On the contrary. It is shown that people who grow up around other races are more racist, as they are able to see the differences for themselves instead of just taking the media's propagandic word for it that they are all the same except the color of their skin and the dimensions of their skull.
So according to you, genocide is just fine, as any attempt to preserve a race is racist. That must make everyone racist for trying to preserve the jewish race during WWII.
White supremacist? Again, where in any of my comments attached to this article did I say anything about the White race being superior?
You seem to live in some kind of fantasy world, where race only exists for every animal other than humans. I am tired of pointing to proof that race is a biological reality for humans. Why should I have to prove the visibly obvious anyways? How about you prove your claim, since it goes against intuition - prove that there is no such thing as race.
In regards to the rest of your argument, or should I say slander, where do I say anything about superiority?
All I was talking about is the difference between racism, which requires the belief of superiority by definition, and racial bias, which is simply the use choice of one race over another.
Choosing my own race based upon the fact that I believe it to be unique and worth preserving has nothing to do with racism, as again, racism is defined as the belief of superiority of one race over another.
Wrong. There is such programming. There are many studies that prove that. It is also highly logical - perhaps your logic is flawed.
This instinct, of preferring one's own race, is not a very strong one, but it is still there, stronger in some sub-races than others.
The reason it is not very strong is that the ability for races to intermingle was highly limited by primitive transportation technologies in the past for the vast majority of our evolution. People all lived in villages and rarely left their home village, if ever. Before that they were even smaller groups of tribes. They had little or no contact with other races and even tribes. There was contact, hence why there is the instinct, but not a lot of contact, hence the small strength of the instinct. The instinct was not prepared for the advent of modern transportation, urban living, multiracial nation states, and mass media race mixing brainwashing.
Your last paragraph contradicts itself, and also is incredibly wrong. The fact of interbreeding means nothing for race! Races are defined as being able to interbreed! Thus, the fact two races being able to and doing so in the wild does not mean they are the same race! Even for a species this is fuzzy. The polar bear and the grizzly bear are considered SEPARATE SPECIES, yet they still are able to interbreed, and fertile hybrids have been found in the wild (although incredibly rare).
If you are trying to say that a race is not an organism, but a species is; then that is ridiculous. Where is that stated? The definition of organism definitely does not say anything that would make a species any more of an organism than a race. A species is an organism, a race is an organism, and an individual is an organism. Yea, even the planet earth, is by definition, an organism.
White supremacist? Where in my comments attached to this article did I ever mention the superiority of any race? I suppose all tree huggers are tree supremacists as you seem to imply that the desire to preserve something is to believe that it is superior? Right, because it can't be anything about it simply being unique and worth preserving.
Your solution to just allow those with an agenda to genocide the White race to simply continue with their attempts unopposed seems quite silly to me.
True, but the fact that all races have this trait, as is demonstrated by countless studies, proves then that such a trait must increase the probability of survival as evolution has selected for it in all races.
It is pretty logical when you think about it. Anything that has the desire for self preservation is on average going to have a higher probability of survival than something that lacks such a desire.
It wasn't even redundant, as you stated a true fact, the possibility that his predicament is because he hates his parents.
It is a fact proved once again by a recent study - if you hate your same sex parent, generally because they were abusive, then you have a much higher chance of dating and liking people from a different race than that same sex parent is from.
You are not making any sense. Barak? Tiger? All mixed races. Is that so hard for you to understand? The highly mixed people are highly mixed, they are no longer of any one race. They are irrelevant to the discussion.
You also seem to highly overestimate the amount of mixing between races. If you look at the multitude of studies available, and they are getting better with the modern genetic technology we have now, you will see that there are still plenty of pure Europeans left. Just as are there pure Asians and pure Africans. These are the three major races, and the mixtures of them, like Arabs, do not change anything.
Even if every Mongoloid person was at least 1% Caucasian, would that mean that the Mongoloid people should just let their 99% distinctness become extinct? That is ridiculous. You are advocating genocide.
Go read this paper, it should help you in your confusion:
Also, wow, are you ever wrong about Arabs and Persian, so wrong in fact, that I will disregard anything further you have to say because it is all as based on ignorance as what you say of the Persian/Arab divide.
