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i find strange noone has provided the URL of the book, it's http://www.cryptonomicon.com/
also you can read the beginning_print here
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http://www.beroute.tzo.com

Try Beos.com, It looks like they moved their site without telling anyone.

The Gimp = http://www.beos.com/press/pressreleases/99-06-22_e ventloop.html

Civilization: Call to Power = http://www.beos.com/press/pressreleases/99-06-22_w ildcard.html

Low cost Be system = http://www.beos.com/press/pressreleases/99-06-22_i DOT.html

Try Beos.com, It looks like they moved their site without telling anyone.

The Gimp = http://www.beos.com/press/pressreleases/99-06-22_e ventloop.html

Civilization: Call to Power = http://www.beos.com/press/pressreleases/99-06-22_w ildcard.html

Low cost Be system = http://www.beos.com/press/pressreleases/99-06-22_i DOT.html

Well, it looks as if old Slashdot really drives traffic. I've visited be.com a number of times and never had problems, but it seems to be rather dead right now...

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Here is a press release stating that bryce4 for BeOS will be out by the end of the year! They are getting slashdotted right now tho :) QuakeII & III have already been ported (they're using QIII on a dual pentium as a demo at PC Expo right now & apparently its impressing the heck out of people who see it :)

Here Be answers the question about multiusers...basically, "Yes" and "No". Granted, this is pretty old too.

Antiword port for BeOS converts Microsoft Word documents to text.

License: Freeware
Cost: 0
Source Available?: Yes

There are also more sophisticated commercial options on BeOS.

Satisfied?

Take a look at the freshly updated Hardware Compatibility List:
http://www-classi c.be.com/support/guides/beosreadylist_intel.html. There's *tons* of new supported hardware on it.

just click here
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The Intel comptaibility list has also been updated : http://www-classi c.be.com/support/guides/beosreadylist_intel.html
Will allow many more users to use it. Bad thing is nothing new on the PowerPC pages :-(
Btw The announce on Bedepot is preorder. The OS isn't ready Yet . The developers haven't been warned of anything Yet (maybe on the Beta list on which I ain't). So to say it is not released ! Ludo

Except there's one thing both the authors of that article and all of you forgot. There IS an OS out there that's built by a corporation, that's easy-to-use AND reliable, that's powerful AND cutting-edge without being arcane, that anyone could trust with confidence. That OS is called BeOS. It rarely crashes, is rock-solid, is so powerful that it makes Linux look weak in some areas, yet it's easy-to-use, easy to develop for, and the people that make it are really cool. Because this OS is so new, there aren't a lot of applications out for it yet, but that will change dramatically starting this summer with the rollout of BeOS R4.5. It suggest you all go to Be's Web site and check it out for yourself. See what a COOL corporation can produce. Not all companies are little Micro$ofts. :)

Regards,

Jared

Correction about BeOS:



Check the bottom of this page for supported hardware.



AC

BeOS, too. And other Unix clones too.

See this link for an official response.

... it is question whether Linux evolves as a better Unix or become another OS based on Unix. (like BeOS?)

Here's another link about your question.

BeOS, too. And other Unix clones too.

See this link for an official response.

... it is question whether Linux evolves as a better Unix or become another OS based on Unix. (like BeOS?)

Here's another link about your question.

Might I interject that Apple's primary product is not the Mac OS, but the hardware that it runs on? While MacOS 8.5 and previous versions are very sorry examples of OS design, MacOS X shows a lot of promise. As for "Mac people talking about how good their OS is", this article is written from the context of a Mac zealot...would you expect him to badmouth MacOS?

Also, there are alternative OS's for Macs, both 68k and PPC. Allow me to submit NetBSD, OpenBSD, BeOS, and LinuxPPC for consideration. My Mac Centris (old, I know) runs NetBSD and MacOS...the primary functions of MacOS are, 1. booting NetBSD, and 2. Downloading packages to my Newton MessagePad.

All in all, I found it a nice look into the mind of a Mac addict as he views the Linux phenomenon.

It's actually about a network where devices have access to the information they need when they need it, and the devices are not general-purpose computers with Red Hat Linux, a keyboard, and a 5-ton monitor attached. Take a look at the Ninja project at Berkeley. Think about what Sun's Jini was supposed to do.

They're selling CD players now that can hold more CDs than most people own. Why the hell should you have to remember that CD #241 is "Garbage / Version 2.0". Worse, what good is it if you have your entire music collection in a device and you still have to futz with it every half hour at a party to get a reasonable music rotation going?

