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Deaths "in custody" (yes, I'm warping the meaning of your words) is a serious problem for US detainees as well...

Considering the people who have been picked up, beaten, and killed in custody after officials objected to their internet activities, a few blogs getting blocked seems almost quaint. Deaths in custody are serious problem for Chinese detainees. The real problem of course is not usage of the internet but the expression of "subversive" thoughts and ideas.

A Harvard project has been studying the pattern of official site blocking, up until the Chinese gov't figured out a way to block them.

The U.S. does not seem to have a focused policy in surprise, and for many years our presidents have been reluctant to comment on human rights abroad in our political or economic allies. I think President Carter, whatever his merits of demerits, who was the last one willing to make a stink about it.

The US press is strangely silent on this issue. Perhaps they're puppets of the Bush Regime. So enlighten me. Can you name one person executed in the US under the age of 18 in the past fifty years?

Here's a couple of references for you.

http://www.abc.net.au/7.30/s264021.htm

http://www.ncadp.org/html/juvenile_case_-_10_20.ht ml

And a quote from http://www.amnestyusa.org/news/1998/25109298.htm

The USA has executed nine juvenile offenders since 1990, half the known world total in the same period. The other nine executions were carried out in five countries -- Iran, Nigeria, Pakistan, Saudi Arabia and Yemen. Over 70 prisoners remain on death row in the USA for crimes committed when they were 16 or 17 years old.

Maybe you should be asking why the US press is so quiet. Most of the results a quick Google search turned up are from Australian sites.

Amnesty should be charged for whatever fees are associated with the case for wasting tax payer dollars. Amnesty International is not funded by any government whatsoever. And Amnesty has blamed the Chinese government, read the report at Amnesty's web site.

http://www.amnestyusa.org/abolish/innocence.html

No you didn't, "slick".

The My Lai massacre was orchestrated by people who gave the same "oath" you did, the people in charge of murdering hundreds of civilians -- including children -- also called themselves "professionals".

The systematic torture practiced by Green Berets in Vietnam was also by design of people under oath who called themselves "professionals".

These were clearly crimes against humanity, yet these "professionals" were never charged or punished for their actions.

The quality of people have not changed in the US army one bit. People such as Colin Powell participated both wars. Colin Powell himself was assigned to investigate the My Lai massacre and dismissed it.

I don't think the United States military has changed one bit.

You'll notice that the type of things that happened in Vietnam did not happen in the Gulf War.

Gulf War lasted how long? 42 days?

It's amazing what you can do with quality people and a little feedback, no?

I doubt it has anything to do with the "quality" of the paid murderers who participated.

There are criminals in the military just like there are criminals in all walks of life.

There sure are. And the US military accepts the actions of these criminals. They in fact encourage the criminal actions.

Or are all hackers really crackers?

No. But all crackers are held responsible for their actions when caught. US tries really hard to make sure their own soldier will never be charged for the murders they commit.

"I disagree with what you say, but will defend to the death your right to say it."

You're not defending my right to say anything. You're thinking way too much of yourself.

However, assuming people guilty until proven innocent reflects poorly on your character.

Look, it goes like this: the crimes are obvious, they are public, nobody gets put in jail.

US military is an organization practicing organized form of crime, accepted and approved by the US government. People taking part of these murders are nothing but paid murderers, they deserve no respect nor should any be given to them.

You may think the rest of the world has forgotten the crimes the organization you represent has committed. We have not. When you are representing yourself as a member of the organization ("a professional" murderer as you like to call yourself) don't except people to assume anything other about yourself than what they assume about this organization. You're their spawn, their henchman, and you willingly follow what they tell you regardless of the overwhelming evidence that proves they're criminals.

You must be living in a fantasy world, or are just being fucking naive.

There's a reason why the US wants to exempt its citizens from international justice system. The crimes committed by the US military forces are plentiful, yet there seems very little accountability to be going on in the US.

Given the amount of oil the US imports from Saudi Arabia, it sounds like a good argument could be made for enforcing Saudi laws in the USA. We should expect US citizens to now face lengthy jail terms for possessing copies of Sports Illustrated's swimsuit edition, for possessing and consuming fermented beverages, etc. And don't forget the public executions for things like adultery.

If we can tell other countries what their laws must be regarding software, then they can expect us to enforce their laws about equally important moral sanctions.

Fair's fair, right?

But ofcourse, one must judge yourself before [2] one can judge others.

But ofcourse, one must judge yourself before [2] one can judge others.

But ofcourse, one must judge yourself before [2] one can judge others.

While technology and the availability of information are critical to any form of warfare, this is not to argue that greater access to information will lead to greater horrors. The killings in Rawanda were coordinated over AM/FM radio and carried out with machetes. And the mass killings in yugoslavia were coordinated by radio and paper orders. Neither of these represents any sort of breakthrough in the availability of information.

And yet there are innovative uses of information technology that are fighting to make the world a better place. Amnesty International's Fast Action Stops Torture(usa) or Stamp Out Torture(international) campaigns tie together pagers, cell phones, and your email to create a network of activists that can bring international pressure in a fraction of the time or cost of traditional media.

Failure to understand or engage "your enemy" will not lead to a safer world. It will lead to a world of victims who could have seen the horror coming and acted to stop it.

Life without parole would be an equally good safety measure, and it avoids the small drawback of killing innocent people.

Given the treatment of "hackers" in the US media, we should be almost as worried about unjust ramrod prosecutions as underprivileged murder suspects are now.

Uh oh, my SpiderKatz Sense is tingling. Jon could easily turn this topic into another epic, so I better stop now...

It is obvious from your mis-guided rant that you understand neither communism, socialism, or European politics (at either the continental or country scale).

On the point of ``mass executions'', perhaps you could compare the use and abuse of the death penalty in the U.S.A. with that in European countries.

The use of Trolls in such countries has not been investigated, so I shall waste no further time in replying to this one :)

Steve

If you want an opinion on that - http://www.amnestyusa.org/rightsf orall/index.html.

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