From the Commiepedia itself:
"Genetic studies conducted by Cavalli-Sforza have revealed that Iranians cluster closely with European groups and more distantly from Near Eastern groups. Preliminary genetic tests suggest common origins for most of the Iranian peoples. [44] This study is partially supported by another one, based on Y-Chromosome haplogroups.[45]
Basically, the findings of this study reveal many common genetic markers found among the Iranian peoples from the Tigris to the areas west of the Indus."
What you are missing is the fact of outbreeding depression. Outbreeding depression is actually worse than inbreeding depression. The effects of inbreeding depression also almost entirely disappear after a population size larger than 500, so much so that they are not statistically relevant. I already talked about this in a previous post.
This is to you and everyone who is bringing up the same thing about when I said "everyone prefers":
First off, I believe that most people, having had enough intelligence, and not having the aim to simply nit pick with anecdotal evidence, easily understood what I said to mean that "everyone has the inherent *instinct* to prefer".
Of course there are exceptions. There is probably one in a million who are defective due to random mutation, and thus do not have this instinct intact, and then there are those who are brainwashed to override said instinct using their mind. Just as one can resist the instinct to eat long enough to starve to death, one can override the instinct to preserve one's own race. People could also be overriding the instinct due to mental damage caused by life experiences other than brainwashing. For example, people who's same sex parents were abusive to them have a much higher chance of dating and liking people from a different race.
A race that evolved the tendency to preserve itself will be more preserved on average than races that do not have that tendency. That means that after many races coming and going and much time having passed, the most probable races to still exist are those that are inherently interested in their own racial preservation.
To not have instincts towards preservation is a recipe for extinction, no?
First off, you speak of marriage, which a mistake as it causes an understatement of the statistics we are interested in. Unions producing children is what matter, and Marriages are a decreasing percent of such unions. With mixed race unions, marriage is even more rare.
Anyways, they are doing the best job they can in order to do this. It is hard work brainwashing people to go against their instincts, you must give them credit. They are more successful in some Countries (Britain - over 50% of black men and over 60% of black women have a white partner) than others (Germany).
Regardless, the amount you state, of 10%, is huge. It means extinction of distinctiveness in only a short period of time. At the least, it means we will be a minority in our own country in short time, at which time we will no longer have any real political power.
The continuum that he speaks of is due to the fact that the races diverged at different times, Europeans first, Asians next, and not as you thought (due to geographic proximity).
The existence of "Mixed-up" people does not preclude the existence of the distinct originals. The fact that there is a continuum of colors does not mean that there are no colors that are distinct. Red is distinct from green, despite the existence of yellow.
Iran's population is made up of approximately 51% Persians, only a very low amount of Arabs (approximately 2%). Persians actually do look quite different from Arabs, but then again, looks is only one of the many/possible/ difference between races. Anyways, both of those sub-races are of the Mongoloid race (ie. Asian) with varying degrees of Negroid admixture.
He is hated as much as any who point out such politically incorrect facts.
The fact is that the scientific community accepts race as a biological reality, except for those who have an agenda to hide the reality. Also, the undeniability of this fact, that of race being a biological reality, is becoming much stronger much faster in recent years. Basically, ever since the fact that many drugs work for some races but not others became widely known, no one seriously denies that race is a biological reality.
The fact that you still believe the old fallacy which is no longer able to be supported simply shows you are behind the times. This is not your fault though, as the media and schools are those doing the brainwashing, and thus they do not report on such information which would make their attempts to brainwash harder.
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On the contrary. It is shown that people who grow up around other races are more racist, as they are able to see the differences for themselves instead of just taking the media's propagandic word for it that they are all the same except the color of their skin and the dimensions of their skull.
You have an interesting way of giving up.
Your entire post is off topic. Uninteresting.
Also, I never said anything about a race being superior as being the reason it should be preserved.
Repeatedly I have stated that I believe my race to be unique and worth preserving on those grounds alone.
So according to you, genocide is just fine, as any attempt to preserve a race is racist. That must make everyone racist for trying to preserve the jewish race during WWII.
White supremacist? Again, where in any of my comments attached to this article did I say anything about the White race being superior?
You seem to live in some kind of fantasy world, where race only exists for every animal other than humans. I am tired of pointing to proof that race is a biological reality for humans. Why should I have to prove the visibly obvious anyways? How about you prove your claim, since it goes against intuition - prove that there is no such thing as race.
