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Re:Only if you are a fascist
Flash mobs only pose a security risk if you are a fascist. I think with the advent of the cell phone and text messaging, the possibility of a coup d'etat in the developed world is slim to none. Before any would be junta could consolidate power there would be protests in the street, largely due to cell phones and text messaging. I think this a good thing. It safeguards our freedoms and if a few celebrities have to put up with mobs of teenage girls, then so be it.
Remember the 1991 August Coup in Mocba, where communists attempted to oust Yeltsin from power an put back the communists in power?
Ultimately it was defeated by people who phoned each other to assiege the russian parliament buildings.
About that coup, General Wojciech Jaruzelski (who declared martial law in Poland in 1981) said in an interview to the french weekly Le Nouvel Observateur that the would be putshists were amateurs, because the first thing I would have done was to cut all communications... -
Re:Is Thomas Friedman a simplistic hack? * YES *RobertFisher: "my original comment applied to his book... not his reporting."
Doesn't matter. Friedman is a working journalist employed by a prominent, mainstream news organization. Bias matters, whether it's in his books, columns, speaking engagements or anywhere else in the public sphere. You can't cherry-pick, then turn around and honestly claim he isn't biased.
You seem to misunderstand the definition of the word "reporting" as it's used by journalists. As they use it, reporting is a process. Whether it's for a news article, a column, an editorial, or even a book, reporting is the process they go through to collect and balance information so they can present it to an audience.
RobertFisher: A good op-ed column should generate thought-provoking discussion and debate, which (as evident from the discussion in this thread and by your own account) is precisely what Friedman's column is doing.
I guess you missed the major points of my post, which I prominently summarized so there would be no confusion. Here they are again:
A good journalist:
- Gets his facts right.
- Gets her facts right.
- Gets facts right.
- Gets good, knowledgeable sources.
- Writes well.
To be unambiguously clear, my previous post is concerned with facts and their accuracy. That is the most fundamental aspect of good journalism, again, whether it's for a news article, a column, an editorial, or even a book. Anyone who doesn't meet this basic standard is, by definition, a hack.
Any hack who makes facile arguments based on gross oversimplifications, errors, inaccuracies or misrepresentations is, by definition, a simplistic hack.
It's a given that a good column should generate discussion and debate. But the assumption is that the debate is about the substantive elements of the column -- arguments based on accurate facts.
The Friedman column in question is riddled with inaccuracies and obtuse claims. The discussion and debate surrounding it is not about the ideas expressed, it's about the lack of factual accuracy and the claims he then makes.
By any measure, it's not a good column.
I also did not say that a news article "should not generate controversy," as you wrote. I completely disagree with you. Some of the best news stories generate controversy. The Watergate scandal is one example. The Kuwait baby incubator story from Gulf War I is another. A lot of award-winning stories are ones that generate controversy.
RobertFisher: "Apparently the people who hand out Pulitzers (who should know a thing or two more about journalism than you) seemed to agree that Friedman's news reporting set the standards for oustanding journalism on two separate occassions."
I think the Pulitzer committee should know more about journalism than any single individual, too. But they've been known to give Pulitzers to people who didn't deserve them. One prominent example was Washington Post reporter Janet Cooke's 1981 Pulitzer for a fabricated story. She returned the prize.
Another example is the 1932 Pulitzer awarded to the New York Times' Walter Duranty for his reports from the Soviet Union. It's now known that he deliberately ignored the Ukrainian famine of the 1930s, and that his reports were outright propaganda for the Communists. Even the New York Times has distanced itself from Duranty's Pulitzer, yet the award remains unrevoked.
There's more on Cooke and Duranty in the Columbia Journalism Review.
Finally, why do you feel the need to resort to ad hominem attacks to build your case? I didn't attack you personally, so why do you impugn m
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Why reinvent the wheel when you don't need to?:80s.com. (Albeit, it's closed source.)
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Re:This is Obsurd
So is there a copy out there of the scripts? I'd happily set up a page with them on it, as should everyone else who thinks this is ridiculous. And do the same thing that the original dialectizer guy was doing, allow sites who complain to opt out. Then print their names on the front page as companies who have no tolerance for our brand of humor. As there would be hundreds of them out there I'm sure that legal departments would quickly find some other pastime.
BTW another nice one, like totally.