Domain: bitmessage.org
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Re:First look at what EFF has to say.
Just to add to it - one that EFF hasn't listed is Bitmessage.
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Re:It isn't designed as an uncensorable platform
We have that; it's called XMPP.
... open standards ...XMPP is almost as centralized as Twitter. You still communicate through a server that can be shut down. The only difference is that, if you lose access to one server, you can switch to another server, or start your own if you have enough money. (The other difference is that XMPP is not a broadcast medium.)
A proper uncensorable platform would be peer-to-peer. That's where IPv4's lack of true end-to-end connectivity has irritated me for years. There are attempts to work around this problem using, for example, BitTorrent's distributed hash table protocol or Bitcoin's blockchain or both or Onion routing. The problem is that there is no money in a truly peer-to-peer communications system, so development has always been slower than centralized systems.
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Re:Here's what I'd say, and what YOU should say:
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Bitmessage?
How does this compare with https://bitmessage.org/ ?
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And this is why Schneier undid 10 years NSA work
And this is why Schneier undid 10 years NSA work on subverting encryption algorithms. Terrorists are a miniscule threat compared to our Governments and Secret Services
The US no longer has a legitimate "government (..) for the people." The UK never did, except occasionally by chance.
We know that power like this is abused and attracts those who will abuse it. We must consider whether we want our children to live in a free country.
"The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing."
We need to support projects like MailPile and BitMessage. Maybe some of you know of or are working on other projects you'd care to mention.
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It already exits and is free
Bitmessage: P2P, encrypted, anonymous. The project is pretty new, but other than a couple scalability issues, I think this project has major potential. http://bitmessage.org/
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Re:Simple option(s)...
I would recommend BitMessage. It is open source and peer2peer. Also the senderID and message are encrypted plus the receiver is completely unknowable. Also the BitMessage wiki has a pretty good breakdown of various other secure messaging services that are also available.
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Re:Encryption:
There are some candidate solutions to this problem. For instance bitmessage combines asymm encryption with a sort of giant glob of data, so you upload your encrypted email into the aggregate mass of data, and to receive emails, you download the entire glob and read the parts that you can decrypt. I'm being vague on the specifics here because I'm not a cryptographer (obviously).
It would be nice to have something comparable for generalized internet traffic, but the failings of the limit formulation are pretty clear – namely the prohibitive storage and bandwidth requirements. You'd basically be requiring everyone to keep a locally updated copy of the entire internets. But there are clever folks out there, and the solution has a nice intuitive appeal, so I wonder if there's a way to fragment this approach to mitigate the resource costs...
For example, you could randomly assign nodes to different globs. Members of those globs are responsible for maintaining their data and the data of all their co-globular compatriots. If the globs are large enough, then even using current protocols for inter-globular traffic, the person-to-person relationship networks would be very difficult to recover (I hesitate to say unrecoverable). -
Bitmessage
Anyone following such developments should look into bitmessage. An encrypted p2p messaging system that takes the complications out of using tools such as GPG.
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Decentralize Chat
From my perspective the biggest problem with chat is the requirement for a chat server. As long as everybody depends on some intermediary that intermediary has incentive to "wall in" users for monetization or just "customer acquisition." There are all kinds of other problems with centralized chat like the ability to keep records of who is talking to who. Even if the content of the messages is encrypted, the flow of messages is not.
I think there a couple of obscure setups like bitchat and bitmessage that seem to address those issues, but clients are not widely available.
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BitMessage