Why, indeed, can't your CD changer be chatting with your home server which has a Net connection? It will pull down all the CDDB information ("ohhh, that's why they went proprietary") for your collection; you tell your system that you want the party to crescendo in music tone and pace over 5 hours, then decay over an hour while you shoo everybody out the door, then close with Elvis Costello to get the stragglers out. Some service like Firefly will take care of all the recommendations for you. Tell it you want "Queerest of the Queer" next song, and it will stick it into the rotation.

Why, some people here have once wondered, is the Palm Pilot such a big deal. Everyone wants Linux on a handheld, don't they? Have you seen 3com's plans for the Palm VII and the way it will communicate with Internet services like Yahoo News, e-trade stock quotes, and all that other stuff? What else are they doing, besides missing the XML boat?

They're turning it into an information appliance.

Why, you might wonder, is Intel talking with Ericsson about wireless data communications in the home?

They want to make information appliances.

Q: What is Lamar Pott's new job at Be?

A: Find out here. Hint: It contains the word Internet and appliance.

It's going to happen, and moreover, you want it to happen. At least I do. -Stephen van Egmond, svanegmond@home.com who forgot his slashdot ID.

No, it does work great. I run it at 16 _million_ colors at 1024x768. Nice try, though.

And I quote from Be:

ATI 3DRage II, 3DRage Pro, 3DRage Pro Turbo, 3DRage LT Pro chipset-based cards

Personally, I think Blender looks like a great product, and plan on trying it out. But, I don't think it's unreasonable for Be to require that 4.1 be released as a whole. It's not like Linus would have allowed some developer to stick parts of 2.1 into the 2.0 kernel and ship it because they just had to ship today, not in a few weeks.

I think a lot of people gripe at any opportunity they can at closed-source companies. To which my reply is, shut the fsck up and start coding! You want an open source system that has the cool features of the BeOS? Grab the API/documentation off of the web site and start writing one. Here, I'll make it easy for you: Archived Be Book

Hello all...

I summarized the sentiments that are being voiced here and wrote a respectful email to press@be.com asking if they would consider making an official response to the question "Why is the BeOS closed source?"

I really think they're a good company. They just don't yet understand why Open Source will ultimately be a Profitable Thing.

At any rate, we can hope for an "official company line" on Monday.

Well... in my Ideal World (tm), you'd have Be as the standard client OS and Linux as the server. I'll never own a Mac, but I do think that they, like Playstations and PDAs have a place in the market. It's similar with Be. What's *wonderful* about it is that it bridges a lot of the gap between a good consumer OS (as the Mac is, you have to give it that) and one capable of doing groovy stuff.

I really don't think that linux does that in quite the same way. Which is good, because that's what makes linux kick arse in the server area. It's unstoppable.

BeOS uses its own file system, called bfs. It's a 64-bit journaled fs, with a cool attribute and resource structure. As far as I know, it can't be read outside of BeOS, but that is probably not far out. According to Be's BeWare section this filesystem driver is available for ext2 read-only. The driver also has a homepage. There are several other filesystem drivers available in the BeWare section. The facility for creating plug-ins and add-ons both for an application and the operating system is *very* cool. Read up on the Be Book for more.

BeOS uses its own file system, called bfs. It's a 64-bit journaled fs, with a cool attribute and resource structure. As far as I know, it can't be read outside of BeOS, but that is probably not far out. According to Be's BeWare section this filesystem driver is available for ext2 read-only. The driver also has a homepage. There are several other filesystem drivers available in the BeWare section. The facility for creating plug-ins and add-ons both for an application and the operating system is *very* cool. Read up on the Be Book for more.

BeOS uses its own file system, called bfs. It's a 64-bit journaled fs, with a cool attribute and resource structure. As far as I know, it can't be read outside of BeOS, but that is probably not far out. According to Be's BeWare section this filesystem driver is available for ext2 read-only. The driver also has a homepage. There are several other filesystem drivers available in the BeWare section. The facility for creating plug-ins and add-ons both for an application and the operating system is *very* cool. Read up on the Be Book for more.

I guess my rant is this... is BeOS making this challenge to place itself in the same media hype that Linux is in or is it truely a challenge against Microsoft?!

It's truly a challenge to Microsoft. In the DOJ trial, Microsoft has consistently listed BeOS and Linux as competitors that could take the market away from Windows (and completely ignored the other OSes you listed). Gassee was a little upset at this - see his Another Bedtime Story article from the Be newsletter. I'll bet he's doing this to show that the BeOS and Linux can't compete with Microsoft, because even for free no OEM will preload either of them. And if one does bundle the BeOS, than it's to his benefit.

Colin

Posted by jonrx:

I have one BeBox at home, these things are as cool as cases get. Although they only have 2 external and 2-3 internal bays. -jon