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Re:Smoothwall & GPL
I have also evaluated smoothwall, and while reading up about it noticed the "attitude" to the GPL so looked carefully at the licensing for all parts of the distro as they are very pushy about their rights to do what they like with code they have written (which I fully support).
However the version I looked at (0.9.9) includes a java ssh terminal (MindTerm) that is a commerial product that is "Free for non commerial personal use and may be included with other products so long as the different license is drawn attention to" to paraphrase this license agreement. I saw no sign of this.
I am posting this anonymously and I haven't rasied this elsewhere as the attitude of the developers to these sorts of questions is well known and I don't really have the time for that.
How this applies to their commerial support offerings I'm not sure either. -
Re:Smoothwall & GPL
I have also evaluated smoothwall, and while reading up about it noticed the "attitude" to the GPL so looked carefully at the licensing for all parts of the distro as they are very pushy about their rights to do what they like with code they have written (which I fully support).
However the version I looked at (0.9.9) includes a java ssh terminal (MindTerm) that is a commerial product that is "Free for non commerial personal use and may be included with other products so long as the different license is drawn attention to" to paraphrase this license agreement. I saw no sign of this.
I am posting this anonymously and I haven't rasied this elsewhere as the attitude of the developers to these sorts of questions is well known and I don't really have the time for that.
How this applies to their commerial support offerings I'm not sure either. -
Re:When can we banish Telnet forever?
It's not GPL'd at all. It used to be. It's now 'free for non-commercial use'. See their licensing information.
However, have a look at my journal for some other similar packages, one of which is a fork of the original GPL'd Mindterm. -
Re:When can we banish Telnet forever?Here at cs.hmc.edu we do just that. No telnet. Period. If you consider doing this to your system, I'd suggest making MindTerm available. It's a GPLed Java SSH terminal. With that, nobody can have any excuses.
--Ben
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Re:Securing OpenSSHMindterm is an SSH client written in Java.
You can have a machine serve Mindterm via a Java applet and you don't have to carry an SSH client around with you to connect to that machine. Tres convienent. The source is available but the license is less than ideal -- free for non-commercial, not free otherwise.
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gnu httptunnel vs. Mindterm (Re:SSH over HTTP)
Mindterm looks interesting, but the GNU httptunnel application (here is another link) mentioned in another post will do roughly the same thing, and you can easily use ssh over httptunnel to tunnel other protocols.
Better yet, unlike Mindbright's applet, httptunnel is free software (GPL). Mindbright's applet does sound like it has some nice bell's and whistles, though. Probably worth paying for if you were going to roll SSS over HTTP out as a solution to a larger group of users. (using ssh over httptunnel works great, but it can be a little confusing to set up the first time.) Otherwise, try httptunnel instead.
BlueCollarTech.com -
SSH over HTTPI use MindBright's ssh applet to proxy SSH over HTTP. Once that's done, anything can be tunneled.
Joe
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Re:Cygwin!
Grab the sshd server, run a simple httpd server, and use mindterm in java applet mode. Works for me.
There is also the older mindterm under the GPL if you aren't "non-comercial."
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Re:Cygwin!
Grab the sshd server, run a simple httpd server, and use mindterm in java applet mode. Works for me.
There is also the older mindterm under the GPL if you aren't "non-comercial."