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Re:Disclosing your salary
In my contract it is forbidden that i discuss my salary with anybody, especially in public in connection with my employer.
Anyone can put an unenforceable clause in a Contract.
The clause you mention sounds quite illegal. If in the US, it certainly is (see NRLA). IANAL
My many European friends frequently express dismay at Americans' weird urge to hide their salary. In much of Europe, everybody knows. If an American works for the State of California, everybody knows, by law; just visit the website. I myself have experienced a very similar Retaliation, which is why I am nominally familiar with the law in the area.
So, I once noted to my managers at The Aerospace Corporation (in El Segundo, CA) that my salary was incommensurate with my experience level. The response? "That's unethical [to know someone else's salary]." My reply, "I did two hours' work on a project for a junior staff member. He reverse-calculated my salary from his monthly budget report, and then threw it in my face (rather than saying 'Thank you for charging only two hours to solve my otherwise-intractable problem'). I did not pry."
And yet, my managers at The Aerospace Corporation (in El Segundo, CA) Retaliated against me for the complaint, rather 'having a talk' with the jerk who I had helped.
Well, of course, within a day or two, I used my data-analysis skills to reverse-calculate everyone's salary who had worked on my own projects – which were many – because customers loved me for always delivering—I had to farm stuff out to spend my budgets out by fiscal EOY. It's called good Project Management. Or, to the managers at The Aerospace Corporation (in El Segundo, CA), it is called punishing an over-performer due to envy of that staff-members early and dramatic success in bringing in money.
/RantOffI used to help with business development - writing technical responses to RFPs on government contracts. When the RFP was done they would give me the entire document to proof. This included the schedule estimates, cost estimates, etc. We had to submit the hourly bill rate for every employee that might look at that contract. Based on that info and the billing method used for that contract, I could calculate the rates of nearly every employee in the company from CEO all the way down to the lowest billable employee. I was just a lowly engineer with many people between myself and the CEO. Everyone knew I had access to that information. But I never used that information to complain to the company, even when I disagreed with the salary that some people were being paid. That's just playing with fire. But it does come in handy when you're negotiating your salary for another job.
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Re:Disclosing your salary
In my contract it is forbidden that i discuss my salary with anybody, especially in public in connection with my employer.
Anyone can put an unenforceable clause in a Contract.
The clause you mention sounds quite illegal. If in the US, it certainly is (see NRLA). IANAL
My many European friends frequently express dismay at Americans' weird urge to hide their salary. In much of Europe, everybody knows. If an American works for the State of California, everybody knows, by law; just visit the website. I myself have experienced a very similar Retaliation, which is why I am nominally familiar with the law in the area.
So, I once noted to my managers at The Aerospace Corporation (in El Segundo, CA) that my salary was incommensurate with my experience level. The response? "That's unethical [to know someone else's salary]." My reply, "I did two hours' work on a project for a junior staff member. He reverse-calculated my salary from his monthly budget report, and then threw it in my face (rather than saying 'Thank you for charging only two hours to solve my otherwise-intractable problem'). I did not pry."
And yet, my managers at The Aerospace Corporation (in El Segundo, CA) Retaliated against me for the complaint, rather 'having a talk' with the jerk who I had helped.
Well, of course, within a day or two, I used my data-analysis skills to reverse-calculate everyone's salary who had worked on my own projects – which were many – because customers loved me for always delivering—I had to farm stuff out to spend my budgets out by fiscal EOY. It's called good Project Management. Or, to the managers at The Aerospace Corporation (in El Segundo, CA), it is called punishing an over-performer due to envy of that staff-members early and dramatic success in bringing in money.
/RantOffI used to help with business development - writing technical responses to RFPs on government contracts. When the RFP was done they would give me the entire document to proof. This included the schedule estimates, cost estimates, etc. We had to submit the hourly bill rate for every employee that might look at that contract. Based on that info and the billing method used for that contract, I could calculate the rates of nearly every employee in the company from CEO all the way down to the lowest billable employee. I was just a lowly engineer with many people between myself and the CEO. Everyone knew I had access to that information. But I never used that information to complain to the company, even when I disagreed with the salary that some people were being paid. That's just playing with fire. But it does come in handy when you're negotiating your salary for another job.
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Re:Disclosing your salary
In my contract it is forbidden that i discuss my salary with anybody, especially in public in connection with my employer.
Anyone can put an unenforceable clause in a Contract.
The clause you mention sounds quite illegal. If in the US, it certainly is (see NRLA). IANAL
My many European friends frequently express dismay at Americans' weird urge to hide their salary. In much of Europe, everybody knows. If an American works for the State of California, everybody knows, by law; just visit the website. I myself have experienced a very similar Retaliation, which is why I am nominally familiar with the law in the area.
So, I once noted to my managers at The Aerospace Corporation (in El Segundo, CA) that my salary was incommensurate with my experience level. The response? "That's unethical [to know someone else's salary]." My reply, "I did two hours' work on a project for a junior staff member. He reverse-calculated my salary from his monthly budget report, and then threw it in my face (rather than saying 'Thank you for charging only two hours to solve my otherwise-intractable problem'). I did not pry."
And yet, my managers at The Aerospace Corporation (in El Segundo, CA) Retaliated against me for the complaint, rather 'having a talk' with the jerk who I had helped.
Well, of course, within a day or two, I used my data-analysis skills to reverse-calculate everyone's salary who had worked on my own projects – which were many – because customers loved me for always delivering—I had to farm stuff out to spend my budgets out by fiscal EOY. It's called good Project Management. Or, to the managers at The Aerospace Corporation (in El Segundo, CA), it is called punishing an over-performer due to envy of that staff-members early and dramatic success in bringing in money.
