This is so far away from basic science standards it wouldn't get 2 min of attention from a reviewer before being outright rejected. For example, what are the errors and how did they arrive at these error intervals? Why not use a proper calorimeter? Perhaps measuring the energy going into the device would even be a better idea. And well hell, you can't do science while someone is telling you to pay no attention to the man behind the curtain. Hell in this case there isn't even a curtain! Rossi turns the machine on and off and interferes with everything. No real scientist would put their name on this.
You guess wrong. They are not reputable. Read up on them. Look them up. There is *nothing* reputable about this "report" or whatever the hell they call this thing. They have been working with this Rossi guy for over 2 years now, they are in on it and this was done at Rossis place in Italy. And the experiment won't even get a pass at the high school level. Read the other comments. Read the rebuttal from real scientist at Upsala university.
You do know that this is Rossi's 3rd energy Fraud deal. His most famous was turning trash into oil. He got sent to prison for tax fraud and dumping toxic waste that was suppose to be turned into oil. Something like 10000 tons of toxic waste that is, that cost over 40 million to clean up.
They guy is a fraud. These scientist if they still are should know better (at least one of them is retired). Right now i can't see how they can be anything but party to the fraud. Incompetence at this massive level is just unfathomable.
There is nothing even that consistent with their thought process. They are closer to a terrorist group looking for reasons to justify violence. At least at the top.
he already has like 10 Million. So i guess he needs more. One of his previous ventures, turning trash into oil, ended up costing the state something like 40M to clean up. So perhaps he a 50M + guy before he jumps ship.
I have plenty of things i would do with that sort of coin. In fact i think i could burn through quite fast if i didn't also try and invest a bit around.
Its even worse. They are Rossi's people. One already has a history with this guy. And both have done nothing for the last few years other than repeat really really shitty experiments. The only logical conclusion i can come up with, is they are in on the fraud.
No you wouldn't. Industrial espionage is real. They would have their own working prototypes soon enough. And well competition is a good thing. In fact you may well find yourself running foul of anticompetitive laws in different countries if others didn't also get something working.
So don't try to be a billionaire. If i found such a mechanism and could prove it. I would put a lot of effort into prior art to ensure *no one gets the patent*. I want to live in the world with free energy.
Have you seen annihilation and creation operators on electrons, protons, atoms or even molecules? BTW my friends back in the physics department still work on this stuff. You don't teleport chemistry, you teleport quantum entangled state. I am not pulling this out of my arse.
Oh ok. Well i don't think i agree with that either. These days we are really really good at reverse engineering things. You just can't keep secrets like you use too.
As just a heat source, the only thing i have heard of is the "just heat the thing up" Sterling generators the military developed. I have on idea if it was deployed.
Engineers around you design entire power stations in under 24 hours? Don't be an ass.
Ironically for small scale its probably more like a week. Smaller scale stuff has been around for a while. The electrical side would be directly off the shelf, one of them container generators for example. The turbine side not so much. But there are sterling type generators available off the self (sort of) where you just add heat. He claims to have 1MW power or more. That the better part of half a million a year power. And he could scale it if it worked.
A 1GW steam generator system can easily be 1 Billion or so without a boiler. Really. Of course the trick is to scale. There are plenty of smaller 1-100MW pilot plants around. But expect to pay millions. Not really surprising considering 1MW for a year is about $438000 worth at 5c per kW/h.
In fact it is violating a quite a bit of known laws of physics. Like most of it. If this worked, it means everything we know about the strong and weak force are wrong. What would be a real nut buster is a century or so of data that backs up these models must somehow be all wrong, or some other magic is happening. Also there is all this puzzling astronomical observations that must also somehow be wrong. Even worse is that there is nothing special about different forms of nickel under heat and pressure around hydrogen. All sorts of nano forms have been tried and used in industrial process, and we would need to explain why it doesn't;t work there.
Even worse is how something in the Armstrong range can have any influence over the femtometer range. Chemical bonds and stuff affect the outside electron orbitals and is a very very very long way from the nucleus.
This is exactly like claiming perpetual motion. And he won't tell anyone how it works, which is why he can't get patent protection. He is a fraud.