In regards to the rest of your argument, or should I say slander, where do I say anything about superiority?
All I was talking about is the difference between racism, which requires the belief of superiority by definition, and racial bias, which is simply the use choice of one race over another.
Choosing my own race based upon the fact that I believe it to be unique and worth preserving has nothing to do with racism, as again, racism is defined as the belief of superiority of one race over another.
Wrong. There is such programming. There are many studies that prove that. It is also highly logical - perhaps your logic is flawed.
This instinct, of preferring one's own race, is not a very strong one, but it is still there, stronger in some sub-races than others.
The reason it is not very strong is that the ability for races to intermingle was highly limited by primitive transportation technologies in the past for the vast majority of our evolution. People all lived in villages and rarely left their home village, if ever. Before that they were even smaller groups of tribes. They had little or no contact with other races and even tribes. There was contact, hence why there is the instinct, but not a lot of contact, hence the small strength of the instinct. The instinct was not prepared for the advent of modern transportation, urban living, multiracial nation states, and mass media race mixing brainwashing.
Your last paragraph contradicts itself, and also is incredibly wrong. The fact of interbreeding means nothing for race! Races are defined as being able to interbreed! Thus, the fact two races being able to and doing so in the wild does not mean they are the same race! Even for a species this is fuzzy. The polar bear and the grizzly bear are considered SEPARATE SPECIES, yet they still are able to interbreed, and fertile hybrids have been found in the wild (although incredibly rare).
If you are trying to say that a race is not an organism, but a species is; then that is ridiculous. Where is that stated? The definition of organism definitely does not say anything that would make a species any more of an organism than a race. A species is an organism, a race is an organism, and an individual is an organism. Yea, even the planet earth, is by definition, an organism.
Brainwashing that overrides this instinct.
White supremacist? Where in my comments attached to this article did I ever mention the superiority of any race? I suppose all tree huggers are tree supremacists as you seem to imply that the desire to preserve something is to believe that it is superior? Right, because it can't be anything about it simply being unique and worth preserving.
Your solution to just allow those with an agenda to genocide the White race to simply continue with their attempts unopposed seems quite silly to me.
That is not true at all, but it would get extremely off topic to get into the reasons right now.
True, but the fact that all races have this trait, as is demonstrated by countless studies, proves then that such a trait must increase the probability of survival as evolution has selected for it in all races.
It is pretty logical when you think about it. Anything that has the desire for self preservation is on average going to have a higher probability of survival than something that lacks such a desire.
"has the inherent ***instinct*** to prefer"
> Besides the many people on here who have pointed
> out that they don't prefer people of their own
> race...
Those people still have the instinct, they have just overridden it. I already explained that quite clearly in the posting you are replying to.
It obviously is. Both in the literal sense of one definition of Organism, and as a perfect metaphor with the other definition.
Organism is defined as either an individual made up of many organs, a living being, or a complex system of interdependent elements.
Thus, a race is an Organism, as it is a complex system in which the individuals of that race are the race's interdependent elements.
Also, in metaphor, the individual race can be seen as the individual, the individuals of that race being its organs.
It wasn't even redundant, as you stated a true fact, the possibility that his predicament is because he hates his parents.
It is a fact proved once again by a recent study - if you hate your same sex parent, generally because they were abusive, then you have a much higher chance of dating and liking people from a different race than that same sex parent is from.
You are not making any sense. Barak? Tiger? All mixed races. Is that so hard for you to understand? The highly mixed people are highly mixed, they are no longer of any one race. They are irrelevant to the discussion.
You also seem to highly overestimate the amount of mixing between races. If you look at the multitude of studies available, and they are getting better with the modern genetic technology we have now, you will see that there are still plenty of pure Europeans left. Just as are there pure Asians and pure Africans. These are the three major races, and the mixtures of them, like Arabs, do not change anything.
Even if every Mongoloid person was at least 1% Caucasian, would that mean that the Mongoloid people should just let their 99% distinctness become extinct? That is ridiculous. You are advocating genocide.
Go read this paper, it should help you in your confusion:
http://www.pubmedcentral.nih.gov/articlerender.fcgi?artid=139378
Also, wow, are you ever wrong about Arabs and Persian, so wrong in fact, that I will disregard anything further you have to say because it is all as based on ignorance as what you say of the Persian/Arab divide.
