA spreads about the animal research. Animal research is absolutely necessary. I felt that since PCRM's anti-research anti-science propaganda was being touted as fact with regard to animal research, people reading this thread would appreciate seeing the other side, the science side.
and as for: What relevance is who the messenger is or who its affiliates are?
It always matters. You must always consider the source of the information you are receiving, what their motivations are for supplying the information and what information it would be in their best interest to twist, or leave out entirely. It's PCRM and PETA that rely on shock value.
Actually, the Molotov cocktail was lit and strong enough to kill anyone in the house. It's only sheer dumb luck that ALF hasn't killed anyone yet, the lit, functional firebomb they planted failed to detonate. And the person they were attempting to firebomb in this case was a her--a colleague of the man reported on.
Furthermore, research on primates is heavily regulated, even more so than research on humans, by multiple agencies--the federal and state government on top of the people (probably NIH) providing the funding as well as the university itself and probably a private certification group and a committee that includes both scientists and members of the community at large. Nothing gets by all that that isn't conducted with the most humane procedures possible. You want to personally make sure the research is humane? Get yourself on your local university's IACUC.
You think PCRM provides facts?!? They are PETA, with a different name to target a different audience, an audience that thinks they want a "scientific" explanation but wont bother to critically examine the information being spooned to them. Look at the tax papers--PCRM gets its funding and shares its leadership with PETA. The vast majority of their members are *not* physicians. For the few you see, think about it--even the anti-stem cell movement can find a couple wing nuts who somehow got an MD to say stem cell research is bad or we can make do with what Bush has provided.
For the sake of balance, check these guys out too
http://www.rds-online.org.uk/pages/page.asp?i_Tool barID=2&i_PageID=48
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Trelayne, I'm not talking about vegetarianism. Vegetarianism is great for health, environmental, spiritual and human-rights reasons. I'm talking about the lies PETA spreads about the animal research. Animal research is absolutely necessary. I felt that since PCRM's anti-research anti-science propaganda was being touted as fact with regard to animal research, people reading this thread would appreciate seeing the other side, the science side.
c ast/Adjudication+Details.htm?Adjudication_id=41068
and as for:
What relevance is who the messenger is or who its affiliates are?
It always matters. You must always consider the source of the information you are receiving, what their motivations are for supplying the information and what information it would be in their best interest to twist, or leave out entirely. It's PCRM and PETA that rely on shock value.
You want unbiased, you aren't going to get it. But to get close, check out the UK Advertising Standards Authority. The ASA is an independent agency in the UK that enforces honesty in advertising. They review one of PETA recent flyers in the UK http://www.asa.org.uk/asa/adjudications/non_broad
Actually, the Molotov cocktail was lit and strong enough to kill anyone in the house. It's only sheer dumb luck that ALF hasn't killed anyone yet, the lit, functional firebomb they planted failed to detonate. And the person they were attempting to firebomb in this case was a her--a colleague of the man reported on. Furthermore, research on primates is heavily regulated, even more so than research on humans, by multiple agencies--the federal and state government on top of the people (probably NIH) providing the funding as well as the university itself and probably a private certification group and a committee that includes both scientists and members of the community at large. Nothing gets by all that that isn't conducted with the most humane procedures possible. You want to personally make sure the research is humane? Get yourself on your local university's IACUC.
You think PCRM provides facts?!? They are PETA, with a different name to target a different audience, an audience that thinks they want a "scientific" explanation but wont bother to critically examine the information being spooned to them. Look at the tax papers--PCRM gets its funding and shares its leadership with PETA. The vast majority of their members are *not* physicians. For the few you see, think about it--even the anti-stem cell movement can find a couple wing nuts who somehow got an MD to say stem cell research is bad or we can make do with what Bush has provided. For the sake of balance, check these guys out too http://www.rds-online.org.uk/pages/page.asp?i_Tool barID=2&i_PageID=48