And even better its only a few measurements over the whole month, and its just assumed to be constant. And the power going in wasn't measured properly either.
IF you knew anything about science and you read their paper. You would know this is not science either. They don't measure energy output at *all*. They don't even measure energy input properly. This is the same people that claimed they can't explain it 2 years ago, the same people that after 2 years refuse to improve the experiment beyond "ooh it looks so hot". This does not constitute anything. In fact I now believe they are part of the fraud. This is too sloppy to be real scientists (or so incompetent that i wouldn't let them teach preschool).
Oh and we use nickel in these sorts of conditions all the time in industry. Nano and otherwise. If this worked. We would have seen it by now all the time.
I have a few others. The power supply may be provided by Rossi. So there are all sorts of way to get power in that you don't measure. Balance, power factor, DC, high frequency AC to name a few. And lets be honest, this is so sloppy that they have shown no such extra power output in the first place. And the amount of fusion they claim from isotope results would give orders of magnitude more power.
If this was your magic show. They have a sheet over a really large object, pull it away to reveal an elephant and call that science.
That's what people said about 2 years ago when this device was first announced. It's later now, and things have changed.
No it hasn't. These "reputable" scientist are the same scientist that were claiming it works 2 years ago. And they still didn't do anything to improve the experiment. They didn't do any calorimetry, this is not published and would not last an hour in peer review, and its almost exactly what they said last time. Which is "look its hot, its more energy than we put in".
They are soo sloppy in the experimental approach i would give this a fail at high school level. Errors are stated at.01, with no justification or calculation, its just made up! I didn't find details of the power supply, but i guess its a special one from the inventor, another black box if you will, and no mention of checking things like power factor, balance and perhaps a choke or two in case some higher frequency energy is pumped in.
I am going to call it. They are party to the fraud.
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This is so far away from basic science standards it wouldn't get 2 min of attention from a reviewer before being outright rejected. For example, what are the errors and how did they arrive at these error intervals? Why not use a proper calorimeter? Perhaps measuring the energy going into the device would even be a better idea. And well hell, you can't do science while someone is telling you to pay no attention to the man behind the curtain. Hell in this case there isn't even a curtain! Rossi turns the machine on and off and interferes with everything. No real scientist would put their name on this.
You guess wrong. They are not reputable. Read up on them. Look them up. There is *nothing* reputable about this "report" or whatever the hell they call this thing. They have been working with this Rossi guy for over 2 years now, they are in on it and this was done at Rossis place in Italy. And the experiment won't even get a pass at the high school level. Read the other comments. Read the rebuttal from real scientist at Upsala university.
You do know that this is Rossi's 3rd energy Fraud deal. His most famous was turning trash into oil. He got sent to prison for tax fraud and dumping toxic waste that was suppose to be turned into oil. Something like 10000 tons of toxic waste that is, that cost over 40 million to clean up.
They guy is a fraud. These scientist if they still are should know better (at least one of them is retired). Right now i can't see how they can be anything but party to the fraud. Incompetence at this massive level is just unfathomable.
Not if you think about it. But then your AC, so i guess thinking is something you don't do a lot of.
They have been caught funding ALF like stuff.
There is nothing even that consistent with their thought process. They are closer to a terrorist group looking for reasons to justify violence. At least at the top.
he already has like 10 Million. So i guess he needs more. One of his previous ventures, turning trash into oil, ended up costing the state something like 40M to clean up. So perhaps he a 50M + guy before he jumps ship.
The "new" address almost none of this. Except providing some dubious isotope samples.
It is worse than that. They only measured power out of Rossi magic box power supply. So they didn't even measure the power going into the system.
These guys are almost certainly part of the deception.
His previous machine that was doing the rounds last year, was claimed to be 1MW.
I have plenty of things i would do with that sort of coin. In fact i think i could burn through quite fast if i didn't also try and invest a bit around.
Its even worse. They are Rossi's people. One already has a history with this guy. And both have done nothing for the last few years other than repeat really really shitty experiments. The only logical conclusion i can come up with, is they are in on the fraud.