From the Commiepedia itself:
"Genetic studies conducted by Cavalli-Sforza have revealed that Iranians cluster closely with European groups and more distantly from Near Eastern groups. Preliminary genetic tests suggest common origins for most of the Iranian peoples. [44] This study is partially supported by another one, based on Y-Chromosome haplogroups.[45]
Basically, the findings of this study reveal many common genetic markers found among the Iranian peoples from the Tigris to the areas west of the Indus."
from: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iranian_peoples
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What you are missing is the fact of outbreeding depression. Outbreeding depression is actually worse than inbreeding depression. The effects of inbreeding depression also almost entirely disappear after a population size larger than 500, so much so that they are not statistically relevant. I already talked about this in a previous post.
This is to you and everyone who is bringing up the same thing about when I said "everyone prefers":
First off, I believe that most people, having had enough intelligence, and not having the aim to simply nit pick with anecdotal evidence, easily understood what I said to mean that "everyone has the inherent *instinct* to prefer".
Of course there are exceptions. There is probably one in a million who are defective due to random mutation, and thus do not have this instinct intact, and then there are those who are brainwashed to override said instinct using their mind. Just as one can resist the instinct to eat long enough to starve to death, one can override the instinct to preserve one's own race. People could also be overriding the instinct due to mental damage caused by life experiences other than brainwashing. For example, people who's same sex parents were abusive to them have a much higher chance of dating and liking people from a different race.
What you say is a load of pseudo-scientific egalitarian bullshit.
Modern science does recognize it. Richard Lewontin has been discredited, get over it already!
Here are some currently living, in this century, real biologists, and they agree with that race is a biological reality:
Categorization of humans in biomedical research: genes, race and disease
Neil Risch,Esteban Burchard,Elad Ziv,and Hua Tang
http://www.pubmedcentral.nih.gov/articlerender.fcgi?artid=139378
A race that evolved the tendency to preserve itself will be more preserved on average than races that do not have that tendency. That means that after many races coming and going and much time having passed, the most probable races to still exist are those that are inherently interested in their own racial preservation.
To not have instincts towards preservation is a recipe for extinction, no?
Ok.
First off, you speak of marriage, which a mistake as it causes an understatement of the statistics we are interested in. Unions producing children is what matter, and Marriages are a decreasing percent of such unions. With mixed race unions, marriage is even more rare.
Anyways, they are doing the best job they can in order to do this. It is hard work brainwashing people to go against their instincts, you must give them credit. They are more successful in some Countries (Britain - over 50% of black men and over 60% of black women have a white partner) than others (Germany).
Regardless, the amount you state, of 10%, is huge. It means extinction of distinctiveness in only a short period of time. At the least, it means we will be a minority in our own country in short time, at which time we will no longer have any real political power.
The continuum that he speaks of is due to the fact that the races diverged at different times, Europeans first, Asians next, and not as you thought (due to geographic proximity).
The existence of "Mixed-up" people does not preclude the existence of the distinct originals. The fact that there is a continuum of colors does not mean that there are no colors that are distinct. Red is distinct from green, despite the existence of yellow.
Iran's population is made up of approximately 51% Persians, only a very low amount of Arabs (approximately 2%). Persians actually do look quite different from Arabs, but then again, looks is only one of the many /possible/ difference between races. Anyways, both of those sub-races are of the Mongoloid race (ie. Asian) with varying degrees of Negroid admixture.
Since it was prohibited I mean. It was obviously usurped before 1967.
Yea, so? Obviously the government has been usurped since then.
He is hated as much as any who point out such politically incorrect facts.
The fact is that the scientific community accepts race as a biological reality, except for those who have an agenda to hide the reality. Also, the undeniability of this fact, that of race being a biological reality, is becoming much stronger much faster in recent years. Basically, ever since the fact that many drugs work for some races but not others became widely known, no one seriously denies that race is a biological reality.
The fact that you still believe the old fallacy which is no longer able to be supported simply shows you are behind the times. This is not your fault though, as the media and schools are those doing the brainwashing, and thus they do not report on such information which would make their attempts to brainwash harder.
Race is more than just skin color, lol.
http://www.theoryofuniverse.com/man/races/races-skulls.htm