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Re:Pricewatch.com has...
NO Alpha ATX mobos, CPUs
I am unfamiliar with how pricewatch.com works, but there is a very nice list of Alpha vendors/resellers at Alpha Linux Organization.
Now I don't know what more you want?
LONG LIVE ALPHA! -
Linux/Alpha ResourcesHiho,
Just a couple of places you can get info, in case you are interested in getting one of these Multias and putting Linux on it.
http://www.alphalinux.org has lots of great Alpha and Linux/Alpha docs, news, and links.
The Linux/Alpha mailing list hosted by Redhat is an excellent source of information, too - go to http://www.lib.uaa.alaska.edu/axp-list/ for a searchable index.
AlphaPowered,
Craig -
Wanna learn more?
--Peter
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Re:Proof of one thing...When I installed Debian on a Digital UDB, I had no big problems. I simply read the documentation at http://www.alphalinux.org/, the Red Hat install docs as well as the Debian docs. I read all the Alpha-related documentation and notes I could find. I made my boot floppies, used a SCSI Zip drive as my base media, booted into SRM: "boot dva0" and I was off.
And for MILO... The MILO HOWTO gave me plenty of information. MILO works quite logically--you can ls devices, and boot any old file you find, passing kernel parameters like usual. Typing "help", I would hope, would be enough information to at least boot up a kernel.
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Re:Proof of one thing...When I installed Debian on a Digital UDB, I had no big problems. I simply read the documentation at http://www.alphalinux.org/, the Red Hat install docs as well as the Debian docs. I read all the Alpha-related documentation and notes I could find. I made my boot floppies, used a SCSI Zip drive as my base media, booted into SRM: "boot dva0" and I was off.
And for MILO... The MILO HOWTO gave me plenty of information. MILO works quite logically--you can ls devices, and boot any old file you find, passing kernel parameters like usual. Typing "help", I would hope, would be enough information to at least boot up a kernel.
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Hardware kiddie, thanks, but not impressed.
That's nice, and the makers of "The Matrix" should have waited for the new compilers or written them themselves?
even though ecgs isn't as optimised as DU cc, Alpha binaries it creates will still be 1.5x+ faster than a same generation P11.
"The Matrix" is already a reality, in business you just can't wait.
and when was the alpha cluster used for titanic a reality? when was the avalon cluster a reality?
Perhaps the performance gain isn't "measly" but it just can NOT compete price/preformance ratio
rubbish. you can buy 533MHz Alpha's for the price of a P11 300MHz. You can buy 600MHz alpha's
for less than the price of a P111-500. Both of them kick Pentium11's into park when it comes to floating point. a 533MHz alpha has nearly double the floating point power of a p11-450.
Sure alpha is faster and really cool, but when people are concerned about price and performance.
An Alpha 533MHz and motherboard with onboard network and scsi costs approx £600. (~$900) which is comparable to the cost of a p111 500 and motherboard. plus most 533mhz alphas will clock to at least 600mhz reliably (i'm told).
the only excuse for going with a high-end p11 setup instead of alpha is ignorance.
you can't beat cheap intel hardware for clustering, get over it.
you clearly havn't checked out prices. go to the alphalinux site and follow the links to the vendors, and ask them for quotes. I think you'll be surprised. -
The Sky is FallingHere are a few disorganized points...
- Under Pfeiffer's tenure at Compaq:
(and since the DEC acquisition)- A DS20(DP264) was donated to Linus Torvalds.
- An AS1200 was donated to ALO
- Compaq released ("free") fast-math libraries for AlphaLinux, along with plans for optimized compilers.
- Almost every (new) document about Compaq/Alpha mentioned linux (ie: "New for Tru64 and Linux".)
- Compaq announced product lines targeted at the Linux-market (DS10).
- Summary: There was never that level of linux-committment from Intel. Go to IBM's site, and they'll tell you that Linux is the perfect-fit for low-end/low-demand systems, in stark contrast with AIX.
- Alpha: Lets pretend it doesn't exist
- Even the "old"(21164) Alpha's beat new Intel's in integer perf. Comparing fp-perfs isn't even fair.
- 21164's also easily beat the other "best-of-breed" (Sparc/Mips) in both integer and fp, as well as having a dramatically lower unit cost.
- 21264 (new+expensive) offers significantly better performance than any other cpu, while remaining price-competitive with Sparc/Mips.
- Microsoft (non_intel==fringe)
People thinking within the mainstream is a critical element to MS's success. As soon as a consumer's mind wanders outside the NT/Intel sandtrap (even into NT/Alpha), who knows where it might go next? No wonder MS ignored the Alpha. - Summary: Alpha has been the enemy of the computer industry giants since inception.
- Under Pfeiffer's tenure at Compaq:
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No Netscape for Alpha
"How come I'm reading your message in Navigator 4.5 on Alpha Linux?"
How come it freezes on me after an average of about 1 minute? (Yes, I followed the FAQ at AlphaLinux to the letter.) -
No Netscape for Alpha
"How come I'm reading your message in Navigator 4.5 on Alpha Linux?"
How come it freezes on me after an average of about 1 minute? (Yes, I followed the FAQ at AlphaLinux to the letter.)