No you wouldn't. Industrial espionage is real. They would have their own working prototypes soon enough. And well competition is a good thing. In fact you may well find yourself running foul of anticompetitive laws in different countries if others didn't also get something working.
So don't try to be a billionaire. If i found such a mechanism and could prove it. I would put a lot of effort into prior art to ensure *no one gets the patent*. I want to live in the world with free energy.
Have you seen annihilation and creation operators on electrons, protons, atoms or even molecules? BTW my friends back in the physics department still work on this stuff. You don't teleport chemistry, you teleport quantum entangled state. I am not pulling this out of my arse.
Oh ok. Well i don't think i agree with that either. These days we are really really good at reverse engineering things. You just can't keep secrets like you use too.
As just a heat source, the only thing i have heard of is the "just heat the thing up" Sterling generators the military developed. I have on idea if it was deployed.
Engineers around you design entire power stations in under 24 hours? Don't be an ass.
Ironically for small scale its probably more like a week. Smaller scale stuff has been around for a while. The electrical side would be directly off the shelf, one of them container generators for example. The turbine side not so much. But there are sterling type generators available off the self (sort of) where you just add heat. He claims to have 1MW power or more. That the better part of half a million a year power. And he could scale it if it worked.
But it doesn't work.
A 1GW steam generator system can easily be 1 Billion or so without a boiler. Really. Of course the trick is to scale. There are plenty of smaller 1-100MW pilot plants around. But expect to pay millions. Not really surprising considering 1MW for a year is about $438000 worth at 5c per kW/h.
In fact it is violating a quite a bit of known laws of physics. Like most of it. If this worked, it means everything we know about the strong and weak force are wrong. What would be a real nut buster is a century or so of data that backs up these models must somehow be all wrong, or some other magic is happening. Also there is all this puzzling astronomical observations that must also somehow be wrong. Even worse is that there is nothing special about different forms of nickel under heat and pressure around hydrogen. All sorts of nano forms have been tried and used in industrial process, and we would need to explain why it doesn't;t work there.
Even worse is how something in the Armstrong range can have any influence over the femtometer range. Chemical bonds and stuff affect the outside electron orbitals and is a very very very long way from the nucleus.
This is exactly like claiming perpetual motion. And he won't tell anyone how it works, which is why he can't get patent protection. He is a fraud.
There is nothing to figure out. This is just this guys next fraud. It is not like this is his frist rodeo.
And even better its only a few measurements over the whole month, and its just assumed to be constant. And the power going in wasn't measured properly either.
IF you knew anything about science and you read their paper. You would know this is not science either. They don't measure energy output at *all*. They don't even measure energy input properly. This is the same people that claimed they can't explain it 2 years ago, the same people that after 2 years refuse to improve the experiment beyond "ooh it looks so hot". This does not constitute anything. In fact I now believe they are part of the fraud. This is too sloppy to be real scientists (or so incompetent that i wouldn't let them teach preschool).
Oh and we use nickel in these sorts of conditions all the time in industry. Nano and otherwise. If this worked. We would have seen it by now all the time.
I have a few others. The power supply may be provided by Rossi. So there are all sorts of way to get power in that you don't measure. Balance, power factor, DC, high frequency AC to name a few. And lets be honest, this is so sloppy that they have shown no such extra power output in the first place. And the amount of fusion they claim from isotope results would give orders of magnitude more power.
If this was your magic show. They have a sheet over a really large object, pull it away to reveal an elephant and call that science.
That's what people said about 2 years ago when this device was first announced. It's later now, and things have changed.
No it hasn't. These "reputable" scientist are the same scientist that were claiming it works 2 years ago. And they still didn't do anything to improve the experiment. They didn't do any calorimetry, this is not published and would not last an hour in peer review, and its almost exactly what they said last time. Which is "look its hot, its more energy than we put in".
.01, with no justification or calculation, its just made up! I didn't find details of the power supply, but i guess its a special one from the inventor, another black box if you will, and no mention of checking things like power factor, balance and perhaps a choke or two in case some higher frequency energy is pumped in.
They are soo sloppy in the experimental approach i would give this a fail at high school level. Errors are stated at
I am going to call it. They are party to the fraud.