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Not forever. When updates stop, updates stop. There's a relatively short time when old OSs still get updates.

An up-to-date 10.10 Mac shows webkit version 600.5.17. A 10.6.8 Mac has 534.59.10. A 10.3.9 Mac has 312.9. (According to http://browserspy.dk/webkit.ph... ) Current webkit nightlies (.dmg) won't run on 10.6 or 10.8. MAYBE I could build from source, but a) I doubt it and b) effectively no one, anywhere, does that.

"So Tor has always had that problem, your messages travel the Internet, but the WWW refuses to give you service."

Wrong. Nothing prevents a Tor user from browsing through 1, 2, 3, or more web proxies which further prevents them from being spotted as a Tor user or a Tor user using just 1 proxy.

BrowserSpy has a nice proxy detection option. If you're going through Tor and then a web proxy, you can check proxy detection:

http://browserspy.dk/

No proxy is the best answer. Now you go find another web proxy, and another one and another one and just use them for a small window and never use them again. Mix it with loading a large website/image/download in the background.

Just don't do this with anything involving legal matters. Just if you're browsing say WalMart's site or something. ^_^

YES, IT IS POSSIBLE to obfuscate your online fingerprint into a chameleon-like polluting mess of data, but the "gurus" in this world who completely have a handle on the whole puzzle HAVE NO INTEREST in sharing every piece of the puzzle with you; it is in their interest to keep userland "fenced in" ....

Go to this website with your browser-----http://browserspy.dk/browser.php

All those result values are fingerprinting you (along with your IP address and MAC address) .
If you could make your browser randomly change EVERY ONE of those result values automatically at regular intervals, then you empower yourself with a chameleon-like internet fingerprint ....

BUT GUESS WHAT ... there is no Firefox addon or other browser plugin for doing this !!!!!
because, as I said before, the "gurus" in this world who completely have a handle on the whole puzzle HAVE NO INTEREST in sharing every piece of the puzzle with you; it is in their interest to keep userland "fenced in" ....

ALONG WITH THE ABOVE, you need to constantly inject customized "noise" (masses of text) into your web queries to mislead algorithms such as Google, NSA etc into making a customized profile of you.
This can be done in Firefox by using the addon 'TrackMeNot'-----http://www.cs.nyu.edu/trackmenot/

All I have described is intended to totally empower userland.....BUT THIS DOES NOT SUIT organizations, companies and people whose business depends on shit like this and breaks their pretty little javascript-laced umblical cords connected to you.

YES, IT IS POSSIBLE to obfuscate your online fingerprint into a chameleon-like polluting mess of data, but the "gurus" in this world who completely have a handle on the whole puzzle HAVE NO INTEREST in sharing every piece of the puzzle with you; it is in their interest to keep userland "fenced in" ....

Go to this website with your browser-----http://browserspy.dk/browser.php

All those result values are fingerprinting you (along with your IP address and MAC address) .
If you could make your browser randomly change EVERY ONE of those result values automatically at regular intervals, then you empower yourself with a chameleon-like internet fingerprint ....

BUT GUESS WHAT ... there is no Firefox addon or other browser plugin for doing this !!!!!
because, as I said before, the "gurus" in this world who completely have a handle on the whole puzzle HAVE NO INTEREST in sharing every piece of the puzzle with you; it is in their interest to keep userland "fenced in" ....

ALONG WITH THE ABOVE, you need to constantly inject customized "noise" (masses of text) into your web queries to mislead algorithms such as Google, NSA etc into making a customized profile of you.
This can be done in Firefox by using the addon 'TrackMeNot'-----http://www.cs.nyu.edu/trackmenot/

All I have described is intended to totally empower userland.....BUT THIS DOES NOT SUIT organizations, companies and people whose business depends on shit like this and breaks their pretty little javascript-laced umblical cords connected to you.

YES, IT IS POSSIBLE to obfuscate your online fingerprint into a chameleon-like polluting mess of data, but the "gurus" in this world who completely have a handle on the whole puzzle HAVE NO INTEREST in sharing every piece of the puzzle with you; it is in their interest to keep userland "fenced in" ....

Go to this website with your browser-----http://browserspy.dk/browser.php

All those result values are fingerprinting you (along with your IP address and MAC address) .
If you could make your browser randomly change EVERY ONE of those result values automatically at regular intervals, then you empower yourself with a chameleon-like internet fingerprint ....

BUT GUESS WHAT ... there is no Firefox addon or other browser plugin for doing this !!!!!
because, as I said before, the "gurus" in this world who completely have a handle on the whole puzzle HAVE NO INTEREST in sharing every piece of the puzzle with you; it is in their interest to keep userland "fenced in" ....