/RantOffI used to help with business development - writing technical responses to RFPs on government contracts. When the RFP was done they would give me the entire document to proof. This included the schedule estimates, cost estimates, etc. We had to submit the hourly bill rate for every employee that might look at that contract. Based on that info and the billing method used for that contract, I could calculate the rates of nearly every employee in the company from CEO all the way down to the lowest billable employee. I was just a lowly engineer with many people between myself and the CEO. Everyone knew I had access to that information. But I never used that information to complain to the company, even when I disagreed with the salary that some people were being paid. That's just playing with fire. But it does come in handy when you're negotiating your salary for another job.
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Re:Disclosing your salary
In my contract it is forbidden that i discuss my salary with anybody, especially in public in connection with my employer.
Anyone can put an unenforceable clause in a Contract.
The clause you mention sounds quite illegal. If in the US, it certainly is (see NRLA). IANAL
My many European friends frequently express dismay at Americans' weird urge to hide their salary. In much of Europe, everybody knows. If an American works for the State of California, everybody knows, by law; just visit the website. I myself have experienced a very similar Retaliation, which is why I am nominally familiar with the law in the area.
So, I once noted to my managers at The Aerospace Corporation (in El Segundo, CA) that my salary was incommensurate with my experience level. The response? "That's unethical [to know someone else's salary]." My reply, "I did two hours' work on a project for a junior staff member. He reverse-calculated my salary from his monthly budget report, and then threw it in my face (rather than saying 'Thank you for charging only two hours to solve my otherwise-intractable problem'). I did not pry."
And yet, my managers at The Aerospace Corporation (in El Segundo, CA) Retaliated against me for the complaint, rather 'having a talk' with the jerk who I had helped.
Well, of course, within a day or two, I used my data-analysis skills to reverse-calculate everyone's salary who had worked on my own projects – which were many – because customers loved me for always delivering—I had to farm stuff out to spend my budgets out by fiscal EOY. It's called good Project Management. Or, to the managers at The Aerospace Corporation (in El Segundo, CA), it is called punishing an over-performer due to envy of that staff-members early and dramatic success in bringing in money.
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Re:Disclosing your salary
In my contract it is forbidden that i discuss my salary with anybody, especially in public in connection with my employer.
Anyone can put an unenforceable clause in a Contract.
The clause you mention sounds quite illegal. If in the US, it certainly is (see NRLA). IANAL
My many European friends frequently express dismay at Americans' weird urge to hide their salary. In much of Europe, everybody knows. If an American works for the State of California, everybody knows, by law; just visit the website. I myself have experienced a very similar Retaliation, which is why I am nominally familiar with the law in the area.
So, I once noted to my managers at The Aerospace Corporation (in El Segundo, CA) that my salary was incommensurate with my experience level. The response? "That's unethical [to know someone else's salary]." My reply, "I did two hours' work on a project for a junior staff member. He reverse-calculated my salary from his monthly budget report, and then threw it in my face (rather than saying 'Thank you for charging only two hours to solve my otherwise-intractable problem'). I did not pry."
And yet, my managers at The Aerospace Corporation (in El Segundo, CA) Retaliated against me for the complaint, rather 'having a talk' with the jerk who I had helped.
Well, of course, within a day or two, I used my data-analysis skills to reverse-calculate everyone's salary who had worked on my own projects – which were many – because customers loved me for always delivering—I had to farm stuff out to spend my budgets out by fiscal EOY. It's called good Project Management. Or, to the managers at The Aerospace Corporation (in El Segundo, CA), it is called punishing an over-performer due to envy of that staff-members early and dramatic success in bringing in money.
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Re:Disclosing your salary
In my contract it is forbidden that i discuss my salary with anybody, especially in public in connection with my employer.
Anyone can put an unenforceable clause in a Contract.
The clause you mention sounds quite illegal. If in the US, it certainly is (see NRLA). IANAL
My many European friends frequently express dismay at Americans' weird urge to hide their salary. In much of Europe, everybody knows. If an American works for the State of California, everybody knows, by law; just visit the website. I myself have experienced a very similar Retaliation, which is why I am nominally familiar with the law in the area.
So, I once noted to my managers at The Aerospace Corporation (in El Segundo, CA) that my salary was incommensurate with my experience level. The response? "That's unethical [to know someone else's salary]." My reply, "I did two hours' work on a project for a junior staff member. He reverse-calculated my salary from his monthly budget report, and then threw it in my face (rather than saying 'Thank you for charging only two hours to solve my otherwise-intractable problem'). I did not pry."
And yet, my managers at The Aerospace Corporation (in El Segundo, CA) Retaliated against me for the complaint, rather 'having a talk' with the jerk who I had helped.
Well, of course, within a day or two, I used my data-analysis skills to reverse-calculate everyone's salary who had worked on my own projects – which were many – because customers loved me for always delivering—I had to farm stuff out to spend my budgets out by fiscal EOY. It's called good Project Management. Or, to the managers at The Aerospace Corporation (in El Segundo, CA), it is called punishing an over-performer due to envy of that staff-members early and dramatic success in bringing in money.
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Space debris are watched and known.
Their atmospheric entry is expected and recorded.
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Re:Nice to see, but not really revolutionary
SpaceX built what they wanted without NASA or DoD people sticking their noses in.
Mod parent up. There is a huge infrastructure of NASA and DOD folks whose job it is to stick their noses in. They are expensive, their cost comes out of your budget, and they cause huge delays in your program. SpaceX is a brilliant idea in that it keeps those expensive noses out of most things.
There are places for those noses, like launch safety and docking, where there can be risk to citizens or government equipment (the space station). But, many times, those noses simply waste money assuring 100-percent space mission success.