ALONG WITH THE ABOVE, you need to constantly inject customized "noise" (masses of text) into your web queries to mislead algorithms such as Google, NSA etc into making a customized profile of you.
This can be done in Firefox by using the addon 'TrackMeNot'-----http://www.cs.nyu.edu/trackmenot/

All I have described is intended to totally empower userland.....BUT THIS DOES NOT SUIT organizations, companies and people whose business depends on shit like this and breaks their pretty little javascript-laced umblical cords connected to you.

YES, IT IS POSSIBLE to obfuscate your online fingerprint into a chameleon-like polluting mess of data, but the "gurus" in this world who completely have a handle on the whole puzzle HAVE NO INTEREST in sharing every piece of the puzzle with you; it is in their interest to keep userland "fenced in" ....

Go to this website with your browser-----http://browserspy.dk/browser.php

All those result values are fingerprinting you (along with your IP address and MAC address) .
If you could make your browser randomly change EVERY ONE of those result values automatically at regular intervals, then you empower yourself with a chameleon-like internet fingerprint ....

BUT GUESS WHAT ... there is no Firefox addon or other browser plugin for doing this !!!!!
because, as I said before, the "gurus" in this world who completely have a handle on the whole puzzle HAVE NO INTEREST in sharing every piece of the puzzle with you; it is in their interest to keep userland "fenced in" ....

ALONG WITH THE ABOVE, you need to constantly inject customized "noise" (masses of text) into your web queries to mislead algorithms such as Google, NSA etc into making a customized profile of you.
This can be done in Firefox by using the addon 'TrackMeNot'-----http://www.cs.nyu.edu/trackmenot/

FINAL THOUGHTS:
All I have described is intended to totally empower userland.....BUT THIS DOES NOT SUIT organizations, companies and people whose business depends on shit like this and breaks their pretty little javascript-laced umblical cords connected to you.

when the locked-down computer/device prevents you from seeing them?

Not sure if that's what's going on here - but being plain-text does not necessarily mean readable. I don't know how to see/read cookies on my ebook reader, for example.

A good argument for knowing something about how your device works. I don't have an e-Reader, so don't know whether it's even possible to clear cookies (maybe they're needed to maintain access to purchased ebooks). Anyway, this whole rigmarole strongly reinforces Eben Moglen's recent suggestion. The spying behavior of locked-down devices is making his case very clearly.

On a PC (not yet locked-down by UEFI), it's not sufficient just to clear cookies and LSOs. We have Opera set to delete its entire cache as well when you exit, and the kids know to clear their browsing history regularly (curious how quickly they learned that one). Firefox is also set to clear its cache and browsing history automatically on exit. On Chromium and Chrome, it's necessary to manually clear the entire cache and browsing history.

FWIW, this site will tell you what can be discerned from your browser just visiting a page. It's likely to increase your paranoia level a bit, especially when this site tells you just how unique your browser is. Ours all appear to be unique, probably largely due to the installed fonts and plugins.

Has anyone else noticed the appalling sensationalism in headlines these days? Slashdot is in danger of becoming just another gutter-press gossip site.

What does multiple browsers help when you're browsing from the same IP address? I think Google's smart enough to figure that out.

Actually, our entire household browses from a single IP address. In that case, if we each used one unique browser (or mostly just that one) per user, the multiple browser approach would assist in differentiating people for advertising purposes. As it is, we each use any of 3 PCs which all run Xubuntu, but identifiably unique due to display resolutions, installed fonts, etc. Similarly, even the kids use two or more browsers each while my wife and I use three or four regularly, and everyone knows to clear their cookies after visiting any dodgy sites (cookies are generally cleaned on exit anyway). We probably present a difficult case for analysis, and don't get any particularly well-aimed "targeted" advertising.

BTW, it's interesting to see what your browser might reveal when your visit a site, even neglecting cookies. Quite often, your browser reveals enough to identify it uniquely.

and this is just part of the reason I use Ghostery and Noscript in Firefox. For the home network, my router includes a filtering proxy server as the gateway, thus as we become aware of the domains doing the most invasive tracking, I block them there. Seems to work quite well and the system I'm using for this is an old HP Pavilion based on a 700Mhz Celeron (P3 era) with 512 Ram. Hell power consumption is about the same as the last wireless router I'd bought while the performance is far better.

They still server side fingerprint you. Check out this site: http://browserspy.dk/ of what the browser still reveals about you. And if you ever log in to Gmail, G+, Youtube or Android market with same fingerprint.. Most people underestimate the extent and sophistication of the data mining from the big networks.

Also, not saying you are doing this but some people whitelist sites like fx Slashdot for scripts, check out the HTML here and search for Google..